crafty chinese pro wrenches

[NC-Fordguy]

As we all know these wrenches are now being produced in China.

Numerous times these tools have been called, junk, garbage, ****. etc etc.

What I'd like to know has anyone purchased these and used them to any great extent?

I'm curious as to really how well these tools perform. I have some gearwrench wrenches and hf sockets made in china and they have performed well. I have no complaints with them thus far and have used these tools extensively on a couple bronco and jeep builds.

I know some of you can't help yourselves but lets keep this thread objective on performance and use rather than personal politics. Plenty of threads here for the latter.

 

[pipsters]

Someone had a thread on here where they mic'd the open end of the wrenches, and they were pretty wide, something like .2mm over and consistent at that. That is pretty wide. Not horrendous but I have noticed anything >.15mm over and any torque and they start to open up, doesn't matter the brand I've tried a few. As a rule I replaced all my RP's and US Pro wrenches that were >.15mm over unless the didn't have any in stock.

The worst wrench I had was a 12mm or 13mm pro that was .3mm over. Spread open and messed up the nut.

 

[Skin]

As we all know these wrenches are now being produced in China.

Numerous times these tools have been called, junk, garbage, ****. etc etc.

What I'd like to know has anyone purchased these and used them to any great extent?

I'm curious as to really how well these tools perform. I have some gearwrench wrenches and hf sockets made in china and they have performed well. I have no complaints with them thus far and have used these tools extensively on a couple bronco and jeep builds.

I know some of you can't help yourselves but lets keep this thread objective on performance and use rather than personal politics. Plenty of threads here for the latter.

Aside from people with the usual agenda i think you'd find most everyone else, such as myself, is disgusted not by the wrenches themselves but by
1. sears dumping USA tools under a brand that generations have grown up with

and

b. The price was never adjusted. They want $100 for 13 chinese wrenches. Any day of the week you can purchase GearWrench long pattern wrenches for $65 and thats a 15pc set (up to 22mm) with a wrench rack to boot. Outsourcing is one thing, charging a mint for chinese tools is another thing entirely.

By the way they arent called "Professional" nor has China ever produced them. The asian sets are just called full polish. The USA version was the only "Pro" wrench.

 

[wornoutoldman]

What he said! ^^^^^

 

[LumpyMusic]

NCFordguy wrote:
" ...I know some of you can't help yourselves but lets keep this thread objective on performance and use rather than personal politics. Plenty of threads here for the latter...."

Aside from people with the usual agenda i think you'd find most everyone else, such as myself, is disgusted not by the wrenches themselves but by
1. sears dumping USA tools under a brand that generations have grown up with

and

b. The price was never adjusted. They want $100 for 13 chinese wrenches. Any day of the week you can purchase GearWrench long pattern wrenches for $65 and thats a 15pc set (up to 22mm) with a wrench rack to boot. Outsourcing is one thing, charging a mint for chinese tools is another thing entirely...

Guess it only took two posts.

Ho hum...


Lumpy

Can you play country music?
Sure. Which country would you like?

www.LumpyMusic.com

 

[shoturtle]

I have some friends that have them, and compare to my us made long pattern they are not quit as finished. But they are decent quality. They seem a little softer, but not horrible. They do not spread like some of the hf stuff I have seen.

So if you can not find the us pro, the Chinese polished is not a bad option.

 

[osborn.ozzy]

Never tried them,I love my usa made ones though. My old RP's just collect dust now.

 

[shoturtle]

NCFordguy wrote:
" ...I know some of you can't help yourselves but lets keep this thread objective on performance and use rather than personal politics. Plenty of threads here for the latter...."




Guess it only took two posts.

Ho hum...


Lumpy

Can you play country music?
Sure. Which country would you like?

www.LumpyMusic.com

That was pretty quick with the personal agenda.

 

[Bull]

The fact of the matter is that hands-on tests are most often NOT conducted prior to buying a tool. People do research, people MIGHT try the tool out in advance, but some significant portion of the decision to buy comes down to things like: brand recognition; perceived value or quality levels; personal philosophies.

I agree that the brand and product bashing here is getting out of hand. But I disagree that any hands-on testing results will influence people who don't like Chinese tools to buy Chinese tools.

Different brands become the donkey here, in a kind of rotation.

 

[472scout]

As we all know these wrenches are now being produced in China.

Numerous times these tools have been called, junk, garbage, ****. etc etc.

