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CS6364 vs LL550

Ramper

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Are these two the same? My new generator inlet says I need a CS6364, but it seems the same as the LL550
 
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What is the origin/primary use of these "California Standard" plugs and connectors?
 

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I haven't heard of California Standard connectors either, but found this on another online forum:

"I believe the California plug gets its name from being developed as a safer connector for the early days of the Hollywood Film Studios. The first hi-ampereage connectors used in the studios were paddle plugs used in theatres, which were ungrounded. The California plug was grounded by the outer steel shroud, which also protected the male contact pins from damage when the cables are dragged around the set every day. The grounded shroud helps absorb the Arc-Flash if the connector is plugged or unplugged while energized. The paddle plug was notoriously dangerous for Arc-Flashes, especially in the older DC powered Theatres in the first years of electric lighting for the stage! "

Considering that the original poster is in Minnesota, I'd say that designation isn't necessary.
 

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I haven't heard of California Standard connectors either, but found this on another online forum:

"I believe the California plug gets its name from being developed as a safer connector for the early days of the Hollywood Film Studios. The first hi-ampereage connectors used in the studios were paddle plugs used in theatres, which were ungrounded. The California plug was grounded by the outer steel shroud, which also protected the male contact pins from damage when the cables are dragged around the set every day. The grounded shroud helps absorb the Arc-Flash if the connector is plugged or unplugged while energized. The paddle plug was notoriously dangerous for Arc-Flashes, especially in the older DC powered Theatres in the first years of electric lighting for the stage! "

Considering that the original poster is in Minnesota, I'd say that designation isn't necessary.


Thanks Stuart - sounds plausible!

If the OP has a gen with only a CS style recept, he'll need the mating CS plug on his cord to connect to the gen. From that point he's got options.
 
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A CS is a NEMA L14-50

They're in common use as feeds to Spider Boxes used for temporary power during construction
 
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A CS is a NEMA L14-50

They're in common use as feeds to Spider Boxes used for temporary power during construction



CS is NOT NEMA. NEMA standards for 50A locking plugs exist, but in the real world, the plugs do not. This is because CS plugs pre-date NEMA standards (they essentially inspired them), and with an effective and safe plug on the market, nobody ever built the incompatible NEMA version.
 

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Are these two the same? My new generator inlet says I need a CS6364, but it seems the same as the LL550

The 2 share the same configuration

The LL550 is a manufacturer's (Reliance part #) specific instance of providing a plug adhering to the CS6364 Plug specification/configuration.

What you connect on the other your 6-4 cord is up to your needs. It could be a NEMA 14-50R straight blade, a CS6365 locking style recept or hardwired into something.
 
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The inlet is a Midwest U050N. I had a cord in my cart at amazon that was under $50, but I waited too long.

The plug itself is close to $50
 
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I now see a NEMA SS2-50R that looks like the same configuration, but without the center pin. I am going to ask my electrician what he thinks, but I thought I would also ask GJ
 
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