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Garage5.9

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first time ever posting so let me start off by introducing my self.
I come from paradise to some people (Hawaii).Worked at a acura stealership for
a few years then recently started at sos metals then got laid off. ok enough about me here goes.

i recently acquired a electronic cross walk sign. (no i didnt steal it) but any
way heres my question has any one ever wired one of these up ? i opened it up
and it has a IC board and a bunch of led's. 3 wires running out of it (brown,red and white). If any one has any experience with these things please let me know.

aloha , jesse


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That light is supposed to conform to a specific set of specifications for traffic signals: http://www.suffolk.va.us/pub_wks/traffic/DeveloperTools/LED%20Pedestrian%20and%20Countdown%20Signal%20Specs.pdf The interesting thing is the specs say there are supposed to be three wires, but the wire colors are different than that particular light...it's probably safe to assume the white is the common/neutral wire, and the other two are hots - you hook up one or the other to light up either the hand and countdown digits, or the walking person.

5.1.2 The following color scheme shall be used for the module’s AC power leads: Orange for the upraised hand and countdown digits, Blue for the walking person, and White for common.
5.1.3 So as to reduce crowding of terminal blocks and housings, modules containing a Hand & Person Overlay display as well as a Countdown Timer display shall have only three wires (1 orange, 1 blue, 1 white) exiting the LED module for electrical connection to intersection field wires.
 

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Here's a spec from New York State that does match the color codes you have:
https://www.nysdot.gov/divisions/op...tems/repository/Pedcountdownspecs02-09-09.pdf

White is neutral, apply 120VAC between white and red for the hand, apply 120VAC to white and brown for the walking man/countdown timer. The module is intended to replaces same-form-factor "dumb" incandescent lamps.

It should be noted the signal has an internal microprocessor that attempts to learn what the traffic signal controller is doing. It expects the AC inputs to cycle between "walk" and "don't walk" in a repeating, predictable way. This is how it determines the starting value of the countdown timer. If power is interrupted the signal stays dark for one full cycle as it learns what the repeating interval is. This processor may get in your way if you try to manually light the pedestrian signal by hooking up the wires to a manual switch or wall plug. The sign may stay dark even though it would be completely functional in its intended environment.
 

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The interesting thing is if you plug the full part number for that light into Google, the majority of hits are for various state specifications. I found the official ITE specs, and the link to the State of Virginia specs I linked to seemed to match them so I didn't look at any others. Maybe the New York specs are updated or something.

I've done some traffic signal design in the past, and they really, really want everything to be uniform...same color wires, same terminal strip numbers, even the schematics have to be drawn so they follow a specific example.
 
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thanks guys maybe ill try contact the company and see what happends. If not ill hook up some power and hopefully no magic smoke comes out of the box.
 

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Nice find! Hee's a pic of mine that uses regular 25 watt incandescent bulbs. I purchased a sequencer for it from www.trafficlights.com several years ago. Not sure if they are still in business, but the part was reasonably priced and easy to install. I've also got a 1950's neon Walk-Wait sign awaiting restoration. Good luck with your project!

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Nice find! Hee's a pic of mine that uses regular 25 watt incandescent bulbs. I purchased a sequencer for it from www.trafficlights.com several years ago. Not sure if they are still in business, but the part was reasonably priced and easy to install. I've also got a 1950's neon Walk-Wait sign awaiting restoration. Good luck with your project!

Jim

nice shop and signs/lights. Hopefully i can get mine working correctly too. would be cool if could get my hands on the switch too.
 

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Jesse, this is my first post on this board. I am in the signal repair business. You have what we call a hand and man ped indication. The white wire is neutral, the other two your hot wires. Connect either or both to 120vac to have the indication come on. One hot wire is hand the other is the man
 

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I looked at your pix again and realized that you have a signal with a countdown timer indication. I am not sure you can make that portion work,however the hand/man should still work. Typically the hand fails first because it is active most of the time.
 
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That's pretty cool, have you thought about wiring the "Don't Walk" to a switch so when someone opens the gaage door the 'Don't Walk" flashes on/off?

thanks. yup was just thinking about using the garage door light bulb to trigger the "dont walk" portion of it i just got to get me one of those sockets that screws in to the bulb socket. This is gonna be awesome when its done
 

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I know a fella up here who has his place full of such devices. Traffic lights and railroad stuff galore ..... all hooked up and functional.

He has a railroad crossing arm set up on his driveway complete with the moving crossarm...lights..... and bells. And to top it off he has a remote controller wired into the system ..I think it was a garage door remote ... so that he can turn it on from anywhere on the property.
 
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thats pretty cool. some pics would be awesome if you could get them. Im on a mission now to find a traffic light now. I plan on making the cross walk and traffic light function some what how it would on the street
 
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So i acquired another cross walk sign and got it up and running in no time thanks to this thread. I wont mention how i got it but no i didn't steal it off the post

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On the first light the man and the hand are on the left side. What is supposed to be on the right side? Does it light up?

The right side has a count down timer. Starts at something like 15 seconds and counts down, then the hand comes on at zero. Like they said, its intelligent and learns the traffic light timing and varies the countdown to match this.

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The right side has a count down timer. Starts at something like 15 seconds and counts down, then the hand comes on at zero. Like they said, its intelligent and learns the traffic light timing and varies the countdown to match this.

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