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Craftsman tractors?

nissan_crawler

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I believe Deere still makes their own stuff up is Wisconsin.
(Except for the engines and trans.)
And it is pretty good stuff.

The problem with them is they keep everything just a bit off “standard.”
This goes from belts to tires and wheels.
You have to go to Deere for any parts.
And are they ever proud of their parts.
Belts can be twice the going rate.

If you are only looking to need it for a year I think any of the cheapies will last that long.

I would go to one of the big box stores and get one of the big brand names they sell.
The brand name will impress any future buyer even though the big box ones are not the same as the dealer ones.

Wrong on pretty much everything.

My last 2 (and only) lawn tractors have been Craftsman GT5000's with a 26hp(?) kohler/hydrostat. I've been reasonably satisfied - the first one lasted about 5 years and that was with extreme use and my failure to keep the oil level up is the only thing that put it to it's grave. Deck held up except for a couple of spindle replacements. Second one has had about 4 years of on-/off use and still working fine.

They are good for max. 2 acre areas IMO........anything beyond that gets the New Holland or Ford 8n tractor.

as a long shot - have you ever considered an 8n? You can pick up nice running examples for under $3k usually......and there's the cool factor of mowing with something 60 years old. I used to run mine over about a 10acre area with a 6' finish mower and it did fine. parts are readily available - either used or repops. As long as you buy it right, you can prob mow all season and sell for what you paid.

Yellowlakewelding - your JD is very neat - nice restore.

IMHO, an 8n is a horrible choice for just about anything other than for the fun of it.

no live pto, no live hydraulics, no power steering, can't handle a loader for squat. They're just not a good choice anymore, especially with their popularity raising their price range into proximity of mid 70's 40 hp diesels that have power steering, live pto's, live hydraulics, bigger tires for loader use, and built heavier.

Just for the record - I own a Home Depot Deere - an L110. I've had it for 8 years. It has I believe about 230 hours on it at this point. Had a no start problem during the first year that was taken care of the day I brought it in at the local Deere dealer. Beyond regular maintenance items, the only thing that has been replaced is the deck belt. Spindles are original. Currently only mowing about three quarters of an acre but geez - a 2 to 3 year mower????

I really don't get why people think a cheap mower is going to explode after just a few years. To the OP - you can go as cheap as you want if you just need a mower for a couple of years.

I rebuilt my 318 last march at 1100 hours...it has 150 hours on it after 1 year. After 2 years, I'll have more hours on it after the rebuild than your 8 years. When that mower has 1100 hours, let us know how it's doing, and if it's worth rebuilding.

The Craftsman one I had for 2 years had to be fixed after 90% of the times it was used. The frame cracked, holes wore out, linkages wore through, steering gears wore and slipped, carburetor sucked and needed constant fiddling...With 1100 hours on the 318 before rebuild, and 150 since...guess how many times I've fixed it since the rebuild? None, and it was worked on very little before the rebuild.

I'm not saying a Craftsman doesn't fit your purpose, it obviously does. However, any time somebody wants to try and compare the two, I'll be more than willing to chain the two together.

The JD salesman told me I was spending too much money overhauling the 318, and I should just buy a new 300 series. I told him I would bring the 318 down, we would chain them back to back in the middle of the parking lot, and whichever one drug the other one to the end, I would take home. He quickly declined.

My Bolens ran from 1968-1999 before an engine overhaul, and up to 2004 before I put it away until it got some care. You just can't compare them.

As for the original topic, just buy some cheap p.o.s. off craigslist and take a chance if it's for a year. Hell, for the cost of a new one, and what you would lose in value after a year (at least half), it might even pay to hire a lawn service for the year, if that's a possibility where you are.
 
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I vote for the craigs list cheap way. I have an MTD built 18hp from purchased from Sam's club in the early '90's and it is a maintainence hog. I have replaced every belt at least twice and fixed wallowed out holes and loose/sloppy linkages and now every spring on it, which is many. Mail order parts are a screw job and the local guy has to order everthing which makes his prices even higher. The mower deck spindle bearings and shaft aren't cheap and come as one unit unlike others where you can get a standard from a bearing house and move on. It does mow good but it is getting old working on it all the time. I have saved almost enough for a ZTR type mower and I do 4 acres so if anybody has good or bad things to say about any of those I'm listening.
 

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I've got a Craftsman. I went with the Kohler motor because it has a filter, and they say sump is bad on hills.

I am not a yard Nazi, I don't worry about how it looks just as long as it is knocked down. I got 5 acres, and I got between trees and love taking places I shouldn't, cutting down brush. I have gotten it stuck in the mud many times.

I do keep an extra blade on hand.

I bought mine for 1600 in 2001, 42" 17hp. I like it. My neighbor bought one 2-3 years ago and doesn't Not sure if this is matter that they are made cheaper, or that some people just are not happy.

At the time I bought mine, my buddy bought a JD, on sale for 3300. Liquid cool, quite. Nice machine. But I can buy two for that. The I abuse mine on trees and brush, I would rather do that.

So far, I have gone through 2 blades, and ripped apart the chute. need to get another shoot or make something up.

I did see a guy with a rope attached to his chute to life it up and going around things.
 
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+1 on MTD being junk. I bought it new in '99 and it has been trouble free until I moved to a house in the country with 3 1/2 acres. It led an easy life at the old house, never did anything but change oil and sharpen blades. The engine did start smoking a little after 4 or 5 years. Now that I am working it a little harder, it's crumbling after just one season. I'm planning to get a ZTR this year, should make mowing around all my trees faster and easier. Not going to be cheap, because I'm not going to buy another box store brand.

Joe
 

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I (somewhat reluctantly at the time) bought a AYP-manufactured Craftsman YT4000 with 24hp B&S V-twin* and foot pedal hydrostatic for around $1600 a couple years ago. It has turned out to be a better machine than I expected and has done a good job for mowing, dethatching, and vacumming leaves**. The 42" high-lift deck works seems to generate pretty good suction.

I much rather would have had either a vintage machine or a new Deere garden tractor, but for under $1700 the the Craftsman yard tractor was a pratical and economical out-of-the-box solution that my wife and son can comfortably operate.

Maybe someday I'll restore an old (pre-MTD) Cub Cadet...

*The 24hp B&S V-twin has a nice oil drain hose for no-mess (or at least reduced mess!) oil changes.

**I bought a DR Power tow-behind Lawn & Leaf vacuum last fall. With 2 acres of wooded lawn this was the best $1500 I've ever spent! Knocked leaf cleanup down from 6 weekends every fall to a couple 4-hour sessions!
 
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tdkkart

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*The 24hp B&S V-twin has a nice oil drain hose for no-mess (or at least reduced mess!) oil changes.


The Kohler on my Gravely has one of these too, twist and pull or some such.
I pulled it the other day and it came completely apart dumping 2 quarts of oil pretty much everywhere but my drain pan.........
 
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