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$75 to $150 depending on your market

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That's kinda what I was thinking. He's asking $200 but I think Ill offer $100. I've read some mixed reviews but I'm sure it will be miles better then the bench top model I've been barrowing for the last couple months.
 

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Some of those had stamped steel wings vs the webbed CI wings that are on that saw. I'd go $150 if it doesn't have any problems. The limiting factor on those is the stock fence. Is there a miter gauge included? It is not pictured. :dunno:
 
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Some of those had stamped steel wings vs the webbed CI wings that are on that saw. I'd go $150 if it doesn't have any problems. The limiting factor on those is the stock fence. Is there a miter gauge included? It is not pictured. :dunno:

I talked to the owner last night and he knew almost nothing about it. He said some blades and a few other things were included. So I take it that is a stock fence shown in the pic?
 

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I talked to the owner last night and he knew almost nothing about it. He said some blades and a few other things were included. So I take it that is a stock fence shown in the pic?

$100 max. Tell him you'll bring a stack of cash and pick it up immediately.
 

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I Paid $90.00 for my Craftsman saw a few years back. Looks just like that one with the cast iron wings. The original owner used it for a couple of projects then just parked it in the garage. Bring a helper as it is heavy.
 

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Is there a miter, owners manual, extra blades, etc, included? The fact that it's belt driven, with the die cast wings increases the price. Also, are you looking to keep it or flip it?
 

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I talked to the owner last night and he knew almost nothing about it. He said some blades and a few other things were included. So I take it that is a stock fence shown in the pic?

The fence in what is pictured, a miter gauge that goes in the two parallel slots on the table is not pictured.
 
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Is there a miter, owners manual, extra blades, etc, included? The fact that it's belt driven, with the die cast wings increases the price. Also, are you looking to keep it or flip it?
I'm sure I'll keep it for a while. I have a few projects that will require ripping some plywood and the table top model I've been using won't do more than a 20" rip.
 
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The fence in what is pictured, a miter gauge that goes in the two parallel slots on the table is not pictured.
I know, I asked him a bunch of questions and he was very vague. Even if it has the stock miter (which it probably does but he wouldn't know) I would prob upgrade it anyway.
 
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From what I've read, the wings are what drives the prices up from whatever is 'normal' for these saws. My 113 doesn't have them, but it was free.

What do you mean? The cast wings drive the price up?

A lot of the old Craftsman saws I've seen for sale or restored just don't have the wings any more. Dunno why...
 

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A lot of the old Craftsman saws I've seen for sale or restored just don't have the wings any more. Dunno why...

Most models weren't sold with the wings. Just like the motors, they were an add-on that was sold separately. Many buyers were home hobbyists that didn't think they needed to spend the extra money for small woodworking in a small crowded basement shop. It's one of the reasons that Shopsmith's were popular, it saved room.

Large sheets of plywood were something that was mostly reserved for professionals to use. Home hobby shops were big in the late 50's and early 60's. If they needed a large sheet cut, they would go to a neighbor's or have it cut at the lumber yard when they bought it. Or, they would use a guide and rip it with a circular saw.

A guy who bought a new saw with the wings was doing well, or just showing off.
 
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Most models weren't sold with the wings. Just like the motors, they were an add-on that was sold separately. Many buyers were home hobbyists that didn't think they needed to spend the extra money for small woodworking in a small crowded basement shop. It's one of the reasons that Shopsmith's were popular, it saved room.

I agree to all that for saws sold in the 40's-60's, but that saw is an 80's-90's, and I'll bet it came with the wings as part of a "contractor" package. The fence looks to be engineered to have them as well.

BTW, I have a version of that saw at work, and it's the worst saw I ever used. It took a lot of time and filing to get the blade aligned to the miter slots, and it's still a bit off. But I only paid $60 for it. I'd keep looking for an older King-Seeley model, or a Delta/Rockwell contractor saw.
 

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I agree to all that for saws sold in the 40's-60's, but that saw is an 80's-90's, and I'll bet it came with the wings as part of a "contractor" package. The fence looks to be engineered to have them as well.

BTW, I have a version of that saw at work, and it's the worst saw I ever used. It took a lot of time and filing to get the blade aligned to the miter slots, and it's still a bit off. But I only paid $60 for it. I'd keep looking for an older King-Seeley model, or a Delta/Rockwell contractor saw.

I disagree. If thats a 113. model it's a King Seely, made in the 50's-60's.
 

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Correction: Sorry, 113 models were Emerson, 103. models were King Seely. I still believe the 113.'s came out in the late 60's- 70's and were a good product.
 
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Well here's what I ended up with. 617a53af442bc314397250e7849f3b79.jpg
Got the saw, miter, six blades, a dato (I think) and I brought home this 113 bet sander. Gave him $160 for the package.
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I might clean up the sander and resell it, idk yet on that.
 

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If you lived closer, I'd buy that sander off of you. I've wanted one for years and have searched CL for one but nothing. Then I checked again right after making my above post and might have found a Grizzly. I sent the guy a text and asked a few questions. . . . finger crossed.
 

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Not interested in the sander? You will use the **** out of it.
Never had a bandsaw, but got one with a second Shopsmith (love them) and I toss stuff through it daily.
 

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As a contractor saw, the Emersons can be a real workhorse. When Sears cheaped out and stopped selling the Emersons, I was bummed until HD took it on (2424L). It all worked out for me in the end as it came with the herculift wheel kit and a splitter/guard/anti kickback that works well. They also upped the fence to a pretty decent aluminum one.
I wonder if the splitter/guard from Ridgid could be retrofitted to an older Cman, it's a must for ripping anything besides OSB and plywood.
 

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What appears to be an Emerson splitter just showed up om my CL. Not the same attachment point as Ridgid, but the same general design. If it is a King Seely, well at least there is a reference pic on this site now either way.
 

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I've had one of these things for nearly 30 years, and it's an ok tool IF you get a good blade. Get a good Forrest blade, or some such brand, and set it up square and you'll have a good tool for most projects. I don't recommend ripping much of anything of length with the stock fence, however. Better to use a circ saw with a straight edge guide.
 
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