What I'd like to know has anyone purchased these and used them to any great extent?

I'm curious as to really how well these tools perform. I have some gearwrench wrenches and hf sockets made in china and they have performed well. I have no complaints with them thus far and have used these tools extensively on a couple bronco and jeep builds.

I know some of you can't help yourselves but lets keep this thread objective on performance and use rather than personal politics. Plenty of threads here for the latter.

I don't think you'll find many that have purchased them given the price point.

Bottom line with the majority of the new offshore craftsman hand tools is less quality for the consumer, but more profit for Sears.

 

[shoturtle]

I doubt it is really less quality with their rp ratchet or chinese made crow foot or flare wrench. They will last, and do the job for years. And they are not really a big profit for sears at their price point. If people open their eyes and shop around for tools that are the same grade as the cman. Ie lowes kolbalt, autozone duralast. They are in the same price point. To compare them to hf, which is a much lower grade like the sears evolv line, is compare a Chevy to a Kia. The chinese cmans are price higher as it is made better. The selector on the craftsman are much better made, unlike the cheaper hf offering.

Value wise, the Chinese polish long pattern is 1/2 the price of the Armstrong us made ones, and will preform the task give to them almost as well, on max torque, they are about 5% softer, and will bend slight earlier the the us made Armstrong. So for 1/2 the price for 95% of the performance is a value to allot of people.

 

[Hiball]

Aside from people with the usual agenda i think you'd find most everyone else, such as myself, is disgusted not by the wrenches themselves but by
1. sears dumping USA tools under a brand that generations have grown up with

and

b. The price was never adjusted. They want $100 for 13 chinese wrenches. Any day of the week you can purchase GearWrench long pattern wrenches for $65 and thats a 15pc set (up to 22mm) with a wrench rack to boot. Outsourcing is one thing, charging a mint for chinese tools is another thing entirely.

By the way they arent called "Professional" nor has China ever produced them. The asian sets are just called full polish. The USA version was the only "Pro" wrench.

Very Well Said... I Cant and Wont comment on the Wrench Quality, I will say with Great Confidence that i will NEVER give $100 bucks for a set of Asian Wrenches, Especially to a company who is trying to Prosper soley off there Brand Heritage. If i needed a set of Asian Wrenches, What benefit does a $100 dollar set of wrenches give me over a $20 dollar set from HF? I Own a ton of Craftsman tools and have always been pleased with there ability to offer US tools at a Affordable Price.. What can they do for me Now?

Its much more fun swinging the $100 dollar set of Cornwells that i bought from you.

On a Side Not i was at the Big Sears store today and figured i would browse the Clearance isle, They did have some 6pt Raised panel sets discounted to $21 bucks and they just about fooled me on some Torx T handled sets, I had a set in my hand and at First glance i thought they where the Professional series/USA based off the handle colors but after further investigation i found them to be from China.

 

[NC-Fordguy]

Guys....

Let's please keep on topic here.

 

[shoturtle]

All the brasher really want any thread on craftman close do to personal agendas.

 

[472scout]

I don't know about the wrenches, but the ratchets are not as nicely finished as the old ones.
Actually, I can say that the polished offset box end wrenches are not even close to the USA versions. I have a set and they're fantastic. RIP.

 

[Hiball]

LOL.. Bashing.. You guys are Paranoid. You want to see bashing, Scroll back 2-3 years.

 

[cundifc]

The fact of the matter is that hands-on tests are most often NOT conducted prior to buying a tool. People do research, people MIGHT try the tool out in advance, but some significant portion of the decision to buy comes down to things like: brand recognition; perceived value or quality levels; personal philosophies.

I agree that the brand and product bashing here is getting out of hand. But I disagree that any hands-on testing results will influence people who don't like Chinese tools to buy Chinese tools.

Different brands become the donkey here, in a kind of rotation.

Give people some time, they will all go back to bashing snap on for being over priced and on and on...

 

[concealer404]

Aside from people with the usual agenda i think you'd find most everyone else, such as myself, is disgusted not by the wrenches themselves but by
1. sears dumping USA tools under a brand that generations have grown up with

and

b. The price was never adjusted. They want $100 for 13 chinese wrenches. Any day of the week you can purchase GearWrench long pattern wrenches for $65 and thats a 15pc set (up to 22mm) with a wrench rack to boot. Outsourcing is one thing, charging a mint for chinese tools is another thing entirely.

