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Many of you know the craftsman 48 pc thread restorer set is the same as snap on. I got the craftsman set for Christmas today....the 2 thread files are stamped "snap on." Made me pretty happy. Merry Christmas!
 
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That’s a nice suprise. The Lang restorer set is rebadged by almost every truck brand out there.
 
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joe_pinehill1,

A thread restorer tap (for inside threads) or die (for outside threads) will clean or reshape the steel threads (without removing material) so that a bolt or nut will properly tighten on it.

A tap and die set will remove steel material from the female or male threads so that it will be necessary to purchase another bolt or nut one size higher.


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dede2897234 said:
joe_pinehill1,

A thread restorer tap (for inside threads) or die (for outside threads) will clean or reshape the steel threads (without removing material) so that a bolt or nut will properly tighten on it.

A tap and die set will remove steel material from the female or male threads so that it will be necessary to purchase another bolt or nut one size higher.


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Hmmmm. Yeah I would like to know more about the difference between the two . Having not used a tap and die set ( I do have some odd pieces though ) would like to know more .

P.S. The link did not work for me on this Craftsman restorer kit . Does anyone else have a link ?
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scarrylarry
 
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scarrylarry said:
Hmmmm. Yeah I would like to know more about the difference between the two . Having not used a tap and die set ( I do have some odd pieces though ) would like to know more .

P.S. The link did not work for me on this Craftsman restorer kit . Does anyone else have a link ?
Thanks
scarrylarry
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Hi scarrylarry,

Since you live in Canada, the above link I provided to the Craftsman thread restorer set on the U.S. Sears website will not allow you access privileges.


Here is a link to the Craftsman (also found under the Kastar and Lang OEM labels) 48 pc. thread restorer set on eBay: eBay.


Dave
 
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There is a lot of debate on this issue but one thing is certain. Thread restorers are not magical. If a thread is too far gone you may end up destroying your thread restoring tool and may have to resort to a tap or die. It may or may not clean up the thread properly and it definitely will remove material but it may still be salvageable.

Some folks use tap and dies and never use thread restorers. It’s sort of a personal preference thing in the end.

Lots of opinions on this though. So watch out.
 
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scarrylarry said:
Hmmmm. Yeah I would like to know more about the difference between the two . Having not used a tap and die set ( I do have some odd pieces though ) would like to know more .


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scarrylarry
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Hi scarrylarry,

Here are a couple GJ threads that compare thread restorers and taps and dies:

- LINK 1 (post#'s 3, 26, 33)

- LINK 2


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I just used my old Craftsman set yesterday. They’re great for restoring/cleaning the threads on original fasteners particularly in old machinery.

Jim C.
 
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I've had a lot of holes where a tap needs to be used because the first part of the threads is messed up. The flat chaser won't start but a tapered tap will. Other than that, chasers are just easier to use in my opinion.
 
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The nice part of the rethreading set is that they come in both SAE and metric sizes. I have both the Snap-on rethreading set and regular tap + dies. It's just like broken bolts, every problem is a little different and you can never have enough tools when issues come up.

The last homeowner type thing I used a rethread set on, was a creeper somebody gave me. One of the casters was loose and the threads were screwed. Used the metric rethreading tap + die and turned out good as new
 
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Never use standard threading taps and dies on nuts and bolts. Threading taps and dies, if used on nuts and bolts, will cut the root out of the threads creating stress raisers thus reducing their capacity by about 30%. Only use threading taps and dies to create threads in drilled holes and raw stock.
 
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I only learned about thread restorers a few years ago, and surprisingly, not on GJ! I prefer to use them now, if possible because they leave more of the original material behind when they're done. Presumably then the repair is stronger. However, sometimes they don't work because the threads are too far gone, then I use the normal tap, like I used to back in the day.
 
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I have a set in the service truck and a set in the home garage. I use them almost daily between repairs to old generators and my 62 Thunderbird (which I just sold). Cleaned up a lot of damaged threads, and also chased a TON of dirty, greasy and rusty threads.

My dies get little to no use anymore, and my taps are mostly for new threads or helicoil installs.
 
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I don't own a set of restorers, I wonder how I made it this far?
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What I use the restorers on is something like knives on a forage harvester. Each knife is held on by 3 Grade 8 bolts screwed into a backing plate. Supposed to be torqued dry. You zip them off with a impact but then can't screw them in by hand. The restorers clean up the bolts and nuts on the backing plates but feel like they take less material off than the normal taps and dies
 
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A tap should reproduce the original thread form and not affect the strength. The only exception I know of is if the original thread was a UNJ thread where there is a radius in the external thread root necessitating a larger ID on the internal thread. There is no difference in the taps, only in the dies.
 
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Hi scarrylarry,

Since you live in Canada, the above link I provided to the Craftsman thread restorer set on the U.S. Sears website will not allow you access privileges.


Here is a link to the Craftsman (also found under the Kastar and Lang OEM labels) 48 pc. thread restorer set on eBay: eBay.


Dave
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Thank You !
scarrylarry
 
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I have the Snap-on set and after seeing the craftsman set they are the same. I got got, I don’t remember what I paid but it was probably too much.


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