Craftsman style door?

[Moosefire]

Doing my part in trying to find a matching (or close to) door for my fiances 90 year old grandmother. The back door on the garage is completely rotten, and needs replacement. She prefers the same style as it matches all of her other doors, but I'm unable to find something similar on a google search. Anyone know where I could get a door like in the picture without making one? The first pic is obviously the bad one. The second pic is a better version of what I am looking for

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[Moosefire]

Oh, its 32 inch wide door, and I live in the metro Detroit area in case it helps...

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[orangeblood]

if these type places are still open, try a architectural salvage yard / shop. usually those places have tons of doors. i bet you find a match or something pretty close. is the frame still sound? looks like at some point there was a water problem?

making a door to fit an old frame will not be easy.

 

[yeldogt]

Doors at one time were more "regional" -- with makers all over the country. They would make various configurations of stock designs. Would bet that is the case here --

Looking for one in a Arch salvage place would be a good idea -- you may get lucky and find one -- or one close that can have some panels moved around.

At one time getting a configured wood door made was so easy -- today with the loss of so many millwork shops the choices are limited.

Last year I needed to get a replacement front door for one of my rentals in the city -- prehung w/ fixed transom above. I had a really hard time for nothing really that special .. short of a full custom shop. Today -- you pick from a book

 

[Kaizen]

Yup call around. If there is one there are a hundred in an area. Describe it as frame and panel door with glass x by x.


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[John in OH]

I had a couple of replacement exterior doors custom built by an Amish door company to fit an old 1920s vintage house in SE Ohio. The doors were fiberglass and pre-mounted in the frames. Excellent quality. Give them a call and see if they can help you out.

Troyer Door
1845 Co Rd 140, Sugarcreek, OH 44681
(330) 852-0205

 

[harley jim]

We have several architectural salvage stores around Chattanooga they are loaded with old panel doors. Hopefully you have one near you, looks like you have a 3 panel with lite. Be forewarned once you go in one of these stores you will go back.

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[yeldogt]

We have several architectural salvage stores around Chattanooga they are loaded with old panel doors. Hopefully you have one near you, looks like you have a 3 panel with lite. Be forewarned once you go in one of these stores you will go back.

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He has a panel up top as well ... that's the unusual part.

 

[harley jim]

Yes,I saw that and I dont remember ever seeing that before that's the local built aspect of it. Chances are there could be more around.
There are some around here that have the second and third panel turned 90 degrees from the top and bottom panels, somebody's unique idea from long ago

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[Moosefire]

Excellent advise as always guys. Thank you all for your help! I'll try to go to those habitat stores once they're open again, and look into the other stores as well. Hopefully itll work, if not I guess it's time to look into some new woodworking skills!

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[captain14]

I think the one near me (Washingtin DC) still answers emails.

May be worth a shot to send a photo to some of the ones local to you and maybe make a match with their stock?

 

[Lynden]

I would send an email to Simpson Door Company. Include a picture and the dimensions of the door you want replicated. They have stock doors which are similar and it seems as though it would be easy for them to modify the rails and panels and add a window.

https://www.simpsondoor.com/find-a-...icationID=2339&architecturalGroup=#DoorDetail

 

[kbs2244]

Detroit has had more than it's share of bad luck.
but there must be a millwork shop still around.

Be sure to check the frame for square.
Old building settle.

 

[Moosefire]

Hood advice. Yeah I haven't dug into it yet as I can see that as soon as I pull on the door it will disintegrate and then it will be wide open

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[twistedstang]

Materials unlimited in Ypsilanti has lots of old doors in various styles

 

[Moosefire]

Materials unlimited in Ypsilanti has lots of old doors in various styles

It says they're closed now (obviously) but I sent them an email. They have some fancy stuff in there!

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[Bert_]

That door is in about as good a shape as the one on my garage. Mine opens and closes though.

Be sure to check the frame also. Depending on how it was done that metal wrapped around the jamb can trap water and cause rot.

Even if you get a door that isn't exactly the same but similar it won't look out of place once painted. Any similar wood door will look way better than than the common steel doors.

 

[Simplytodd]

Picked up three of these doors last week for $60. Not exactly the same as yours has a top panel as well. Never seen one of those before. Still I think even one like the ones I got would fit with the theme of what you have as the doors won’t be compared side by side.


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[walta]

Have you discussed the budget? If you have a $2500 budget not a problem custom to you specs if you have a $25 budget not happening unless you are putting a lot of free labor.

The last thing you want is to be seen as taking advantage of grandma. Are you in a position to afford this as a gift?

I am not sure I would call that door craftsman style. You may want to search frame and panel door.

Would you be interested in something like this one on etsy? Most used doors will need some work and most new door will be 36 inches to meet today’s codes.

m/listing/201418633/315x795-antique-vintage-old-victorian?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_a-craft_supplies_and_tools-tools_and_equipment-home_improvement_and_hardware-doors_and_locks-doors&utm_custom1=0111aa97-c411-4c0f-9348-251fc4b0426c&utm_content=go_1843970764_76535536064_346364305149_pla-295604193102_c__201418633&utm_custom2=1843970764&gclid=CjwKCAjwv4_1BRAhEiwAtMDLsr9C4QOYcCZZuNBBlwsXBeIuFAs7D-hET2LvNRpR1UJZE3VdlzvagRoCKuAQAvD_BwE


Walta

 

[Moosefire]

Have you discussed the budget? If you have a $2500 budget not a problem custom to you specs if you have a $25 budget not happening unless you are putting a lot of free labor.

The last thing you want is to be seen as taking advantage of grandma. Are you in a position to afford this as a gift?

