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As mentioned in another thread (about Property Brothers) I'm trying to nail down a floor plan for the living quarters that will make up the back third of my retirement home/shop (see my sig.). Pictured is my first try with design software I bought off eBay.

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I haven't yet figured out how to label the rooms; so I'll describe. On the left is the entrance. To the right is the living room, surrounded by half walls. To ther left is a home office. Nest on the right is the dining area, with sliding glass door leading to a deck. To the left is the exit into the showroom/party area, and neext to it is a guest bedroom. Next to that is a guest bath, followed by laundry/utility room, and second door to outside. To the right of that is the Master Suite, which I'm still having trouble getting right...

I need some ideas on how to lay out that suite. We would like a decent sized bathroom with 2-seat shower and whirlpool tub; enough room for Queen bed and dressers, plus decent closet space. And, we want the whole suite to be able to close off from the rest of the house with one door. I can't figure out where to put everything within the space, or how to properly partition off the bath from the bedroom.

I still need to locate the boiler, hot water heater, and electrical panel. I think there's enough room for all of that in the utility room, but not sure yet.

Would love to hear what you all think, and any ideas and suggestions.
 
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My first thoughts are a window for the guest room and I thought that bedrooms had to have closets, but not sure on that.
 
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The software is called Turbo FloorPlan 3D Home and Landscape Deluxe. It was recommended in a link from my other thread. Price shown was $99, I bought it off eBay, brand new, for $22 including shipping. Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/170963218455?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

The guest room wall borders on the wall adjoining the showroom, so not logical for a window. If code insists, I'll have to put one in. All bedrooms do have closets, that's the long rectangle.
 

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My suggestion would be to wander some of the manufactured home sites and review some of there layouts. One thing I see on your plan is that guests have to come out of the bedroom through the dining to the bath. move the guest BR door to the east wall. I also am a fan of having all the plumbing in the same area. Consider backing the baths up to each other. Why the door and entrance hall on the north wall? It seems to take a lot of space. Where is the shop area in relationship to this layout?

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IMHO, remove the wall between the entrance and the living room. That will make it feel bigger, and really be bigger.

Also, move the wall for the wall for the bedroom adjacent to the kitchen/dining room towards the middle by about 2'. That will give the room some real useable space, but not impact the kitchen/dining room significantly.

IMHO, doing both of those will open up the main spaces, and give the second bedroom some much needed room.

Otherwise, the layout looks pretty good, and should make some great living space.

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I'd swap the master bath with your laundry for a large walk in that can also house your laundry and a nice ensuite. That would probably improve the entry to your to the guest bath.

Will your office have built ins? As for the guest bedroom, I believe you couldn't resell and call that room a bedroom, but since your office has a window you/future owners can just swap those rooms. So I personally wouldn't be too worked over it.
 

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Please take this with a grain of salt.
First all exterior doors should be at least 3-0{36"wide} You will thank me when you have move large stuff in or out.
Next I don't know about you but my shmbo would not live in a house with no bedroom door.
+X2 on back up all "wet walls" as close as possible to keep plumbing price down.
The hall to the showroom does not need to be so wide.Consider putting that door in office.
Lose the empty space in the middle and combine the living room and kitchen into one big great room.Think party and entertaining.
All bed rooms by code have to have at least one egress window.
I would move the guest room to the living room and make the laundry room smaller.
Master bedroom needs one big or two seperate walk in closets.
If I had a cad program I would sketch it out for you.
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If you back both bathrooms and the kitchen up to a common wall you simplifly your plumbing significantly. I see the two large spaces near the entry and the door to the showroom as basically unusable space.

I like open floor plans and elegant design, take a look at some books about mid century modernist architecture, Taschen has a couple that are specifically geared towards small spaces. I had a 600 square foot apartment from 1959 that felt enormous and a 1200 square foot house from 1997 that felt uncomfortably cramped; the difference was i
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After going back and looking at your introductory post and drawing, I will post again. If your apt is adjacent to the showroom/gathering area then would you not want the bedroom away from the showroom wall so it some one is sleeping while the showroom is open? If the showroom hosts people then would you not want the kitchen close to it to prepare food and such? What about access to a bathroom from the showroom. In my house we have a dirty entry that allows us to come in, shuck dirty boots and overalls, and then direct into a bath. You may have this covered with a shower and toilet in the the other end of the fab shop.
Can you share your vision of how people will have access to this building? I'm assuming you will have customers, friends, employees, and others. Will any of these people have access to private living quarters? Will you share kitchen/bath with the showroom or will the showroom have separate facilities? In your introductory post you referred to a second level of living, where are the stairs?

