That and they essentially control the market. Threats from those types of places are never taken lightly. Where to buy? Wherever you can find domestic products. I try not to support big box stores whenever possible.
Damn Chinese made Milwaukee tools
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That and they essentially control the market. Threats from those types of places are never taken lightly. Where to buy? Wherever you can find domestic products. I try not to support big box stores whenever possible.
jabberwoki
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right angle drills made in germany
Are these available in the states?
johnnybentwrench
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You know all my Bosch tools but one were Swiss the other one was German.
mine too
Vinko
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I've got several of the Milwaukee 02346's -- 1/2" drill, corded. Made in USA. Great drills. I just ordered another one for home, as these are all at work. $115 current price on Amazon. Fairly cheap, though it was down to (I think) $89 or $99 a few years ago. Though with deals like this, no wonder you can't get stuff made in the US anymore. There's probably little profit in making a quality American drill that retails at $115
I currently own two Milwaukee tools, one is their top of the line 15 Amp Sawzall which I got new on amazon for $160 earlier this year which I think was a great price. It does not say china anywhere on the label like some of their other tools, it says USA on it. Not "made in USA" just "USA". It works great and I could not be happier with it. I recently used it to cut a branch over 8" thick in diameter off a hickory tree in my back yard. (I don't have a chainsaw at the moment) It got a warm of course but it did not lock up or slow down at all and made the cut pretty quickly considering the tree's hardness...
I also own the new M18 Cordless hammer drill which has been performing over a year beautifully... Again, no complaints at all except that it would be nice if it at least had a bit holder somewhere on the drill and it would also be nice if they included the handle bar with it instead of making you buy it separately... It is made in china...
I agree a lot of stuff from china ***** and breaks easily, and is toxic sometimes...(stinky harbor freight
)? I do believe some products are made well though... not everything is junk.
As far as Milwaukee's warranty is concerned, the 5 year warranty does work. A friend of mine took his cordless sawzall in to a local authorized repair shop last year (the tool was a few years old). He just brought in the original receipt and they fixed it free of charge. The process was very easy. So I feel pretty confident knowing that the 5 year warranty is worth while and that gives me some peace of mind.
I was not all that impressed with his cordless sawzall though... note that this was the previous generation so things may be better now but that one just could not stand up to anywhere near the abuse that my corded one can handle. I highly recommend the 15amp corded one over the cordless if you plan on doing some serious demo work. The corded one may be fine for less demanding tasks and the portability is nice but don't expect it to not lock up or go through batteries fast if making it work hard.
Surely if I had a choice I'd rather buy the USA made power tools but they are becoming fewer and fewer so ya just gotta get what is available. Nevertheless, all in all I am happy with the Milwaukee tools I have and if they keep performing they way they have been so far, I'm pleased, china made or not. As someone else mentioned - milwaukee is a chinese owned company now... so you must have seen the whole shifting to china thing coming...
I also own the new M18 Cordless hammer drill which has been performing over a year beautifully... Again, no complaints at all except that it would be nice if it at least had a bit holder somewhere on the drill and it would also be nice if they included the handle bar with it instead of making you buy it separately... It is made in china...
I agree a lot of stuff from china ***** and breaks easily, and is toxic sometimes...(stinky harbor freight
)? I do believe some products are made well though... not everything is junk.As far as Milwaukee's warranty is concerned, the 5 year warranty does work. A friend of mine took his cordless sawzall in to a local authorized repair shop last year (the tool was a few years old). He just brought in the original receipt and they fixed it free of charge. The process was very easy. So I feel pretty confident knowing that the 5 year warranty is worth while and that gives me some peace of mind.
I was not all that impressed with his cordless sawzall though... note that this was the previous generation so things may be better now but that one just could not stand up to anywhere near the abuse that my corded one can handle. I highly recommend the 15amp corded one over the cordless if you plan on doing some serious demo work. The corded one may be fine for less demanding tasks and the portability is nice but don't expect it to not lock up or go through batteries fast if making it work hard.
Surely if I had a choice I'd rather buy the USA made power tools but they are becoming fewer and fewer so ya just gotta get what is available. Nevertheless, all in all I am happy with the Milwaukee tools I have and if they keep performing they way they have been so far, I'm pleased, china made or not. As someone else mentioned - milwaukee is a chinese owned company now... so you must have seen the whole shifting to china thing coming...