By the way they arent called "Professional" nor has China ever produced them. The asian sets are just called full polish. The USA version was the only "Pro" wrench.

Linky? I haven't seen them that cheap since Sears was blowing them out for $55.

 

[Hiball]

http://www.amazon.com/GearWrench-81901-Piece-Combination-Set/dp/B000K1OH94/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1340424649&sr=8-7&keywords=gearwrench+long+pattern+wrench+set

http://www.amazon.com/GearWrench-81902-Piece-Combination-Metric/dp/B000NICGBU/ref=pd_bxgy_hi_text_b

 

[concealer404]

http://www.amazon.com/GearWrench-81901-Piece-Combination-Set/dp/B000K1OH94/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1340424649&sr=8-7&keywords=gearwrench+long+pattern+wrench+set

http://www.amazon.com/GearWrench-81902-Piece-Combination-Metric/dp/B000NICGBU/ref=pd_bxgy_hi_text_b

Most excellent, thank you sir!

 

[rsanter]

from what I have seen thay have more material around the ends of the wrench. this is generally done to maintain the same strenth while using a cheaper material.
it may very well be that they are just as strong as the USA because of that.
however...
there are several factors to materials like steel. there is strenth and there is toughness verses hardness.
so unless someone tests them we may never know. but we so know that if you have ends that are thicker/bulkier then you have wrench that will not work as well in tight places

bob

 

[bcradio]

I have the us made pro wrenches but the chinese stubby wrenches. They look a little different, but they perform excellent. I can't put as much torque on them as long ones but they have worked great. They were the most complete stubby sets I could find in that price range and I'm completely satisfied.

Edit: I don't mean less torque because they are inferior but rather because they are shorter

 

[TwoInch]

Very Well Said... I Cant and Wont comment on the Wrench Quality, I will say with Great Confidence that i will NEVER give $100 bucks for a set of Asian Wrenches, Especially to a company who is trying to Prosper soley off there Brand Heritage. If i needed a set of Asian Wrenches, What benefit does a $100 dollar set of wrenches give me over a $20 dollar set from HF? I Own a ton of Craftsman tools and have always been pleased with there ability to offer US tools at a Affordable Price.. What can they do for me Now?


.

i hate what has happened to craftsman just as much as anybody...

but i am damn sick of reading the same pointless, irrelevant comments.


with this logic, why did you spend that $100 on those used cornwells? when you could have gotten USA RPs? COO matters, but all tools asian, or chinese for that matter, are not of the same caliber. everyone should sell off their snap on wrenches, and get the cheaper RPs, cause they are USA and all tools of the same COO are comparable... what if next week, china released the strongest, prettiest, best fitting wrenches anyone has ever seen? are they HF quality automatically, and of the same worth?

i absolutely guarantee that the china long patterns from HF are about 30% the quality of the craftsmans or less. i own the HFs and a couple chinese polished craftsman wrenches, and they are nowhere near the same league quality wise. am i happy they are chinese? not at all. are they comparable to the USA of the same PN? not sure. but they are not junk, and not HF quality.

the point of this thread is quality of the tool, not the COO. the op asked for people to not hijack the thread with **** like this. you stated you cant and wont comment on the quality... well, why comment then. as for what would you get from the craftsman over the HF, quite a bit of quality is what you would get. same COO, much better quality... are they worth the $100 bill? i cant say, but the wrenches work, and they are far from junk. i wouldnt give sears my money for them either, but i would definitely use them day in and out with no problem. although that is a personal issue i have with sears at the moment, and unrelated to this thread.

on another note, i measured my chinese polished CM wrenches, and they measure comparable to my RPs. and fit fasteners well.

 

[Hiball]

i hate what has happened to craftsman just as much as anybody...

but i am damn sick of reading the same pointless, irrelevant comments.


with this logic, why did you spend that $100 on those used cornwells? when you could have gotten USA RPs? COO matters, but all tools asian, or chinese for that matter, are not of the same caliber. everyone should sell off their snap on wrenches, and get the cheaper RPs, cause they are USA and all tools of the same COO are comparable... what if next week, china released the strongest, prettiest, best fitting wrenches anyone has ever seen? are they HF quality automatically, and of the same worth?

i absolutely guarantee that the china long patterns from HF are about 30% the quality of the craftsmans or less. i own the HFs and a couple chinese polished craftsman wrenches, and they are nowhere near the same league quality wise. am i happy they are chinese? not at all. are they comparable to the USA of the same PN? not sure. but they are not junk, and not HF quality.