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Fantastic comments, all! I will make sure to respond to everyone that took the time to respond; it might take a day or so but I will answer ALL your suggestions in the order posted.

My suggestion would be to wander some of the manufactured home sites and review some of there layouts. One thing I see on your plan is that guests have to come out of the bedroom through the dining to the bath. move the guest BR door to the east wall. I also am a fan of having all the plumbing in the same area. Consider backing the baths up to each other. Why the door and entrance hall on the north wall? It seems to take a lot of space. Where is the shop area in relationship to this layout?

We have a mobile/modular home sales lot nearby that unlocks every unit and turns on the lights in ther morning, and anyone is free to stop in and wander through any/all the units without a salesman (great way to do business!), so the first thing I did is go there and walk through EVERY unit, taking pictures of anything I liked. So that suggestion was spot on. I got a lot of the elements in this floorplan from doing that.

I thought about the guest bath issue, but I didn't want to make guests that weren't using the bedroom have to go through it to get to the can; and that would by far be the majority of the guest bath use; and I didn't see room enough for two separate entry doors. Need to think on that some more; especially since your suggestion about grouping the plumbing makes good sense.

North wall door is into the showroom. This will have a few restored cars plus my automobilia displayed, and will be a spillover for parties. Regular use will be interior entrance to showroom and stairs for 2nd floor gameroom. On the other end of the showroom will be another door for the workshop. I dream of walking from home to shop with no boots, no jacket on snowy days:)
 
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IMHO, remove the wall between the entrance and the living room. That will make it feel bigger, and really be bigger.

Also, move the wall for the wall for the bedroom adjacent to the kitchen/dining room towards the middle by about 2'. That will give the room some real useable space, but not impact the kitchen/dining room significantly.

IMHO, doing both of those will open up the main spaces, and give the second bedroom some much needed room.

Otherwise, the layout looks pretty good, and should make some great living space.

Jim- I saw that LR wall as a half wall, both to break off the LR into its own nook, and to cut drafts from the door opening. I did think about narrowing the entrance hallway, moving the entry door, and making the LR bigger.

Haven't yet figured out how, but I wanted to put more counter along the east edge of the kitchen. So I'd need room for that. Maybe if I rotate the DR table 90 degrees?

Definitely need more thought on that end of the house...
 
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I'd swap the master bath with your laundry for a large walk in that can also house your laundry and a nice ensuite. That would probably improve the entry to your to the guest bath.

Will your office have built ins? As for the guest bedroom, I believe you couldn't resell and call that room a bedroom, but since your office has a window you/future owners can just swap those rooms. So I personally wouldn't be too worked over it.

I was going for the Master BR and bath being combined separate from the rest of the space, almost like a separate apartment/sanctuary. I haven't yet figured out exactly how to configure those walls and doors. The idea is to close one door and have the whole suite closed off from the rest, leaving the utility and its door open to traffic.

No built-ins in office; just my U-shaped work station, which I love. That would allow easy conversion to a BR for some later owner. Thanks for the input!
 
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Please take this with a grain of salt.
First all exterior doors should be at least 3-0{36"wide} You will thank me when you have move large stuff in or out.
Next I don't know about you but my shmbo would not live in a house with no bedroom door.
+X2 on back up all "wet walls" as close as possible to keep plumbing price down.
The hall to the showroom does not need to be so wide.Consider putting that door in office.
Lose the empty space in the middle and combine the living room and kitchen into one big great room.Think party and entertaining.
All bed rooms by code have to have at least one egress window.
I would move the guest room to the living room and make the laundry room smaller.
Master bedroom needs one big or two seperate walk in closets.
If I had a cad program I would sketch it out for you.
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Thanks. I intended for the entry doors to be 36" but must have selected wrong. Want the entire space to be wheelchair accessible if needed. I'll fix that.

Absolutely will have Master Suite door. Still having trouble figuring out exactly how to configure that whole area.

You're right about the showroom hall; too wide. I'll fix that. But I wouldn't want visitors/guests to have to go through the office every time they go to/from.

