I located the break in an alarm wire. I re stripped the wire and twisted the ends. The wire is too thin for a wire nut. What is the best way to keep the connection connected? I do not own a crimper but would buy one if that is the way to go. I do have a heat gun but I am unsure if a shrink tube is the way to go. Guess I could also tape it. Looking for the best way.
Cut alarm wire
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Gary S
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I like these for small wires. Telephone guys use them a lot.
http://www.wiredathome.com/perfect-vision-phone-wire-scotchlock-****-splice-connector-bag-of-100/
http://www.wiredathome.com/perfect-vision-phone-wire-scotchlock-****-splice-connector-bag-of-100/
NewShockerGuy
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+2 on soldering and heatshrinking... I won't do chrimps connectors anymore, other than household lighting fixtures and **** like that...everything else auto related or wiring is all done with soldering and heatshrinking the wire... then I never have to worry about it ever again.
-Nigel
-Nigel
Greatbear
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Solder and heatshrink for inline breaks, solder or crimps sometimes with heatshrink for terminations.
Thanks guys. Guess soldering wins by shear numbers. I have not soldered since shop class about 2o years ago. Should be fun. Wish I was not working over my head. Guess I will break out the little giant ladder and have at it. Is there a particular type of solder I should pick up for this type of lite copper wire?
I would prefer a connector but I have no idea where to get them.
Once I am done I plan on wrapping the whole repair in white electrical tape. (The wire is white) and re securing it to the wall with a u shaped stay. Looks like a U shaped staple but gets hammered in. I need to pick these up as well.
Thanks for the suggestions and ideas guys. Have a good day.
I would prefer a connector but I have no idea where to get them.
Once I am done I plan on wrapping the whole repair in white electrical tape. (The wire is white) and re securing it to the wall with a u shaped stay. Looks like a U shaped staple but gets hammered in. I need to pick these up as well.
Thanks for the suggestions and ideas guys. Have a good day.
premierplayer
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rosin core solder, Radio Shack
jeffmoss26
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Alarm guys just use beanies...
Do you need a special crimper or can you just mash them with a pair of pliers?
Alarm guys just use beanies...
Lotek
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Pliers, they have grease inside to prevent corrosion, would work better than solder in this case.
mikester
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Where are you on the island. I live out east and Ive got a bag of them. I have to go to Amityville tonight. Are you close to there. I can meet you in a parking lot and give you a few !
jeffmoss26
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The white ones are unfilled, the blue ones have gel in them.
Hardware stores may have them, I get mine from the supply house. You can crimp them with linesman pliers. I use my Channellock or Klein crimpers depending which toolbag is with me.
Hardware stores may have them, I get mine from the supply house. You can crimp them with linesman pliers. I use my Channellock or Klein crimpers depending which toolbag is with me.
Thanks so very much for the generous offer. I really appreciate it very much. I actually live in Nassau on the South Shore. I got the wire fixed already just twisted for now and I want to make it a better more permanent repair. I hate when something I fix fails!
Tonight after work, I have to dig the snow blower out of the shed and make sure I can get it started. Looks like we may get dumped on Friday. I will most likely not be able to get out tonight. Out of work at close to 7PM and then I have to deal with the blower and I hope not the generator!!!!!!!
Kind of sill a little scarred from Sandy. Just getting things back in shape.
What ype of work do you do ? or do you just have these around for your own use?
Again, thanks very much for the generous offer.
Jeff
Tonight after work, I have to dig the snow blower out of the shed and make sure I can get it started. Looks like we may get dumped on Friday. I will most likely not be able to get out tonight. Out of work at close to 7PM and then I have to deal with the blower and I hope not the generator!!!!!!!
Kind of sill a little scarred from Sandy. Just getting things back in shape.
What ype of work do you do ? or do you just have these around for your own use?
Again, thanks very much for the generous offer.
Jeff
jeffmoss26
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I do phone wiring, I normally use scotchloks but the beanies come in handy for some wires.
KPSquared
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If you ever break a phone line in your yard, those little beanies are very handy. . .
I cut through one on this garage build. Put all the pairs back together, bought a tube of silicon and cut it open length wise down one side. Then I stuffed the whole splice into the mass of silicon and duct taped the shizz out of it. Stuffed it back in the ground and haven't worried about it since.
Moisture is the enemy if you're trying to send information. . .
I cut through one on this garage build. Put all the pairs back together, bought a tube of silicon and cut it open length wise down one side. Then I stuffed the whole splice into the mass of silicon and duct taped the shizz out of it. Stuffed it back in the ground and haven't worried about it since.
Moisture is the enemy if you're trying to send information. . .
LutzTD
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I would strip enough to bend a "J" in both wires then solder and shrink tube
Falcon67
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I have to mod the dog radio fence once in a while. That's like 24 or 26 ga wire. I just twist the wires and put on a small waterproof sprinkler wire nut.
spotco2
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Super B Connectors
garboui
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Theres also "connectors" that look similar to **** splice crimp connectors. The difference being is that they have a ring of solder on the inside and the casing is heat shrinkable. All they take is an inline twist of the wires then hit the tube with a mini torch until the solder melts (casings are usually transparent).
99% of phone and alarm guys will use a scotchlock like posted above, no stripping to do, and some have gel to prevent corrosion.
Soldering is obviously a great way to go, but not what would generally be done by a guy dispatched in a truck to come fix it.
Soldering is obviously a great way to go, but not what would generally be done by a guy dispatched in a truck to come fix it.
AV tinker er
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Google a "lap solder splice" with some heat shrink over it.
RECox286
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Western Union splice is the least expensive and time consuming.
Trouble is I don't have any way of doing graphics to show you
what one looks like. Maybe some other "old timer" will be able
to put up a picture. (Or am I the only old coot around here
that remembers ?)
Uncle Bob
Trouble is I don't have any way of doing graphics to show you
what one looks like. Maybe some other "old timer" will be able
to put up a picture. (Or am I the only old coot around here
that remembers ?)
Uncle Bob
Slednut
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99% of phone and alarm guys will use a scotchlock like posted above, no stripping to do, and some have gel to prevent corrosion.
Soldering is obviously a great way to go, but not what would generally be done by a guy dispatched in a truck to come fix it.
Absolutely, I've worked for a phone company for 22 years and these are the way to go, I've seen them at HD. If you see a telephone guy along the road just ask and he will give you some.
jeffmoss26
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I've never seen an alarm guy use anything other than beanies or blue wirenuts lol
gatchel
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15 years doing access control and CCTV. They are the connector of choice in the industry. Schothlocks are good for telecom. That's it...
spotco2
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Me either.
