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fourjeepin

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What do you do with them? I tried selling on eBay, but only got $10.50 and the post office wanted $16 shipping. :eyecrazy:

I have 3 of the 18volt Dewalts. One XRP, the others two are standard. I tried zapping them with my welder and it helped for a few months, then they quit holding a charge again.

I considered rebuilding, but the price of new cells was almost the same as buying new batteries outright.

Thanks!
Chad
 
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jakemac

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Once they stop taking a charge, I recycle them at a local hardware store that mails them out. If I can't find a replacement used and cheap, I **** it up and buy a new one. Fortunately I haven't had to do that for the last 10yrs, but it's been close a few times.

You can use this link to find the nearest call2recycle dropoff point to you.
http://www.call2recycle.org/
 

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I considered rebuilding, but the price of new cells was almost the same as buying new batteries outright.
Chad
Yep. Which is exactly why no one else wants them either. If new packs are available at a reasonable price then just go new and toss/recycle the old.

If it's something "off brand" and new packs aren't available then rebuild with the cheapest cells you can get from ebay. For cheap brand stuff though, sometimes it's about the same price to by a whole new kit (drill charger and batteries) than to buy the darn cells. One thing I've done in this case is to just rebuild one (of two) packs with new cells and then sort the good cells from the duds in the old guts of the rebuilt one to patch up the other. You end up with two useable packs for the price of one rebuild, but the patched up pack will always be somewhat of a weakling.
 
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Junkman

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I must have at least a half dozen of the DeWalt batteries, but I never thought of rebuilding using cells from one for the other. How do you know which are the bad cells? thanks
 
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Zapping them with the welder. Is that the same thing as hitting them in the car charger? You overload the battery to rejuice the cells? Always wondered if that works. Have a set of batteries that won't hold there charge well at all
 

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I must have at least a half dozen of the DeWalt batteries, but I never thought of rebuilding using cells from one for the other. How do you know which are the bad cells? thanks

You just give the pack a charge and start using the tool while checking the voltage pretty regularly until it starts "collapsing". Like for example an 18V pack might start out at 20 volts straight after charge, but if it's a "flogged" pack it will start dropping pretty fast once you start using it.

So for example I might use it for 10 minutes and see that it's now only 16 or 17 volts or something. Then when you pull it apart all the really weak cells will be zero already, so you mark those ones as bad straight away.

Then you just leave it for a week or so and measure the cells again, the ones that are still showing good readings at this stage are probably ok, so mark those with a pen for reuse.

Make sure however that you leave the tabs attached to the good reusable cells (you can just rip them from the dead cells with long nose pliers). This is important because you can't solder directly to the battery terminals, so you need a spot welder if you lose the tabs.

Where two adjacent cells are both good and you want to separate them, you can split the tab between them with a sharp pair of tin snips. Half a tab is enough to solder to, though I find it works best to slice them at an angle (so that both halves are trapezoid rather than rectangular) to get the easiest join when reusing.

BTW. If you've got two flogged packs then usually one is flogged worse than the other. I find it works best to rebuild the worst pack with new cells and patch up the other.
 
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KinzeMech

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I considered rebuilding, but the price of new cells was almost the same as buying new batteries outright.

Thanks!
Chad

There is one advantage to rebuilding (even when the costs are close to the same), the cells you rebuild it with can be much higher quality than the ones that came originally in the battery. Almost all of the OEM's use the cheapest grade of nicd cells.
 

69supercj

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The buyer should pay the shipping charges on your ebay sales. If not, see if they will split the charges, you'll come out with a couple bucks in your pocket and no batteries to have lying around in the way.
 
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