the point of this thread is quality of the tool, not the COO. the op asked for people to not hijack the thread with **** like this. you stated you cant and wont comment on the quality... well, why comment then. as for what would you get from the craftsman over the HF, quite a bit of quality is what you would get. same COO, much better quality... are they worth the $100 bill? i cant say, but the wrenches work, and they are far from junk. i wouldnt give sears my money for them either, but i would definitely use them day in and out with no problem. although that is a personal issue i have with sears at the moment, and unrelated to this thread.

on another note, i measured my chinese polished CM wrenches, and they measure comparable to my RPs. and fit fasteners well.

I could Give a **** what anyone here buys.. Domestic, Import etc.. I have my Personal preferences and "I" Choose to Buy USA tools when i can, Thats none of your Business nor is what you buy Mine. I Own Raised Panel Wrenches, I have no Issue with them with the exception of Comfort and length.

"MY Point" and "MY Opinion" On $100 Import Wrenches was if "I" was needing a set i would NOT buy the Craftsman, That is "MY" Opinion and Right as a Consumer and shouldnt be construed as the gospel or me trying to influence anyone here.

I NEVER Commented on the Quality of the Import full polish Wrenches because Frankly I havent used them, YOU will NEVER find me "Blindly" representing a product that i haven't used..

Further More your the One that brought Coo Quality into the Thread... My only comment was following up on what SKIN mentioned about the Price not corresponding with the COO from Sears. Generally when a company goes from Domestic Produced tools to Imports the Price reflects this change, Not the Case with Sears.

Clam Down.. <-- Yeah thats right Clam.

Xanax for the Win..

 

[Big Johnson]

As we all know these wrenches are now being produced in China.

Numerous times these tools have been called, junk, garbage, ****. etc etc.

What I'd like to know has anyone purchased these and used them to any great extent?

I'm curious as to really how well these tools perform. I have some gearwrench wrenches and hf sockets made in china and they have performed well. I have no complaints with them thus far and have used these tools extensively on a couple bronco and jeep builds.

I know some of you can't help yourselves but lets keep this thread objective on performance and use rather than personal politics. Plenty of threads here for the latter.

I bought the Line Wrenches from Craftsman several years ago thinking, (well not giving a ****), assuming, they were made in U.S. I look at quality of things to make sure they will last a lifetime. I know that they are different type of wrenches, but the Chines made Line wrenches feel, and look better than my RPs are. I would probably go with the gearwrenches though because I think there quality is very well controlled.

 

[TwoInch]

I could Give a **** what anyone here buys.. Domestic, Import etc.. I have my Personal preferences and "I" Choose to Buy USA tools when i can, Thats none of your Business nor is what you buy Mine. I Own Raised Panel Wrenches, I have no Issue with them with the exception of Comfort and length.

"MY Point" and "MY Opinion" On $100 Import Wrenches was if "I" was needing a set i would NOT buy the Craftsman, That is "MY" Opinion and Right as a Consumer and shouldnt be construed as the gospel or me trying to influence anyone here.

I NEVER Commented on the Quality of the Import full polish Wrenches because Frankly I havent used them, YOU will NEVER find me "Blindly" representing a product that i haven't used..

Clam Down.. <-- Yeah thats right Clam.

Xanax for the Win..

i quoted your post, and commented on some of the specifics, but it was directed to the masses also.

he asked a specific question, and asked for people(this includes you) to not go on about unrelated ****. i also am sick of reading the same garbage day in and out too. there are how many threads full of it? can we keep one single craftsman thread on track and to the point?

"insert username here" hey, i know nothing about the quality you are asking about, and i see you prefer no one goes on about personal preferences and the standard "im not gonna give them a red cent, them commie bastards", but im gonna give you my take on the situation i have with sears one more time, just outta spite.. "insert craftsman china violin garbage here"

sorry, but it gets old.

and anyone who goes with the "if ya dont like it, dont read it...." well i dont know its useless ****, until i have read it already

 

[Hiball]

i quoted your post, and commented on some of the specifics, but it was directed to the masses also.

No Biggie... As far as i Know, Those China Full Polish wrenches might be the best Wrench set ever made, Ill Probably Never know first Hand.

he asked a specific question, and asked for people(this includes you) to not go on about unrelated ****. i also am sick of reading the same garbage day in and out too. there are how many threads full of it? can we keep one single craftsman thread on track and to the point?

