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BDSax

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one thing i noticed is you need bushings on connectors 1" and over. noticed some in the panel. also you shoudnt have any outlets in for a rough inspection. they need to see inside the boxes.

Inspectors are funny. some are super nice and others are monsters. some also hate owner builder projects. doing all the unnecessary nail plate and over strapping show an inspector that you care and know somewhat of what your doing. overall i think it looks pretty good.

i would ask the inspector about gfis when he comes for the rough inspection. may allow you to not use one for a fridge. worst case change after the final
 

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I thought a fridge would trip gfci outlets pretty regularly. Is that not the case?

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So, I've wired all of my recept circuits as 20amp and GFCI, well the garage opener is on a 15amp GFCI - all receptacles, no GFCI breakers. Now, I was hesitant at first, but I have not had one nuisance trip in the last year or so.

I have a Danby kegerator plugged directly into one and it's been on the entire time.

Just today the snow plow yanked my outside extension cord out of the garage (which was under the door charging the old lady's truck) and it didn't even trip it!!! lol
 
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one thing i noticed is you need bushings on connectors 1" and over. noticed some in the panel. also you shoudnt have any outlets in for a rough inspection. they need to see inside the boxes.

Inspectors are funny. some are super nice and others are monsters. some also hate owner builder projects. doing all the unnecessary nail plate and over strapping show an inspector that you care and know somewhat of what your doing. overall i think it looks pretty good.

Okay, not sure what you're referring to with the bushings. My conduits are smaller than 1". What do I need and where do I get it, and where would I put it?

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one thing i noticed is you need bushings on connectors 1" and over. noticed some in the panel. also you shoudnt have any outlets in for a rough inspection. they need to see inside the boxes.

Inspectors are funny. some are super nice and others are monsters. some also hate owner builder projects. doing all the unnecessary nail plate and over strapping show an inspector that you care and know somewhat of what your doing. overall i think it looks pretty good.

i would ask the inspector about gfis when he comes for the rough inspection. may allow you to not use one for a fridge. worst case change after the final

A bushing is required where there are 4 AWG & larger conductors.
 

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Inspectors are funny. some are super nice and others are monsters. some also hate owner builder projects. doing all the unnecessary nail plate and over strapping show an inspector that you care and know somewhat of what your doing. overall i think it looks pretty good.

That's the truth. Some friends had me paranoid about our local inspectors. They couldn't have been nicer. As for things mentioned in the this thread, I have a GFCI outlet in the ceiling for the openers; wasn't a problem.

Someone mentioned taking your outlets out for rough inspection. You might want to just unscrew them and let them hang out (main breaker OFF of course)! That's what I did. The funny part was at the rough inspection he said "man, if these were screwed in you could power up and I'd sign off on final."

Good luck!
 
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After my previous dealings with the township, I'll be incredibly surprised if I can even get the inspector to show up. He'll probably just sign off. His roof inspections were drivebys, that probably never happened. After calling twice, they still never showed up to inspect my water heater install. From people I've talked to, calls to get inspected typically result in the inspector saying stuff like, "did you do something wrong? Then why do you want me to come out and inspect?".

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I've got to ask....understanding that rules are different everywhere. I'm involved with rough-in electrical at the moment as well...rough-in here where I live means no connections at the panel and no finished recepticals wired. Just runs through walls/ceilings...pulled thru outlet/switch boxes...for typical ceiling fl's I leave 16" drops near where they'll go into the fixture. I hope you are not set for an issue with the inspector.
 

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I may well be looking at it wrong, but your first picture tells me you're gonna fail your inspection. You can't run Romex or nm on the outside surface of a stud...

Tommy
 
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I'm a building official in Texas. I can't say whether or not everything is perfect in your pics or not (that's why QUALITY inspectors actually make inspections). I will say this, I look at a lot of electrical installations done by Journeymen and Master electricians and sadly the vast majority don't look anywhere close to as good as what I see here. You shouldn't have a problem with the inspector.:thumbup:
 
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I may well be looking at it wrong, but your first picture tells me you're gonna fail your inspection. You can't run Romex or nm on the outside surface of a stud...

Tommy

What picture are you looking at? What post and picture number?

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I think he is talking about the first picture on the first post. It looks like the wires come out of the panel and are stapled to the outside if that stud.
 

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I may well be looking at it wrong, but your first picture tells me you're gonna fail your inspection. You can't run Romex or nm on the outside surface of a stud...

Tommy

He said he was going to build a chase.

So, I've moved a 60 amp sub panel from my basement to my garage, and wired up 18 20 amp outlets, and two 50 amp outlets. I must say, I've learned a lot about electrical. I'm planning on calling for an inspection soon. If anyone notices any problems, please let me know. Every outlet works. Every 120v garage circuit is chained off of a GFCI. I've verified GFCI functionality of every outlet with my little tester. I'm getting 240v from my 50 amp outlets with my multimeter. This was my first time working with electrical other than replacing an outlet or a switch. While I hope that everything is to code, I am sure I'm violating code somewhere.

Here is my panel. I'm going to build a chase cover between the panel and the wall cavity using OSB to keep the wires protected. My plan is to make it removable.

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You have to read it all before posting.

Oh wait. my NY's resolution was to be less critical.

Nevermind.
 
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FarmerPete

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Final update. Inspector DID actually show up, which was a shock. He spent maybe 5 minutes in the house start to finish, but he did approve it. Looks like I'm good to go for insulation and OSB. With -8F temps outside, that insulation can't come fast enough.
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Mustang51js

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Just to make it easier for you, you should remove the switches and outlets from the box and let them hang out. People have a habit of making the holes to big or putting the Sheetrock on top of the outlet edges and then they are recessed in the wall and hard to get out.
 

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Yeah u just want the tabs of the outlet on the outside of the osb, otherwise they will be recessed into it and won't be able to get the covers on. I see it more often than you would think.
 
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