Cruzan80
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I hope you have been working out. Apparently 60,500 pennies (the cost of the metric set) weighs about 333lbs!
CRAZY VIM DBE ratcheting wrench price
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Vinny
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Understand, all these tool companies that import from China and Taiwan were never doing it to save you money. That's just a by product. The goal is to undercut the competition to kill them, then charge whatever they want because you have no other options. Same strategy these tech companies like Uber did to their applicable industries
Yea idk if anyone but vim makes them and vim are spline and kind of a sus company
KnurledNut
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Thicker beams that don't flex so bad would be welcome. I've about turned my Genius XL DBE's into pretzels on a few occasions. Cornwell used to have one that was comfortable and strong.
Genius/Cornwell:
I don't own any of this type or wrench, because I don't understand their usefulness.
I get the long 0* offset box end. That makes sense for breaking stuck things free. I have a set of those and I don't use them often, but occasionally they come in handy.
I don't get why you'd want to swing a long ratcheting wrench. Is it so you only need one tool instead of two? I prefer my ratcheting wrenches to be standard length or shorter, same as I wouldn't use an 18" ratchet on a 6mm bolt (10mm head).
If it's for accessibility, how are you going to put the bolt or nut back on anyway?
What am I missing here?
I get the long 0* offset box end. That makes sense for breaking stuck things free. I have a set of those and I don't use them often, but occasionally they come in handy.
I don't get why you'd want to swing a long ratcheting wrench. Is it so you only need one tool instead of two? I prefer my ratcheting wrenches to be standard length or shorter, same as I wouldn't use an 18" ratchet on a 6mm bolt (10mm head).
If it's for accessibility, how are you going to put the bolt or nut back on anyway?
What am I missing here?
But if you got to remove a nut or a bolt that’s down in the engine bay and you can’t fit your arm but you can fit a XL wrench then you use this. The alternative might be having to remove a bunch of components like alternator or water pump to get to something.
Honeslty you might ask why not use a ratchet and yeah but maybe you don’t got room for that.
If your going to put it back you could put a piece of paper towel to hold the bolt to the wrench.
Or honestly I’ve been in some binds where I can reach it with my hand but I can’t fit my hand and a wrench in the spot. So I could put the nut or bolt back with my fingers but not enough room for my fingers and a wrench. But if I extend the length of the wrench out then I can run it.
Or maybe the bolt is on there kind of tight and you need more leverage from a longer tool.
Now here’s the real question as to why this tool in specific. Why not have a set of 0 degree fixed wrenches and a separate set of ratcheting wrenches? Why have it on one tool the same size?
Now personally I like the one tool with same sizes so you don’t got to buy tools you don’t need. Maybe you never see 15mm but the double end ratcheting comes 13-15 and you’d want a 13 but now your stuck buying a 13-15 in 0 degree and a 13-15 in ratcheting flex ratchet. Where’s you could just buy one 13mm tool with the 0 on one end and ratchet on the other.
The reason the VIM boys did it this way is to avoid warranty claims. They want you to brake it free with the 0 end and switch sizes to the ratchet end. If you do double ratchets then most will just brake with the ratchet end which might break the wrench itself.
I think the 0 and ratchet on one is a good idea for the other reason of only buying the sizes you need
Thicker beams that don't flex so bad would be welcome. I've about turned my Genius XL DBE's into pretzels on a few occasions. Cornwell used to have one that was comfortable and strong.
Genius/Cornwell:
I've got an extra long DBE ratcheting box combo that was broke but I fixed it. Figured that extra reach might come in handy, but I wouldn't trust it for high torque situations.
Now a flex ratchet end with a solid box end - a set like that would be nice. And thicker beams like the Cornwell pictured.
People with more money than knowledge, or maybe people who just hate Snap On but will still fork out $hundreds on imported tools.
Nutria
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For me, it's about access, not leverage.
Ohio Andy
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My open-ended ratcheting wrenches are standard size And reversible... (Proto).
My double-sided flexible are long pattern from tecton can both SAE and metric, and I wanted them for access and sometimes I like to have the extra torque... Those are not reversible.
I also have some open-ended with reversible ratcheting on the other end that are flexible. One set is snap-on.... But I wanted the smaller sets to get into tighter spaces.
"More Dollars than Sense"
That too...