Craftsman =v= question...
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Private Lugnutz
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four.cycle,
After finding a pair of what appear to me to be copper plated sockets (as opposed to nickel- or chrome-plated sockets with their copper underpants showing...) soon after the discussion here, I actually started a separate thread on the subject, linked here. Rather than continue to side-track in a Craftsman -V- thread, I'm going to move your comments over there and reply over there. I hope you don't mind.
jakemac
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There is nothing wrong with questioning what we think we know.
The date thread on GG, and the one here (both maintained by lauver), are admittedly continuing works in progress by those who have done the research that went into compiling the information in the first post.
The GJ thread is a sister to the GG thread, with the GG thread slightly more up to date with the current thoughts on the codes.
The debate you started in this thread only served to build upon the work that continues over there.
Positive confirmation is a result.
Negative confirmation is also a result.
I don't see any reason for an apology.
twertsy
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I dug deeper this morning. The absolute earliest the Moore sockets and drive tools are seen in newspaper adverts is 7/1/1947.
The earliest I can find the =CRAFTSMAN= is on chisels on 7/4/1946
The earliest I can find the =CRAFTSMAN= is on chisels on 7/4/1946
Catfishdan
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So it's not copper or wartime, but I just finished putting together this =v= 1/4" set. Looks early 60's based on the catalogues. Does it look like I got everything?
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theoldwizard1
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Mixture of 6, 8 and 12 point !
Were there 12 point sockets in those 1/4” sets? I thought only 6 points and a couple 8 points.
So it's not copper or wartime, but I just finished putting together this =v= 1/4" set. Looks early 60's based on the catalogues. Does it look like I got everything?
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Yes, the set looks like you have all the right tools.
Private Lugnutz
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Catfishdan
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No 12 points. Just looks that way in the picture. Just 6 and 8 point.
Right, I was just responding to “theoldwizard’s” reply......
thehorse13
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So it's not copper or wartime, but I just finished putting together this =v= 1/4" set. Looks early 60's based on the catalogues. Does it look like I got everything?
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I have the same set. 1960 - 1973 is the production time. You have everything that I have in my set.
There is a 12 piece and a 16 piece set. Both appear to use the same box.
Going by my 1966 catalog here are the contents.
12 pc, 9 sockets, all 6 point, 3/16, 7/32, 1/4, 9/32, 5/16. 11/32, 3/8, 7/16 and 1/2. It had a flex handle with crossbar. The box is the 12th piece.
16 pc added the ratchet, 3' and 6" extensions and slide bar handle.
You appear to have an 8 point instead of the correct 6 point. You do have the often missing crossbar for the flex handle.
Going by my 1966 catalog here are the contents.
12 pc, 9 sockets, all 6 point, 3/16, 7/32, 1/4, 9/32, 5/16. 11/32, 3/8, 7/16 and 1/2. It had a flex handle with crossbar. The box is the 12th piece.
16 pc added the ratchet, 3' and 6" extensions and slide bar handle.
You appear to have an 8 point instead of the correct 6 point. You do have the often missing crossbar for the flex handle.
Hey bluebolt,
Are you sure?? I thought there were two factory supplied 8 point sockets (1/4” and 5/16”) in the 16 piece set from that era. I think the same goes for the 12 piece set too. ....... Maybe we’re looking at different catalogs. I’m referencing the 1960 catalog.
Jim C.
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Catfishdan
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True. The 1960 catalog shows two 8 points. The 1964 catalog shows all six points.
bill300d
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That would be a 5/32"
My dad has this set fun the late 60s and I can confirm all 6-pt sockets.
I provided the answer and didn't realize it. The 1960 socket set goes from 7/32 to 7/16 in six point. The 1966 set goes from 3/16 to 1/2 in six point. So the 1960 set is missing the 3/16 and 1/2 sockets in six point.
four.cycle
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^ just a note on that:
I'm not sure "missing" is the right word in this instance.
Many 1/4" drive socket sets prior to the 1960s did not contain a 1/2" socket, and some did not go down to 3/16".
Some very early 1/4" drive sets only went up to 3/8".
The earlier the set, the more likely it contained 8-points in 1/4", 5/16", and 3/8". Later on the 8-points were gradually reduced (in many instances) to only the 1/4" and 5/16", and in many cases were phased out altogether.
I'm not talking about Craftsman here - I'm talking about various brands across the board. So it shouldn't be considered anomalous that Craftsman sets would have varied in content over the course of years - from what I've seen that happened with many different brands.
I'm not sure "missing" is the right word in this instance.
Many 1/4" drive socket sets prior to the 1960s did not contain a 1/2" socket, and some did not go down to 3/16".
Some very early 1/4" drive sets only went up to 3/8".
The earlier the set, the more likely it contained 8-points in 1/4", 5/16", and 3/8". Later on the 8-points were gradually reduced (in many instances) to only the 1/4" and 5/16", and in many cases were phased out altogether.
I'm not talking about Craftsman here - I'm talking about various brands across the board. So it shouldn't be considered anomalous that Craftsman sets would have varied in content over the course of years - from what I've seen that happened with many different brands.
