Not to mention it might be nice to see some tools in person and be able to warranty stuff in a store.
Craftsman/Facom Tools
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ChevyEFI
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You're complaining of price, yet you would spend more to get a satin finish on an otherwise same wrench? Sure you would. Go price MAC, or import a set in Sidchrome.
AceofSpad3s
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I fail to see the point of this? The wrenches and the drive tools are made in Taiwan like Facom. They are industrial priced or higher (looking at drive tools) what's the point of the supposed US plant then, they are going to churn out cheap junk and have the premium line made in Taiwan? Bass ackward to me.
Qualitytools
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I stopped by a Lowes today but didn't see any V series, or anything resembling FACOM or USAG
nbpt100
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I have seen some tools on the internet branded Stanley/Facom. For what ever it is worth.
I ordered a set of Britool SAE wrenches and got Expert brand . They don't say Britool anywhere on them. They are the same as Facom/Expert and MAC/Expert. They are made in Taiwan and I'm sure they will work just fine. Just not as cool as my made in England ones.
the warranty would be much much easier to deal with in the us with craftsman then either facom or usag,
I welcome wider choices and more competition for the consumers dollar even if I never buy any of it.
To me the story is still the introduction of this line as they say they are going to produce some element of the brand here.
To me the story is still the introduction of this line as they say they are going to produce some element of the brand here.
neophyte
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The US production plant isn’t ready yet, or not fully operational.
If Stanley had the Craftsman name machined into the forging dies, then Stanley owns the dies, and can have the dies shipped anywhere they want to.
If the new production plant has forging capabilities, then Stanley can ship the dies to the US later on, and continue forgong the same wrenches, but in the USA.
The Facom wrenches in this style were first made in France,
then production shifted to Taiwan,
Then it spparently shifted back to France at some point( I think the wrenches might have also been made slightly thinner at that point,
I’m not sure were the current Facom and USAG version of these wrenches is currently made.
Stanley basically has a contract to supply tools to Lowes, or a contract to rent space on Lowes shelving to sell tools, and is trying to supply tools to sell.
They presumably want people to buy the tools.
They can’t supply enough USA made tools yet apparently, so they’re filling the space up with Taiwanese made tools so there are at least Craftsman branded tools on the shelves.
The Facom wrench design is probably because they’re trying to build up interest which isn’t quite there for the current offerings.
Lesserstore
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I saw on Craftsman's IG story that V series is only available online at lowes and in-store and online at Ace.
MJK
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That is the first legit reason I think I've ever had to buy tools at Ace. I want to see these in person before dropping that kind of coin.
Fedwrench
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I find the satin finish and the overall shape of the wrench beam appealing. However, I'm not sure about having the fixed boxed end as a six point. I often use that style of wrench more for deep access than torque, and a fixed six point boxed end may cause positioning issues for me. The thing that killed me from getting the metric set though, was that Craftsman skipped 15 & 18 mm sizesThat is the first legit reason I think I've ever had to buy tools at Ace. I want to see these in person before dropping that kind of coin.
I get that if you work only on Japanese cars, you don't need those sizes but, there are so many more vehicles that use 15 & 18 these days, it's stupid not to sell a set 10-19 mm without skips.nbpt100
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The skips are stupid! Disappointing and short sighted for this day and age. That alone is enough to keep many from buying it. I actually liked that the fixed end was 6 pt. I see the ratchet/flex end as good for access and lower torque applications but the fixed end is for damaged fasteners and high torque. I do see you point. Access may be a problem and for that 1 in a million 12 pt bolt. One size does not fit all.I find the satin finish and the overall shape of the wrench beam appealing. However, I'm not sure about having the fixed boxed end as a six point. I often use that style of wrench more for deep access than torque, and a fixed six point boxed end may cause positioning issues for me. The thing that killed me from getting the metric set though, was that Craftsman skipped 15 & 18 mm sizes
Craftsman has always had sets that skip sizes. It used to be you could buy a cheap set of Craftsman wrenches that skip sizes and then find out it cost about the same to buy the wrenches you needed to complete the set as what you payed for the set.
German Satin
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True enough. Didn't think about that.
German Satin
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More of an observation than a complaint. I know what your saying though.
MJK
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Model CMMT87410V
FYI, no Craftsman V Series was at my local Ace - which is generally very well stocked.
I wonder if there is a Facom version of this on Amazon.de
Dakotadadv8
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According to Lowes the Craftsman 3/8 6 pt deep sockets V series is made in the US. Other 1/2 drive V series items are not, made in China. For 8 to 19mm no skip set for $65, good price for US made. Could be a good primary or secondary set, especially for current CM owners. SBD could be on to something.
i would not take lowes word on where things are made especially if its not in the documentation at all IMHO, but i suppose its possible and thats the first stuff out of the texas plant
ultgar
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If an SBD tool has a battery, chances are they're using DeWalt. Lots of hybrid tool kits (Facom/DeWalt, USAG/DeWalt, etc) popping up these days.
