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chris.j

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Thinking to build a new data center space. Can anyone provide me with some options to choose from?
 
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CoogarXR

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We're going to need a lot more info... How many servers/racks, etc.

I have also designed a few data centers.
 

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Well, you have square spaces, and then there's rectangular spaces. And don't overlook the geodesic dome.

That's about as much as I can do for such a vague question.
 

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Definitely looks like spam. God bless the project if the OP is real and consults in the General Garage Discussion on the GJ for building a real data center.
 

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I'm thinking of building a new satellite launch pad. Where do I start? Can I get everything I need at Home Depot?

=P

Almost everything, you'll have to go to Jet Fuel Mart to get the fuel. Wait a minute, you're just building the launch pad o you don't need fuel. Yes, you can get everything at Home Depot.
 

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And don't forget the triangular spaces.....those are really hard to work with.

They say that oval offices can be hard to work with. ;)

Almost everything, you'll have to go to Jet Fuel Mart to get the fuel. Wait a minute, you're just building the launch pad o you don't need fuel. Yes, you can get everything at Home Depot.

Sure. They'll even be happy to load pallets of concrete in the trunk of your Geo Metro too.
 

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Almost everything, you'll have to go to Jet Fuel Mart to get the fuel. Wait a minute, you're just building the launch pad o you don't need fuel. Yes, you can get everything at Home Depot.

Jet A is basically kerosene, which can definitely be purchased at Home Depot. Space rockets do not use jet engines though. :thumbup:
 

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Thinking to build a new data center space. Can anyone provide me with some options to choose from?

Chris, you want to choose a concrete, steel or wood building. Size it to be big enough for the size you need now, and some future sizing. Make sure it has a roof.
 

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Jet A is basically kerosene, which can definitely be purchased at Home Depot. Space rockets do not use jet engines though. :thumbup:

Good point that Home Depot has kerosene. While space rockets do not use jet engines, many (mostly Russian designed) use jet fuel. Liquid oxygen IS often used in jet planes, though not in the engines (just for breathing; at least that I am aware of). However, just like Home Depot has beef jerky, I wouldn't be surprised if Jet Fuel Mart had LOx in the checkout aisles for impulse purchases. ;)
 
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Minimum 4' (6' better) in front and behind the server rack.

Forget doors. The look nice but block cooling unless you are on a raised floor and have AC pumped under the floor. Then make sure you have an open top.

It is very easy to exceed the current ratting of your power strip. You want power strips that are 4'-5' long with outlets spaced at least 6" apart. Put on on the left side of the cabinet and one on the right side. Make sure they are 20A rated and feed by a 20A circuit.
 

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The foundation of a fully functional data center is ensuring you have a Honda Ridgeline to transport everything you need from Home Depot.
 

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Minimum 4' (6' better) in front and behind the server rack.

Forget doors. The look nice but block cooling unless you are on a raised floor and have AC pumped under the floor. Then make sure you have an open top.

It is very easy to exceed the current ratting of your power strip. You want power strips that are 4'-5' long with outlets spaced at least 6" apart. Put on on the left side of the cabinet and one on the right side. Make sure they are 20A rated and feed by a 20A circuit.

We design for 8' cold aisles and 4' hot aisles, using containment curtains at each end of a 20 rack pod. Doors are a requirement by some fire codes, and are absolutely necessary in a shared data center space for security purposes.

Each 42U rack holds 16-30 servers, and averages 12kW. They are fed by dual three-phase power distribution units (408v, 30amps each).

The power distribution units are fed by dual 250kW flexible power centers. One pair per pod of 20 racks. These are fed in turn by a pair of 2 megawatt UPS systems.

Too bad the OP was not serious about his request, there could be a lot of good information being shared here, lol.
 

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Have a site ready to go. Space available for 300,000 sq ft building. Dual power sources available. 4 fiber providers at the site.
 

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make sure you install one of those indoor sprinkler systems in case a fire

You jest, but when Halon was declared evil, our pointy heads from on-high issued a directive to rip out all the Halon systems and replace them with wet pipe water sprinklers. They were uniformly ignored.
 

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All the talk is on the physical layout... more important is getting heat out and highly reliable power in!
 

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Getting the heat out is easy... Our roof is on hinges and opens up. We use hundreds of electric fans from Harbor Freight to blow the warm air up and out ;)


Power? We use thousands of hamsters running in those little wheels, all connected to the grid. Hamsters are self reproducing, don't eat much, and are covered in little fur coats.
 
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chris.j

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Thanks all. I'm new to the forum so didn't exactly know where to post this question. I wanted some good brand references. I was looking for around 20" rack solution with 3-5 kva, good cooling capacity.
 

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...unless you are on a raised floor and have AC pumped under the floor. Then make sure you have an open top.

It is very easy to exceed the current ratting of your power strip. You want power strips that are 4'-5' long with outlets spaced at least 6" apart. Put on on the left side of the cabinet and one on the right side. Make sure they are 20A rated and feed by a 20A circuit.

Man, I haven't seen upflow cooling in a LOOOONG time.
Why on earth would you want outlets spaced so far apart?

We design for 8' cold aisles and 4' hot aisles, using containment curtains at each end of a 20 rack pod. Doors are a requirement by some fire codes, and are absolutely necessary in a shared data center space for security purposes.

Each 42U rack holds 16-30 servers, and averages 12kW. They are fed by dual three-phase power distribution units (408v, 30amps each).

The power distribution units are fed by dual 250kW flexible power centers. One pair per pod of 20 racks. These are fed in turn by a pair of 2 megawatt UPS systems.

Too bad the OP was not serious about his request, there could be a lot of good information being shared here, lol.

I've seen a lot of different data center solutions, and yours seems pretty unique. I've never seen as much as 8' wasted on a cold aisle. I'm not all up with 408V systems, but it sounds to me like some UCS setups I've worked with, powered by APC gear. Not my cup of tea, but if it pays the bills, it sounds good to me.
 

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This still smells fishy.

New member 1: I want to build a data center. Help?
New member 2: I can help, here's my link!

If you will note, 2 posts up from yours, the OP returned with some clarification (not much, but some) on what he needs info on.

To me, it doesn't sound fishy, just a new member who doesn't yet have the experience to ask clear questions.

Of course, he may have other issues. I know I've asked questions late at night while a bit inebriated that were REALLY unclear when I read them the next day!
 
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