Craftsman Model # 101. 07413 lathe

[just_hillbilly]

Heavy Duty Metal Lathe - Model # 101. 07413, Serial # 12L. 040588, Comes with Tons of Extras: bits, lubers, chucks, tools, calipers, etc. Also comes with homemade heavy duty wood stand. Seller states works well. Power Cord Could be replaced. Overall Length of Machine is 57-1/2" Long

How much is this worth? How much would you pay ant auction?

I want a lathe that I can pass on to the next generation and I don't come accross them often.

Thanks for all your insight!! You guys Rock!!

 

[A_Pmech]

If you're looking for a nice machine in that floor space range, I would pass on the Atlas / Craftsman and look at the Clausing 5900 series. They're substantially more lathe than a Craftsman.

Regarding value, I'm not really certain on those machines. I can say that they tend to be a lot more valuable than I believe they should be.

 

[2oolhound]

I don't know the number codes but if it is a 12" swing which the "12L" may suggest, it's a decent lathe if it isn't wore out. One of those sold here at auction recently for over $1000 (point where I walked away) I may have bid $750 for it. I got my QC 54 atlas with 3 chucks on original stand for $325 which is a realistically decent price for these type lathes.

As A_Pmech says, for that kind of money you can get a much better machine. The appeal of the atlas/craftsman lathes I think is their lightness. A hobbyist can easily move it around and relocate it whereas the heavier units are a bit more of an event if you have to move them. The trade off is the heavier lathes can take deeper cuts and are more steady and smooth.

 

[justanengineer]

If you're looking for a nice machine in that floor space range, I would pass on the Atlas / Craftsman and look at the Clausing 5900 series. They're substantially more lathe than a Craftsman.

Regarding value, I'm not really certain on those machines. I can say that they tend to be a lot more valuable than I believe they should be.

+1. Cman machines are like the lil plastic and aluminum tablesaws, you can do good work with patience and care on them, or you can buy a Unisaw and really go to town. If it were me, Id heed the advice and find a small toolroom lathe, but to each their own.

Personally, I wouldnt want to go over ~$500 for that lathe if its got an ok-decent amount of tooling and is fairly nice. Realistically, the value is closer to $1k if the flat ways are nice and the machine is restored but who pays what things are worth?

 

[zkling]

Above three guys nailed about everything you need to know about them. I will just add a few things.

1.) Very hard to tell value without condition assessment aka pics.
1.5) Value is very location and thus audience dependent.
2.) You can pass anything to the next generation. Now if you plan on actually using the item then passing it to the next generation that is a bit different.
3.) Accessories (tooling) are what really make machine tools valuable. Lots of the accessories for that late are more collector status than user status.

If you just want to tinker and play around with a metal cutting lathe, go for it. If it is cheap enough for you. Buy it and learn on it, then get a larger lathe when the oppertuinity presents itself. On the other hand if you expect to produce a good number of parts, especially anything of good size/weight look for something larger. They are good machine, you just have to realize their capabilities and thus what they can and can't do. Without more info, that machine could go anywhere from $150-$1500 depending on the the criteria I mentioned above.

 

[TBone69]

Sounds like an Atlas/Craftsman 12" lathe.

Are you sure the part number isn't 101.07403? Some info in Vintagemachinery.org

http://www.vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=51&tab=4

 

[woody 73]

The above members nailed it for you, in my area of central,"Ahia" as they say small lathes go for big dollars; several reasons but being easy to move around your shop, having single phase power as opposed to three phase power, not taking up half of your man cave space, etc. all contribute to the making them expensive to own.

 

[just_hillbilly]

Thanks for the replies. Here is a go at some pics!!

 

[woody 73]

Here is a CL post for an atlas/craftsman lathe as I told you small =expensive in my area.

http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/4090545417.html

 

[tedsters]

Here is a CL post for an atlas/craftsman lathe as I told you small =expensive in my area.

http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/4090545417.html

that lathe would cost more then a $1,000 in Michigan for that size Craftsman lathe sell fast around here

 

[454ragtop]

Can't get too excited without a quick change gear box, don't see any change gears either. Might be a good starter lathe for $3-400, but you'd be happier in the long run with a better lathe with a quick change.
HTH, Jim

 

[justanengineer]

If it's not worth $1000 because it is lightweight/inferior/of limited use but you'd give $500 to have an inadequate tool, what do you plan to make with it that makes it worth $500 or anything at all?

Id make money with it. Ive bought/sold several small lathes and other machines after a quick cleanup, sometimes paint (depends on the machine), and mechanical repair. Machining new feedscrews and nuts to cleanup excess backlash, bushings in the drive and carriage to eliminate slop, and other lil things like oil cups and wicks along with cleaning out the oil galleries go a long way to make a rough machine into a smooth running, quiet one that will bring more.

Admittedly, I havent gotten into repairing ways yet and probably wouldnt on these small machines unless I was keeping it for myself, but Ive been studying hand scraping for awhile and will one day work up the time/energy/arm muscles to scrape in an entire machine.

 

[Tim338]

With it being an Atlas, no change gears, limited tooling I think $350 is top of the mark. Look for a South bend or a Logan they are 10x the machine for not much more money than the Atlas.

 

[rsanter]

Here is a CL post for an atlas/craftsman lathe as I told you small =expensive in my area.

http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/4090545417.html

I had one like that. No tooling sold for $800 decent shape

Bob

 

[rsanter]

Thanks for the replies. Here is a go at some pics!!

On that machine, assuming good working condition and with all the stuff I would say $500 is a bargain and I would grab it. I know I could do a little cleaning and sell it for $800 to $1000 as a hobby machine.
If you pay $1000 for it expect to make no money or loose a little when you sell it

I have used them and they are not a bad machine for small stuff and light work. Too many people here are too used tom the ********* machines ( like I am ) and look down on these. For small light hobby use they are good.
If you want to do any larger work they will not do

Bob

 

[just_hillbilly]

Thanks for all the replies on this one. I like to buy it once and have it forever so I think I'll hold out for a South Bend!

Thanks again,
Patrick

 

[zkling]

If that is your plan, try to find a "Heavy 10" or similar machine. At the minimum I'd get a 9" model A. But don't just limit yourself to south bend machine. There are many other makes of very good small ish lathes out there. If you want the ultimate in a home lathe plus cool factor, possibly look for an old monarch 10EE As AP said above, the mid size clausing machines are very nice.