MrMark
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The Milwaukee battery sawzall does lock up and only runs about 5 minutes under load but it is priceless for most stuff. I rarely need to use the corded Milwaukee.
I have noted, and the service center agreed, that the battery sawzall runs better with the nicad. I have tried both nicad and Li-ion in that tool as it takes both and I have both. The nicad handles the high drain better. And before the Li-ion zealots get in an uproar, it is only this particular tool that seems to prefer the nicad. I could care less about the li-ion, but they are lighter and they hold a charge better when left unused for awhile.
The Milwaukee service center in Anaheim *****. It is a dirty nasty place loaded with Chinese products and refurbs that they want new prices for. Crazy place. I asked the lady in there if they had anything American in the whole store. That's how bad it was.
I have noted, and the service center agreed, that the battery sawzall runs better with the nicad. I have tried both nicad and Li-ion in that tool as it takes both and I have both. The nicad handles the high drain better. And before the Li-ion zealots get in an uproar, it is only this particular tool that seems to prefer the nicad. I could care less about the li-ion, but they are lighter and they hold a charge better when left unused for awhile.
The Milwaukee service center in Anaheim *****. It is a dirty nasty place loaded with Chinese products and refurbs that they want new prices for. Crazy place. I asked the lady in there if they had anything American in the whole store. That's how bad it was.
american lockpicker
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An HVAC guy I know has a cordless sawzall and it struggles to cut anything. This would probably out perform it and its human powered.
MrMark
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No, the battery sawzall will cut most anything. I am talking about the V18 here. I have cut through 2 inch galvanized pipe with mine and lots of demo work cutting through plywood and framing. It cuts small trees down too with the tree blade. I am a surgeon with that thing.
american lockpicker
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His is one of the smaller ones.
I must admit the repair shop in my neck of the woods wasn't the most pretty either. I have always wondered why places like that and the pawn shops in the area seem to charge the same prices or MORE for used and very abused, old power tools as I could purchase those, or comparable ones for NEW at home depot or lowes etc. It just does not make sense... even their crappy old hand tools, many of which are no-name china toys cost more than I could buy new and better ones at a retail store. Weird...
MrMark
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Probably the M12 line.
I'm through with Milwaukee now. I have a good supply from the US days.
I was referring to the 6515-20 model... worked okay but drained batteries and locked up frequently under heavy load
I have not tried the M12 line except for the radio, the sound out of it is pretty decent.
@american lockpicker
What brand is that little tool you posted a pic of, it looks kinda nice... does it work well?
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MrMark
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Milwaukee makes this job saw thing kind of like the lockpicker's
Another old goodie is the Lennox folding saw. Many would consider that indispensible, I know I do. I'll look for a picture.
Another old goodie is the Lennox folding saw. Many would consider that indispensible, I know I do. I'll look for a picture.
MrMark
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Here's a picture. This is a good tool.
@Mr Mark
Yep that one does look nice. Even with a sawzall it always helps to have something like that for drywall and other little things... I am in need of a new one as the cheapo drywall saw I had broke. The blade snapped right off...
Yep that one does look nice. Even with a sawzall it always helps to have something like that for drywall and other little things... I am in need of a new one as the cheapo drywall saw I had broke. The blade snapped right off...
american lockpicker
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Its made by Schroeder but Craftsman sells a version(was on sale $9.99 at sears last time I was in).
I have one and I love it. Its made in Germany and uses sawzall blades or any screwdriver or bit holder like this.
Also the Craftsman comes with some accessories but they are junk. Luckily high quality replacements are widely available.
Also yes it works well, so far I've used it on a few jobs trimming branches.
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found the one, the other one should be available too i think. It´s twice as expensive though
http://allprofein.com/drills/fein-aszxeu636-1-angle-drill-up-to-5-16.html
danski0224
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There is an online tool vendor called The Utter Guys (not misspelled) that sells Fein. http://www.utterguys.com/xcart/home.php?cat=
Fein also has a distributor locator on their website.
Fein does not make stuff in China- far as I know. Probably lower volume than either DeWalt or Milwaukee.
If you have not seriously looked at their products before, you might want to sit down first.
