Cramp **** connectors for NMB wire?

[MatBirch]

Had to replace my panel in an emergency speed fashion. A leaking meter base on the outside led to corrosion on the neutral bar which created heat leading to arcing and burned wires. The original was very small and overcrowded. The house had been remodeled so many times, that the panel was filled primarily with tandem breakers.
My new panel is much longer, which leaves many of my wires far too short. I know I'm allowed a wire nut in the panel, but it just seems wrong. Short of a huge amount of additional work involving adding a bunch of j-boxes and making extension connections in them followed by bringing all new wire into the panel, is there a cleaner way of splicing wire in the panel?

 

[teamo]

No other way to do it except splices or using a large junction box outside of the main panel and bringing the circuits from the panel into it and making the connections there.

 

[justsam]

You might consider the use of 2 port WAGO as opposed to just wire nuts. Faster, neater, slightly more costly than wire nuts. Only good for 12 ga or less.

http://www.wago.us/products/terminal-blocks-and-connectors/installation-connectors/compact-splicing-connectors-for-all-conductor-types-222-series/overview/

 

[pattenp]

I'd use a wire nut before a push on connector. That's just me.

 

[justsam]

I'd use a wire nut before a push on connector. That's just me.

WAGO is more of a lever type clamp connector as opposed to a push on, which I think I would stay away from too, even though they have certainly improved.

Nothing wrong with properly installed wire nut.

 

[Syberia]

These look cleaner than a wire nut because they're in line. They are push on, but I've never had a problem with them.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Sp...sh-In-****-Splices-10-Pack-30-1342S/202894306

 

[toplessHO]

I'd use a wire nut before a push on connector. That's just me.

ditto
and a **** splice isnt made for solid wire either

 

[toplessHO]

whats wrong with just putting a piece of 4x4 gutter on top of panel the same width
and have all the incoming wires splice there,clean and neat.

I might be wrong but didnt NEC now relax the no splices in a panel board as long as they terminated in it.

 

[zmaxmotorsports]

whats wrong with just putting a piece of 4x4 gutter on top of panel the same width
and have all the incoming wires splice there,clean and neat.

I might be wrong but didnt NEC now relax the no splices in a panel board as long as they terminated in it.

Ive never had a problem with splicing wires inside of a panel as long as its done neatly,I do it all the time.

 

[soj]

These look cleaner than a wire nut because they're in line. They are push on, but I've never had a problem with them.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ideal-Sp...sh-In-****-Splices-10-Pack-30-1342S/202894306

Interesting that the video for this product shows how to install a WIRE NUT!

 

[Charles (in GA)]

I might be wrong but didnt NEC now relax the no splices in a panel board as long as they terminated in it.

Might have been a local rule in some places, but never was in the NEC that you could not splice in a panel.

Charles

 

[MatBirch]

Thanks gang. I finished it up with wire nuts. I have lots of room in my new panel, so I was able to keep it nice and tidy.

 

[Norcal]

It's OK to splice in a panel as long as there is sufficient gutter space to accommodate them, most panels have plenty of space.

 

[checkthisout]

Thanks gang. I finished it up with wire nuts. I have lots of room in my new panel, so I was able to keep it nice and tidy.

Post a pic!

 

[bczygan]

Similar question.

Existing is a 60 Amp fused panel with screw in fuses, plus a separate panel for 220V for dryer and range which have been replaced with gas appliances.

New panel will be 200A 30/40 QO.

Would eventually like to rewire the entire house which has no grounded receptacles. And add a sub panel for attached garage.

Will install a new service entrance for the new panel and have a new OH drop.

Should I just feed the existing fuse panel from the new one and then install replacement circuits in the new panel?

I'd like to get all the old circuits out of the fuse panel quicker than that.

Bill

 

[LS6 Tommy]

I didn't read all the posts, so if I'm being redundant I apologize.

Crimp terminals are not for solid wire.

Tommy

 

[Pwrgeek]

I'd put the new panel in and feed the old one as a sub. Then move everything over as quickly as possible. As for splices inside a panel it wouldn't fly here. I'd mount a large junction box / boxes up near the ceiling and make the splices here.


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