Definitely want an open floor plan; that's why the K and D are combined like that, plus half walls around LR. That South wall will have the sliding glass door plus need a window over the K sink, which is why they're side by side like that. But you're right, it doesn't really make balanced use of the space. Still needs work...

GR/LR swap is interesting; I might play with that a bit. I just thought that would make the entrance cooped up and uninviting.

All BRs do have closets, the narrow rectangles with dark bar.
 
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If you back both bathrooms and the kitchen up to a common wall you simplifly your plumbing significantly. I see the two large spaces near the entry and the door to the showroom as basically unusable space.

I like open floor plans and elegant design, take a look at some books about mid century modernist architecture, Taschen has a couple that are specifically geared towards small spaces. I had a 600 square foot apartment from 1959 that felt enormous and a 1200 square foot house from 1997 that felt uncomfortably cramped; the difference was i
n the architecture.

Yes on trying to simplify plumbing. Got to think about that more. Same with the entry spaces.

I will be doing more reading. I have all winter to tweak this floor plan:thumbup:
 
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After going back and looking at your introductory post and drawing, I will post again. If your apt is adjacent to the showroom/gathering area then would you not want the bedroom away from the showroom wall so it some one is sleeping while the showroom is open? If the showroom hosts people then would you not want the kitchen close to it to prepare food and such? What about access to a bathroom from the showroom. In my house we have a dirty entry that allows us to come in, shuck dirty boots and overalls, and then direct into a bath. You may have this covered with a shower and toilet in the the other end of the fab shop.
Can you share your vision of how people will have access to this building? I'm assuming you will have customers, friends, employees, and others. Will any of these people have access to private living quarters? Will you share kitchen/bath with the showroom or will the showroom have separate facilities? In your introductory post you referred to a second level of living, where are the stairs?

Well, the GBR does border the SR, but it's not a public place, so nobody would be in the SR while someone's trying to sleep.

Kitchen- Ideally yes, but she wants the sink with window on the South wall, and it's rare that we'll be carting much food to the SR anyway.

EXCELLENT idea about guest bath entrance from SR. I thought about a separate half bath out there but this might be a better idea, if I can find the room for two doors.

Access will be through the two end doors, which will have roofs over, like carports. SR and shop will also have separate entries. It won't be a business, but I can always close off the residence and just use the other entrances if needed.

Upstairs over this is planned a gameroom/media room. Stairs will be from the SR. There will be a mini theater, pool table, poker table, bar, and another half bath at least. Might make a guest suite up there too. But that's down the road.

One goal is to make sure all our needed living space is together on one floor. That way, the shop, SR, and gameroom could go with little or no heat and just live cheaply in the apt. if health/age preclude using any of it. Separate heat zones for all.
 

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By code, and bedrooms are required to have a means of egress. (A door or window to the outside.) That is why bedrooms are always on exterior walls. Plus, a bedroom without a window would be like sleeping in a cave.
 
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By code, and bedrooms are required to have a means of egress. (A door or window to the outside.) That is why bedrooms are always on exterior walls. Plus, a bedroom without a window would be like sleeping in a cave.

I wondered about that. Maybe I can just call that the office instead? It's either that or rethink the whole floorplan. I don't want a guest room directly adjacent to the Master Suite.
 

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It appears the bathrooms have a six inch wide walking path in front of the sinks, and the toilet in the guest bath has no footroom. Also, the door to the guest bath creates a choke point in the hallway when it's open (I understand this is just a first draft.)

The hallways at the main door and at the entry to the showroom are awfully wide for spaces that are only used for walking through them. Also, there's a big blank space right in the center of the building - people will be in the living room, sitting at the table or working in the kitchen, but otherwise there's a big spot the size of a whole room that is essentially unused.
 
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Also, there's a big blank space right in the center of the building - people will be in the living room, sitting at the table or working in the kitchen, but otherwise there's a big spot the size of a whole room that is essentially unused.

I know, I can't figure out how to address that. When I use the 3D and "walk around" in there, it doesn't look bad though.

I think about homes where I've attended parties, and regardless of design people tend to congregate mostly in the kitchen. No matter what. I picture the LR as mostly for our use, and for a few natural stragglers during gatherings, but I want room where people don't necessarily have to break off into separate groups due to an overcrowded kitchen. So I was going for room to let everyone be near the kitchen and the DR table with a buffet laid out, but have room to fan out while not having to leave the group. Does that make any sense?