I have their Multimaster, a Unishear and a nibbler. All top notch stuff.
Joe From NY
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So im in the middle of rewiring my garage and needed a right angle drill to drill some raceways in the joists. So a trip to home depot was in order.
It appears that the Milwaukee right angle drill is now made in China....
Mine looks like the grandfather of that one, and was in fact given to me by my grandfather. It has chewed through many wall studs in my lifetime and before. There is no plastic anywhere on it, and it is built like a battleship.
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I bought a Milwaukee RA drill 3 years ago. It does not say made in usa. If you disassemble the RA attachment, the sealed bearing inside says CHINA. It is a very well made tool, but I don't think they have been USA made for a few years. Perhaps it was assembled in the USA?
jabberwoki
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Dunker mate!
american lockpicker
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Yep its NOS as the US ones are now made in China or Malaysia.
Vinko
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bw77
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That 02346 I bought off Amazon: it's made in China
So back it goes.
Replaced by which made in USA drill? Are there any?
american lockpicker
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I think they stopped production here a few years ago.
Vinko
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I don't know. The 02346 was a brute. I've got no problem with German or Euro. quality, but I just couldn't keep the new model with the new COO
Maybe if I don't find a serious 1/2" drill like the Milwaukee made in the USA, I'll try one of the Bosch made in Europe if I can find it. Hell, I wouldn't mind a Metabo corded but I can't justify the price to use around the home.
"Made in Switzerland" it seems now....
american lockpicker
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As others have noted, TTI owns Milwaukee, Ryobi, AEG, Homelite, Hoover, Dirt Devil and maybe a few others. They also make tools for Ridgid. Pretty big company.
My Ryobi tools are certainly not pro-grade, but pretty darned good for the money, even if they are China-built. I have a bunch of their cordless 18V stuff and a corded hammer drill and circular saw. The circular saw is not that great, but the others have been remarkably tough and reliable and I've had most of them for over ten years. I've dropped my Ryobi cordless drill from 8 ft. onto concrete at least twenty times (not on purpose), and it still works like new.
My 25 year old green Makita 7.2V cordless drill is Japan-made and still works great now that I got a fresh battery for it.
My 15 yr. old Skil corded drill is US made... ugly, heavy and bulletproof.
My Bosch jigsaw is Swiss-made... and it's one hell of a fine tool. It's really a pleasure to use... smooth, powerful, well designed.
My Ryobi tools are certainly not pro-grade, but pretty darned good for the money, even if they are China-built. I have a bunch of their cordless 18V stuff and a corded hammer drill and circular saw. The circular saw is not that great, but the others have been remarkably tough and reliable and I've had most of them for over ten years. I've dropped my Ryobi cordless drill from 8 ft. onto concrete at least twenty times (not on purpose), and it still works like new.
My 25 year old green Makita 7.2V cordless drill is Japan-made and still works great now that I got a fresh battery for it.
My 15 yr. old Skil corded drill is US made... ugly, heavy and bulletproof.
My Bosch jigsaw is Swiss-made... and it's one hell of a fine tool. It's really a pleasure to use... smooth, powerful, well designed.
american lockpicker
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We got a new Makita jigsaw in at work and its made in UK. I was surprised.
Yea a lot of companies make stuff in the UK. You from the US?
Yeah, USA... Never seen any other power tools made in UK
babzog
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I was saddened to see the Makita drill/driver comboa pack at Costco is China made.
My Dad has one of those sets though, and it's been put (heavily) to use on a regular basis for, oh, maybe two years now. Still purr like they were new. I hate the China name on tools (for many reasons), but I don't automatically think all (Many? Most? Perhaps, but not all) of the tools are **** - these companies still have reputations to uphold and they can certainly dictate the specs.I know several contractors who use Ryobi tools on a daily basis and swear by them. I think they're perhaps slightly less refined than say, Makita or Dewalt or Milwaukee, but the quality appears to be there.
My Craftsman 18V drill batteries are on their last legs but the drill has certainly performed admirably.
JohnFreeman
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If Im going to have to buy Chinese tools, I'll buy them at Harbor Freight. Buying US brand labeled tools made in China at US prices *****!
american lockpicker
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I've only seen soldering irons here. But overseas a lot of brands have made tools in the UK Dewalt for example.