I felt Skin made a very good point based on the "Price Point" of the Craftsman Wrenches compared to the Old US made ones. Was my Post somewhat off track? Yeah.. It probably was but in NO way was my Response aimed at the Quality of any tool brand based off COO. Im fully aware that China can make some Decent tools when Requested by the one footing the bill. My apologies if my comments where threatening to the Op's thread, I'm not perfect ....

"insert username here" hey, i know nothing about the quality you are asking about, and i see you prefer no one goes on about personal preferences and the standard "im not gonna give them a red cent, them commie bastards", but im gonna give you my take on the situation i have with sears one more time, just outta spite.. "insert craftsman china violin garbage here"

sorry, but it gets old.

and anyone who goes with the "if ya dont like it, dont read it...." well i dont know its useless ****, until i have read it already

It wont Ever Quit, I can tell you that it has gotten better.

 

[NC-Fordguy]

Someone had a thread on here where they mic'd the open end of the wrenches, and they were pretty wide, something like .2mm over and consistent at that. That is pretty wide. Not horrendous but I have noticed anything >.15mm over and any torque and they start to open up, doesn't matter the brand I've tried a few. As a rule I replaced all my RP's and US Pro wrenches that were >.15mm over unless the didn't have any in stock.

The worst wrench I had was a 12mm or 13mm pro that was .3mm over. Spread open and messed up the nut.

How did the box end of the wrench measure out? Got a link to the thread you are referring to??

from what I have seen thay have more material around the ends of the wrench. this is generally done to maintain the same strenth while using a cheaper material.
it may very well be that they are just as strong as the USA because of that.
however...
there are several factors to materials like steel. there is strenth and there is toughness verses hardness.
so unless someone tests them we may never know. but we so know that if you have ends that are thicker/bulkier then you have wrench that will not work as well in tight places

bob

I have a set of the black industrial finish crafty spline wrenches. I too noticed the awkward looking open end of the wrench.

I haven't used the wrenches alot-mainly just on square nuts. They do great in this task.

 

[NC-Fordguy]

I don't think you'll find many that have purchased them given the price point.

Bottom line with the majority of the new offshore craftsman hand tools is less quality for the consumer, but more profit for Sears.

About a week ago I looked at this set at the nearby sears. There were six sae sets and today there were two left, so somebody is buying them.

As stated before I'm really curious on the performance and use of these wrenches.

 

[shoturtle]

from what I have seen thay have more material around the ends of the wrench. this is generally done to maintain the same strenth while using a cheaper material.
it may very well be that they are just as strong as the USA because of that.
however...
there are several factors to materials like steel. there is strenth and there is toughness verses hardness.
so unless someone tests them we may never know. but we so know that if you have ends that are thicker/bulkier then you have wrench that will not work as well in tight places

bob

The long polish does not have the lobster claw like the stubby, they are about the same thickness as the us pros and the gw xl

 

[bcradio]

The long polish does not have the lobster claw like the stubby, they are about the same thickness as the us pros and the gw xl

The full polish stubby, full polish regular, and cross force wrenches all have the same heads... Even the usa cross force has that head

 

[shoturtle]

They measure up a little different, they are the same as the gw actually. The stubby is the monster.

 

[472scout]

About a week ago I looked at this set at the nearby sears. There were six sae sets and today there were two left, so somebody is buying them.

As stated before I'm really curious on the performance and use of these wrenches.

I looked at the Chinese version in Sears. Actually, I picked them not thinking about CCO and my first thought was WTH because they looked cheap compared to my USA polished box ends (SK?). Anyway, flipped over the package and sure enough China. No reduction in price. Why buy $$$$ Chinese wrenches in Sears when I can get about the same quality in HF for $?? Doesn't add up. I'm not bashing Sears, just stating that the bang for the buck is not there with Chinese tools at Sears. Actually, I had started a thread saying that all the Sears bashing isn't really warranted; in a nutshell there were factors that pushed Sears to go offshore that were out of their control. Ryan came along and closed it with no good reason, but hey it's his site.

