Debate about $1000 Snap-On impact wrench

[Jacobson]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/dthfp8/snap_on_has_lost_their_fucking_minds/

Top voted comment:

Over a grand for an impact is completely rediculous and not justifiable, even if it's a 3/4. Also the maximum allowed trade in is apparently $200. Get the **** outta here

Edit: to the newer guys out there that are looking to get more tools for work: do not buy from the truck unless you ABSOLUTELY have to. Go to all the pawn shops in the area and see what's there. There are always crack and meth head mechanics pawning their **** to get drugs. Take advantage of that. And also, that $15k toolbox is not at all what you need. If you genuinely have enough tools to need the space, you can still get a nice toolbox from home depot for a third of the price. Or keep an eye open for a trade in used box. Keep in mind your toolbox doesnt make you any money. The contents of it and your ability to use them effectively does. Dont be dumb and spend $10k on tools and just as much on a box when you dont have to.

 

[Jacobson]

I had no idea that a tool chest can cost $15k.
What does the comparable Sears version cost?

$15k is a downpayment on a house

 

[DieselSaves]

I had no idea that a tool chest can cost $15k.
What does the comparable Sears version cost?

$15k is a downpayment on a house

Some coffee drinks are price close to $10.
A nice meal can set you back over a grand.
Cars can cost $1.5 million.
Houses can exceed $100 million.

Professional grade impact guns can bump $1000 and ones paid for with credit surely will.

The market makes room for every budget.

 

[Yarpo]

Tool debates on reddit are terrible, less people there actually use tools than here. That said, yah **** that. 1k for an air impact is obnoxious. You can buy an ingersoll rand or an aircat 3/4 gun for 300-400 dollars. Not exactly cheap but more than half the price, tho snap ons gun "looks" smaller, based on the pictures I suppose.

 

[acer66]

There are people who are happy with a craftsman sub $1k box and then there are people who are happy to pay north of $10k for a snap on.

Some people are happy driving a yugo while for others a bugatti is as low as they go.

Most of us would most likely get by with a black and decker drill but we buy yellow, red etc..

A person who pays $15k for a box most likely does not live in a house which you can get with a $15k down payment.

Just random rambling morning thoughts.

 

[CobraRed]

Air tools do not cost this much to make, not even close

 

[Jacobson]

Some people are happy driving a yugo while for others a bugatti is as low as they go.

lol_hitti

Yea, but there is actually a difference between a Yugo and Bugatti.

How is a $1000 impact gun three times better than a $350 one?

How is a $9000 toolbox nine times better than the $1000 one at HD ?
That's just being a complete chump sucker

 

[Cheapskate]

There are always crack and meth head mechanics pawning their **** to get drugs.

I thought they would be more likely to be pawning other peoples ****.

 

[sberry]

I talk a lot about this. If you are arguing it on the merits, the cost, the return, the tool itself then its really hard to make a real case. If you are talking about how people feel about it, their opinion , what they want and how they value it then its a different matter.
I believe there should be a 1000$ impact and the people selling it are doing exactly what they should do.

 

[acer66]

Yea, but there is actually a difference between a Yugo and Bugatti.

How is a $1000 impact gun three times better than a $350 one?

How is a $9000 toolbox nine times better than the $1000 one at HD ?
That's just being a complete chump sucker

Is a bugatti a ~million times better than a yugo?

People are willing to pay more or even sometimes overpay
because of the name, lifestyle and the image attached.
Would I buy a $15k tool box, a million dollar car if I have the money?
I do not know and I doubt that I will ever be in that situation
but I also do not care if people do so.

 

[ChrisLS8]

There are people who are happy with a craftsman sub $1k box and then there are people who are happy to pay north of $10k for a snap on.

Some people are happy driving a yugo while for others a bugatti is as low as they go.

Most of us would most likely get by with a black and decker drill but we buy yellow, red etc..

A person who pays $15k for a box most likely does not live in a house which you can get with a $15k down payment.

Just random rambling morning thoughts.