Of course, the percentage of total occupation time that is for entertaining is pretty small. I have to make something that's right for us for everyday use, but comfortable for the occasional entertaining. I guess that's why people who do this for a living get paid the big bucks:)

Anyway, I've got all winter to get this worked out. Keep the comments coming!
 
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I wondered about that. Maybe I can just call that the office instead? It's either that or rethink the whole floorplan. I don't want a guest room directly adjacent to the Master Suite.

Unfortunately they won't care what you call it. If it can likely be used as a bedroom, they will make it meet code for a bedroom.
 

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I wondered about that. Maybe I can just call that the office instead? It's either that or rethink the whole floorplan. I don't want a guest room directly adjacent to the Master Suite.

Maybe swap the living room with the guest bedroom? Or at least till they give you approval;)
 

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Seems like a lot of open space in the center…if that is what you want that is fine, also depends on other things.

I would really recommend talking and listing out what you want with the place and putting it in order (maybe it is in your other post).

Couple things I noticed of concern:

Bathrooms – spaces for walking and using seem really tight
Lack of closets
Watch those dimensions, some are to the exterior wall and some are to the centerline; this may not seem like a big deal but it can add up.

Some questions and things to think about:

Which way is North? What is the main entrance? What door do you use the most? What spaces do you want to be private and which to be public? What buildings are close (yours and neighbors) and where are they located N, S, E, or W? Any views that you want to take advantage of?
 
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I think you would be better off if you picked up some of those magazines with house plans in them, and looked for the ones that would fit your approximate square footage (looks like about 1500 sq ft?). This would help to give you an idea of space usage and functionality of layout. You could incorporate the one you like, or parts of different ones, into your plan.
 
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Seems like a lot of open space in the center…if that is what you want that is fine, also depends on other things.

I would really recommend talking and listing out what you want with the place and putting it in order (maybe it is in your other post).

Couple things I noticed of concern:

Bathrooms – spaces for walking and using seem really tight
Lack of closets
Watch those dimensions, some are to the exterior wall and some are to the centerline; this may not seem like a big deal but it can add up.

Some questions and things to think about:

Which way is North? What is the main entrance? What door do you use the most? What spaces do you want to be private and which to be public? What buildings are close (yours and neighbors) and where are they located N, S, E, or W? Any views that you want to take advantage of?

Agree with your comments, except each room does already have a closet; that's the long thin rectangle.

Answers, in order: Top of the drawing is North. Main entrance is on the West wall, by LR. This is my home/shop, so none is "public", except to the extent I have company. There are no neigbors anywhere nearby. It's a wooded lot with a clearing, so no views other than woods.
 

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Your bathroom areas all look WAY to tight. It looks like there is no room to move. It's nice to try and set the toilet in the back of a 3x3 square. Lots of room that way. In a 6' wide bathroom you'll never have room for the toilet to be across from the vanity.
 
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I think you would be better off if you picked up some of those magazines with house plans in them, and looked for the ones that would fit your approximate square footage (looks like about 1500 sq ft?). This would help to give you an idea of space usage and functionality of layout. You could incorporate the one you like, or parts of different ones, into your plan.

Yeah, I've got more work to do there. I've been reading books and magazines and searching the web for some time, as well as going through several mod homes at the sales lots, which is how I got this far. I bought and am teaching myself this software, which is helping. I'm still looking, and this thread is part of that evolution.

When this thing is finally built, everyone that helped here will be invited to a big party. I will supply all the food and beer, and I'll fly each and every one of you in at my expense. That is my pledge to you.

Well, maybe all except for the plane tickets:)
 
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Your bathroom areas all look WAY to tight. It looks like there is no room to move. It's nice to try and set the toilet in the back of a 3x3 square. Lots of room that way. In a 6' wide bathroom you'll never have room for the toilet to be across from the vanity.

True, good points. I still have to work on that. Since that picture I have tinkered with that some and improved it a little. Sometime this week I'll be incorporating the suggestions and rework things, and post the next version.
 
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I wish I could draw worth a dam, I have done this and seen it done. This is limited scope, a fitting of rooms into a box and integrated with Sales and guests we got no idea about lifestyle, frequency of guests, age, joint pain etc. When building in a shop part of the idea is that the infrastructure and many of the utilities can be asorbed by the structure to some extent where building space is less expensive, now we got 2 floors etc and some of the things ylou think wont be so once you hit the floor or occupy.