 

[TwoInch]

I looked at the Chinese version in Sears. Actually, I picked them not thinking about CCO and my first thought was WTH because they looked cheap compared to my USA polished box ends (SK?). Anyway, flipped over the package and sure enough China. No reduction in price. Why buy $$$$ Chinese wrenches in Sears when I can get about the same quality in HF for $?? Doesn't add up. I'm not bashing Sears, just stating that the bang for the buck is not there with Chinese tools at Sears. Actually, I had started a thread saying that all the Sears bashing isn't really warranted; in a nutshell there were factors that pushed Sears to go offshore that were out of their control. Ryan came along and closed it with no good reason, but hey it's his site.

again, the HF and craftsman full polish wrenches are not even in the same league. people will assume so much, its amazing. i do not have the whole craftsman sets, but i have a couple, and i do have the HF sets. they are many miles apart. the HF box ends are not even nearly "round" or centered. when you put it on a fastener, you are lucky to get 3 contacts out of the 6 your supposed to. you get solid full contact with the craftsmans, and the box ends are forged "round" and centered. the open ends of the HF measure up fine, at least the sets i have do.

so whether they are worth what sears asks for them, is another story. but if the HF polished wrenches are worth HFs price, i would say from personal experience, the craftsman polished wrenches are worth 3 or 4 times what HF gets for theirs easily. MILES apart in QUALITY

 

[TwoInch]

you know, the more i read this stuff i am realizing more and more how good we had it to be getting these USA made, mediocre quality tools for the price Sears sold them for. they actually held out for a long time and kept those USA tool prices at rock bottom, in my eyes. less than a dollar a piece in any set if you waited for a sale. you cant do that at a dollar store. we probably should have been paying much more than we have been for the last ten years....

we have been spoiled by craftsman. gearwrench or lowes can sell asian tools in the same price range(or more) and they are totally cool and worth it. but craftsman china is automatically HF garbage. the RP ratchets sucked before they were china, so thats moot. but the wrenches are comparable to gearwrench... probably made in the same place. sears sale prices on their china wrenches are totally fair in my eyes.

but hey out of all the china tool sellers out there, sears needs to now charge HF prices. but gear wrench can charge a premium. right? wrong.

it ***** we lost an american icon. but the prices arent ridiculous like everyone seems to claim. look at the tool market. you can get masterforce ratchets, sockets and wrenches, which are the same as craftsman USA danaher products, but you will pay more for them. or pay for craftsman industrial, which is more USA priced it seems.

 

[472scout]

again, the HF and craftsman full polish wrenches are not even in the same league. people will assume so much, its amazing. i do not have the whole craftsman sets, but i have a couple, and i do have the HF sets. they are many miles apart. the HF box ends are not even nearly "round" or centered. when you put it on a fastener, you are lucky to get 3 contacts out of the 6 your supposed to. you get solid full contact with the craftsmans, and the box ends are forged "round" and centered. the open ends of the HF measure up fine, at least the sets i have do.

so whether they are worth what sears asks for them, is another story. but if the HF polished wrenches are worth HFs price, i would say from personal experience, the craftsman polished wrenches are worth 3 or 4 times what HF gets for theirs easily. MILES apart in QUALITY

Exactly which Sears wrenches are you speaking of? Post up a link to the Sears site.

 

[TwoInch]

im speaking on the china craftsman polished wrenches in general. i dont have any sets, but i have a couple of different styles, i have a couple flare nuts, the set of china crowfoot flare nuts metrics, an offset double box i warrantied, and a couple polished combos.

aint no way im searching that damn site for specific links.

 

[TwoInch]

i looked, the double box must have been NOS or they havent gone over yet. its USA

 

[472scout]

i looked, the double box must have been NOS or they havent gone over yet. its USA

Yeah I thought you were talking about different wrenches. The Chinese offset box aren't even close to the old USA Craftsman. Thanks for your opinion though.

 

[HandyManny]

I own two sets (metric/SAE) of Cman Pro combos that are about 15 years old. Mine were made by SK back when the first series of Cman Pro wrenches were being contracted to SK to be made. I think those SK wrenches are pretty damn good wrenches, even in comparison to the later US made Danaher Pro wrenches made for Craftsman

I cannot comment on the recent high polished Chinese made Craftsman wrenches as far as overall quality goes. All I can say is that I'm disappointed with Sears and Craftsman for making this big recent change to the tool line. I've actually been largely disappointed with many US made Cman tools over the last 15years or so. So to me Craftsman largely met their demise a few years ago anyway. If Sears is going to offer junk then I'd rather it not be their recent USA stuff. That's not to say the new imports are junk though. I have no idea about the new stuff.