The average mechanic makes under 30 bucks an hour and usually in the low 20s. most of the ones I know that have the latest and greatest Tool Truck tools also have a large amount of debt

I understand buying what is perceived as the best to get your work done but it's also an issue of trying to one up the other guys and buying outside your means and needs for vanity. I fell into that trap years ago working at Ford and never again, I wish I knew about this forum back then to save me alot of money and grief.

 

[acer66]

I am not sure what I am even doing in this thread but I just remembered something about similar with bicycles.

It is fairly easy and cheap to get a bicycle to certain weight
but from a certain point every saved gram gets exponentially more expensive.

So a 3 times more expensive tool is not necessarily 3 times better.

 

[sberry]

It may be more than 3x here, 10 is normal and some of it 20 now. Even if production is 5x how much more or better is it? How much is the actual cost to make the tool that cost 10X more?
I happened to see a set of about 15 Stanley maybe, long combo Pro that if the price tag and label were removed anyone would have thought they were finely made well crafted tools. Under 30$ retail off the shelf and would have served well anywhere. I didn't need them but it was dam near tempting they were so pretty.
Even if a guy had the credit it wouldn't have made the first of 24 payments. Change one starter with those and well headed in to the black, next one double their money.

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

Yea, but there is actually a difference between a Yugo and Bugatti.

How is a $1000 impact gun three times better than a $350 one?

How is a $9000 toolbox nine times better than the $1000 one at HD ?
That's just being a complete chump sucker

Why are you dredging up sh/t that's been debated endlessly?

 

[acer66]

Why are you dredging up sh/t that's been debated endlessly?

OP is taking one for the team so we can use of course.

 

[zkling]

This is the same guy that use to have a ******** as his avatar pic. And not the concrete kind.

 

[Dingleburry]

No debate. Too expensive for me.

 

[The Fall]

I wish I could get my hands on a Yugo. Those are rare now.

 

[Lucid Moments]

I am not sure what I am even doing in this thread but I just remembered something about similar with bicycles.

It is fairly easy and cheap to get a bicycle to certain weight
but from a certain point every saved gram gets exponentially more expensive.

So a 3 times more expensive tool is not necessarily 3 times better.

It is known as the point of diminishing returns. And I try to stay below it.

Is there a place for a $1,000+ impact gun? Sure there is. Not in my shop though.

 

[Jtels85]

Icon will come out with their version for $174.99. It will be much less expensive and better quality. Snap On owners will have a coronary. Just be patient and Harbor Freight will have a solution soon enough...

 

[jd_1138]

You're not paying for only the tool itself; you're paying for the better service of a dedicated dealer. If your impact craps out, and you're busting fasteners with a 30 inch breaker bar and a cheater pipe while waiting for weeks for your broken tool to get repaired/returned, then all of a sudden that extra money is kinda chump change. And the cheaper tool is not as good of a value. Especially if you incur a serious injury in the process.

I mean I am not a pro technician, so I wouldn't pay that much for a tool(s), but I can see where a technician might want to. Buy once, cry once.

And tool boxes are way less than $5,000 at HD. I think the priciest one I've seen there was like $900 or something.

 

[lardy1]

When did the way people choose to spend their own money become a topic for "debate"?

 

[acer66]

When did the way people choose to spend their own money become a topic for "debate"?

Beats me.

 

[Wamsutta]

I can think a lot worse things to spend a $1000 on. How about a cigarette habit? How much does that cost these days? What's the latest price for a pack of Marlboro reds? I don't even know.

 

[Rabid Badger]

Snap-On isn't in business to give people their money's worth, they're in business to squeeze them for every cent they can while giving them as little as possible.

Until people realize it's insane to spend as much on their tools as they do on their house, prices will keep going up.

 

[Tinner]

Cheapskates always think they're smarter than everyone else and feel a need to tell the world about it. Crusaders on a mission to save people from themselves.

 

[Wamsutta]

There's probably at least one guy out there that will tell you the impact wrench is worth every penny. He's probably not a DIY'er, but rather a heavy truck mechanic making good wages at a union shop.

What I think is insane is paying property tax. I hate property tax.