She hasn't specified. The door is bad enough to where it just has to be replaced, and she knows it. She said she tried to ask another family member who owns a construction company for help replacing the door but he ignored her request as he is one to do.

My labor is of course free for her, and if a similar style door is too expensive she did say she would be ok with a standard door (metal or wood), as long as it gets fixed. I just know how much she wants it to match and am trying to try. I want to be able to say honestly that I attempted to find something similar for her instead of doing what I feel most people do to the elderly, take the easiest way out and tell them a lie.

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[yeldogt]

Picked up three of these doors last week for $60. Not exactly the same as yours has a top panel as well. Never seen one of those before. Still I think even one like the ones I got would fit with the theme of what you have as the doors won’t be compared side by side.


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That's a classic side/ garage door ... it's actually close to the OP's 7 panel. When I was doing my early projects in Philadelphia there was still a full service millwork company in town. Doors are modular -- move panels around ... add glass. Almost endless possibilities -- they had guys that would assemble them on big glue up tables from stocked parts from the mill next door. Same with posts and shutters -- getting something custom was no problem and a nominal up-charge.

I always used 3 hinges inside and 4 outside -- it took the guy about 4 seconds to set up the hinge jig. This is all gone today .... the big make national companies just don't have the flexible manufacturing

 

[FrankLee]

Here's one
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/626291164765672/

 

[Moosefire]

Here's one

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/626291164765672/

Holy F! And it's only 30 miles away from me too! I'm not on Facebook but I sent it to the old lady, hopefully we can pick it up tomorrow!

Thank you so much!

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[The Cobbler]

wow, amazing. The GJ collective comes thru once again!

 

[Moosefire]

This place truly is amazing. The old lady thought it was weird that I posted such a random thing online, but after being around and seeing what y'all are capable of, i couldn't resist.

And I'm glad i did post!

Thank you all again!

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[FrankLee]

Here's one
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/626291164765672/

In case that one doesn't work out, here's another in Madison Heights.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/661720381278212/



Either way, please post a photo of the new door installed.

 

[brownbagg]

i never like having glass doors on garage/shop. that way people cant look in and see what you have

 

[Moosefire]

In case that one doesn't work out, here's another in Madison Heights.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/661720381278212/



Either way, please post a photo of the new door installed.

Thanks again! The first guy already had the door sold... awaiting pickup I think she said. I'm hoping this one works out!

I really do thank you for your help in finding this stuff!

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[Bert_]

Finding used is the best way to match something like that door. I just bought a window off facebook marketplace to replace a crappy generic vinyl window on the front of my house.

Be sure to do any repairs before you install the door. Usually need to paint and reset the glass on something this age. Good prep will make sure it lasts another 100 years.

 

[Moosefire]

Thanks for all of your help everyone! It took a bit but we finally picked one up from Facebook marketplace that was an exact match. Needs to be stripped of about 15 layers of paint, but it matches!!

Thanks again!

Sorry no pics...

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[The Cobbler]

Great, GJ comes thru once again

 

[NUTTSGT]

Thanks for all of your help everyone! It took a bit but we finally picked one up from Facebook marketplace that was an exact match. Needs to be stripped of about 15 layers of paint, but it matches!!

Thanks again!

Sorry no pics...

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Anybody around you blast with dry ice ? I think thats who can be used on wood with out harming it.

 

[Bert_]

I usually use a heat gun and scraper. Works really good except in the profiles around the panels.

Never heard of using dry ice. Would be interesting to hear how that works.

 

[Moosefire]

Yeah most of it is dry and flaking off, so I plan on trying to just strip the whole thing by myself then repaint. Hopefully it goes that easy!

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[Bert_]

After you strip it I like to put on some boiled linseed oil. The wood is usually pretty dry and the BLO helps with adhesion.

 

[Moosefire]

After you strip it I like to put on some boiled linseed oil. The wood is usually pretty dry and the BLO helps with adhesion.

BLO helps paint adhere to the wood? I'm no woodworker but I've never heard that. I wouldn't have guessed... seems backwards haha

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[KEH]

I can't tell for sure from the pic, but a little glueing and clamping might fix that door. Get 3 3/4 pipe clamp sets from HF, get some 3/4 pipe from the box store, and have at it. The pipe may be the most expensive part of the purchase. The pipe needs to have threads on one end. Got a welder? I have made up suitable pipe from scrap by buying a short pipe ******, sawing it in two, then welding the ends onto the ends of the scrap pipe, carefully. Use exterior grade wood glue.

KEH

 

[NUTTSGT]

I usually use a heat gun and scraper. Works really good except in the profiles around the panels.

Never heard of using dry ice. Would be interesting to hear how that works.

I've seen where it is used for mold remediation but I thought I heard that some where using it to strip wood as its not agressive as other media. Been a while, i could be remembering wrong.

 

[Moosefire]

I can't tell for sure from the pic, but a little glueing and clamping might fix that door. Get 3 3/4 pipe clamp sets from HF, get some 3/4 pipe from the box store, and have at it. The pipe may be the most expensive part of the purchase. The pipe needs to have threads on one end. Got a welder? I have made up suitable pipe from scrap by buying a short pipe ******, sawing it in two, then welding the ends onto the ends of the scrap pipe, carefully. Use exterior grade wood glue.



KEH

If I couldn't find a door that would've been my next choice before buying a steel door or something. That wood is pretty bad though...

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[Bert_]

BLO helps paint adhere to the wood? I'm no woodworker but I've never heard that. I wouldn't have guessed... seems backwards haha

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Old wood is dry. Especially if it hasn't been kept painted. It will **** all the oil out of your new paint before it dries and it will won't stick. I also like to put a coat of BLO on before reglazing windows. Helps the putty stick.

Any bare wood should also get an oil based primer.