I would start over,,,,,,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! An advantage is this is an integrated structure , what are the real numbers, how many kids you got to visit etc, business guests? I would put well planned integrated public bathroom with utilities, as a man I would use this, if traffic was light make it uni *** with partitioned urinal and would make convenient master bath/bedroom, night service for the wife etc. I wouldnt even use it. I would use the utility bathrooms and the urinal 95% of the time, about any time I didnt piss outside.

As was eluded to earlier, I read some,,, make all this down stairs on one level, get rid of these walls to start with, leave it all open back the kitchen plumbing to the master bath, possibly a second water heater here and on second floor build loft and storage for guest with simple bathroom, laundry sink, lab, fiberglass shower stall with layout and plumbing chase over the master/kitchen from the first floor. You only need 2 rooms on 2nd to start with, allows the whole down to be tailored to "living, gives privacy to 2nd floor, comfort, low maint, people usually over estimate guests, and this puts it out of the way. It allows wash basin for shop to happen _pre bathroom entrance, can put laundry out of the way, most people do not mind utilitatian bathroom, friends guests as long as it is tidy. It also allows master to stay private.

The point is the software is good but the mind hasnt come along with this project yet, one of the reasons to do this kind of building is you can fabricate convenience, good traffic flow etc the drawing is looking at one place, thing, layer at a time, not much relationship to the rest of the building, the relationship of property, where people park, the view one may want, the frequency of visitors, both public and private etc and to some extent the climate and habits of the people occupying the place, number of residents, particular medical concerns, generaql age, how much money you got, how nice you need it,,, I love laundry tubs etc, maybe that wouldnt do, Personally would generally design the second floor, general first floor, kitchen bath, entrance exit approach, stairs bath locations, put in the master suite with kitchen on other side and move in,,, ha
 
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this is first floor. I forgot stairs,couple ways of doing it. This is keeping doors in general location. study could be small??? computer desk tv, shelves library etc. This allows windows, and house guest on second floor with other possibilities, storage,,, overhead vs a basement in conventional house, but all the living by the main occupants on first. and the second could be modified since pipe chase exists, add kitchenette etc, a bar, , game room
 

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I think about homes where I've attended parties, and regardless of design people tend to congregate mostly in the kitchen. No matter what.

Funny how that works - you could have a party in a giant mansion, and everyone is still going to gather right in the tightest spot in the kitchen. :)
 

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I built and lived in mine for 12 years I guess. I love my floor plan, made only a couple minor mistakes and considering the duty cycle/traffic in that area not worth fixing. The uni *** bathroom enters from inside my office, it has laundry and the hand wash sink is backed up to the laundry sink in the shop. Above to the right of the door is a bathroom for upstairs, shower stall, stool sink. I don't have a good pic of kitchenette in the office/entrance to bathroom (in this case no shower downstairs, only simple stall on second floor) but kitchen with fridge on floor in my office backed up to bathroom wall and my office being one room. The upstairs is bigger than the down, , it was unused space and a nice feature but way more space than I needed for bedroom.TV, sofa, divider for bathroom.

At the time,,, I never thought it would be 12 yrs but it was super duper handy dandy and as convenient as it could get. I finally removed a stove I didn't use anyway,,, ha but I have cloths hanger system, all worked out was sd easy with it all under one roof as it could get, windows were not an option I needed, was never there during daylight anyway. I about could have slid with less air cond than I had (some changes since) but was dating and on occasion a Sunday after noon was just too hot to knock off a piece in the middle of the day. When I was getting married wife was not going with this scheme though.

Something of the nature I mention about use,,, the sink P makes this really work. In general the only time bathroom is used for that is when its needed, all the regular traffic is funneled thru this with another place to wash hands. In fact no door, a privacy sheet, dont even notice it or anyone using the unit unless yolu look and know its there. Can only see someone standing there from back corner of the shop.
 

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My stuff is really crude, what is highly refined is the floor plan for the nature of the work/lifestyle. Guests come and go on occasion but I got to piss regular for the rest of my life and wash my hands, do laundry I want it as easy as I can get it.

I had old friend stop over the other day. Last time I saw him was he worked for me maybe saw some of the finished building but yesterday came, hung out, walked around a bit and said,,, efficiency. In my case its that over fancy, can do that too and any time after but the floor plan, doors are crucial. Good architect and or consultant is worth the juice maybe depending on the cost of all this and if mistakes may be costly etc.

I have changed a lot of this, pics often from old file, mostly small things, remove that equipment to another building and build shelves on end wall etc. But the basic "geometry" is really good, its a natural move to everything, about as good as it can get.
 
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Hospital bathrooms are stupid, the public ones. One of the major ones here used to have a real nice one off lobby with urinals, some redsign but it in azzhole spot, none of the minor public ones off the waiting rooms have urinals stupid, each floor needed a walk in mens with pisser or 2 with divider and stall vs lock in to a stool and sink with piss everywhere, up keep must have added janitors from hell.

My "public" bathroom in my shop isnt spotless but just a bit of routine work, few minutes a weel with a brush and couple paper towels keep it from being embarrasing, no one minds its not better homes and gardens,,, easy to keep the other one clean if guys are not using it to wash greasy hands and piss.

My crowd isnt the intentional piss on the floor type anyway but the 90% reduction in traffic just to take a whiz reduce the need for at least one extra bathroom, uni *** is fine here, your milage may vary.
 

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In my case the office is not in the back in the loft like a cave or snake trail to get to it but right off the front entrance of the building at ground level, close to coffee pot, walk in entrance door past to shop or turn and go in to office, none of the traffic destined for shop goes thru it.

When I am in there I can see all movement into the building theu the front and people walking by are not interuption. What I knew were ideas that I saw in to other general buildings that didnt really work out as planned,,, like I didnt need window for pass thru info to the shop but coffee was a big issue etc.

The waste and ineffediency is natural human traffic, I really worked it out for the intent about as good as I could, general improvements to this would be rather minor considering traffic flow as it is. The place is like a pair of vise grips with some modification, I can live with things I do on occasion with inconvenience or extra bother but the hi moves humans make can be increased for left handed infrastructure for sure.
 
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Agree with your comments, except each room does already have a closet; that's the long thin rectangle.

Answers, in order: Top of the drawing is North. Main entrance is on the West wall, by LR. This is my home/shop, so none is "public", except to the extent I have company. There are no neigbors anywhere nearby. It's a wooded lot with a clearing, so no views other than woods.

closets - sorry missed those.

sorry when I said public vs private I was meaning areas that you would have company in as public, private only those for you or people living there. Knowing this can help you decide your layout, that is if it is something you care about.

I ask about the entrance that you use the most because it might help you layout where you want your laundry room and maybe the 2nd bathroom.

Main/Company (if different) entrance because it might tell you what you want them to see when they walk in the door or what you don't want people to see walking up (although it sounds like you won't have many people just knocking at your door).

Hope any of my thoughts help.
 

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• Consider your door swings; best to have them open to a wall rather that into traffic area. For instance, I would flip the (3) upper right doors.
• Entryway to the showroom seems excessively wide- some of that space might be better use in the bathroom to the right (or elsewhere).
• Hallways -if not absolutely necc- tend to be a waste of space. Master Bath: consider swinging the sinks to the 'north' wall and adding the door in their place, then delete the master suite hall- adding that space elsewhere.
 
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bams50

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sorry when I said public vs private I was meaning areas that you would have company in as public, private only those for you or people living there. Knowing this can help you decide your layout, that is if it is something you care about.

I ask about the entrance that you use the most because it might help you layout where you want your laundry room and maybe the 2nd bathroom.

Main/Company (if different) entrance because it might tell you what you want them to see when they walk in the door or what you don't want people to see walking up (although it sounds like you won't have many people just knocking at your door).

Hope any of my thoughts help.

I think most of it will be like anyone else's home, open to guests save for the master suite.

Entrance on the left (west) wall is the main entrance.
 
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bams50

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• Consider your door swings; best to have them open to a wall rather that into traffic area. For instance, I would flip the (3) upper right doors.
• Entryway to the showroom seems excessively wide- some of that space might be better use in the bathroom to the right (or elsewhere).
• Hallways -if not absolutely necc- tend to be a waste of space. Master Bath: consider swinging the sinks to the 'north' wall and adding the door in their place, then delete the master suite hall- adding that space elsewhere.

All good points. Will be working on a redo this week.
 
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