 

[Skin]

How is a $1000 impact gun three times better than a $350 one?

Build quality and COO. All the MG impacts are one piece cast magnesium housing with a sealed oil bath hammer case. The casting and machining is first rate. Its a nice piece of kit but just suffers a bit from poor ergonomics. Its also made in the US. With the 2145 going to China im not even sure there is an affordable option left for a domestic made 3/4" impact.

Simple fact is when you get into super duty impacts of 3/4 and 1" the best ones put out tons of power, and simply by their nature are a low volume high cost to manufacture product. The IR 2925 is north of $1500 but puts out 1600 foot pounds and is built to survive even in highly corrosive environments. A 1" gun can run you well over 2 grand.

I think most people commenting here and there are just seeing "Impact, $1000" and cant wrap their head around it when in reality its roughly the price range for that type of tool. For a Snap-on tool its far from the most overpriced. Now a $1000 battery impact kit or a $550 10Pc wrench set? Go nuts.

 

[KnurledNut]

Do some research on heavy equipment prices and repair costs and check back with us.

 

[Yarpo]

Do some research on heavy equipment prices and repair costs and check back with us.

Yeah when I was working on Firetrucks I'd see Rosenbauers ladders roll in at 1.5million, and the company servicing them? We charged 110 an hour. Killer money.

 

[pcmeiners]

"The market makes room for every budget. "

And every fool. And there is always someone or company willing to profit from them.

 

[DieselSaves]

"The market makes room for every budget. "

And every fool. And there is always someone or company willing to profit from them.

And that dynamic is what makes life interesting. Some fools value one form of entertainment, some another. Fortunately threads like this are both cheap and entertaining. Now, if I had to pay, I’d kvetch about how much cheaper xyzfreighttoolsreview forum is.

 

[2ndGearRubber]

Yea, but there is actually a difference between a Yugo and Bugatti.

How is a $1000 impact gun three times better than a $350 one?

How is a $9000 toolbox nine times better than the $1000 one at HD ?
That's just being a complete chump sucker

The 9k boxes are closer to 6k real world with rebates and a trade. And part of that cost is door-to-door sales, warranty, blah blah blah.



But yes, Having owned both and making a living with my tools and box: My $5600 box IS 5.6 times the box the Husky/kobalt/milwaukee/US General/craftsman boxes are.




Back to the topic, I think 1k sounds a bit steep. Of course, buying such a gun you should be making that much post-tax per week anyways. I buy on the trucks and everywhere else. I'm cheap-ish, but some truck stuff is just worth it, even with the price tag. 1/4 drive SO universals for instance; unparalleled IMO.

 

[parks31]

I would like to add some cell phones are being sold for around that price and they dont have the service or longevity of said tool.

 

[M6erfan]

Another "S-o is too expensive thread", how original.

Even more original, 'HF is better'.

Don't you guys ever tire of this ****?

 

[Bighead38]

Yea, but there is actually a difference between a Yugo and Bugatti.

How is a $1000 impact gun three times better than a $350 one?

How is a $9000 toolbox nine times better than the $1000 one at HD ?
That's just being a complete chump sucker

Load that $1000 toolbox so that every drawer is full. Now open and close those drawers all day everyday. Let me know how it’s holds up after a few years.

New snap on boxes are a crazy price, I would never buy a new box for that much. There are companies that make durable boxes for way less than snap on. The $1000 box at Home Depot though won’t hold up for most mechanics.

 

[Rabid Badger]

Cheapskates always think they're smarter than everyone else and feel a need to tell the world about it. Crusaders on a mission to save people from themselves.

The most expensive version of anything is never a good investment.

The law of diminishing returns. Learn it, live it, love it.

 

[Wamsutta]

Another "S-o is too expensive thread", how original.

Even more original, 'HF is better'.

Don't you guys ever tire of this ****?

I don't post in the HF threads anymore in case you haven't noticed. I never have anything good to say in HF threads anyway, so I finally came to the conclusion that I shouldn't post in those threads no more.

 

[Fedwrench]

A $1,000 impact wrench is only $50 a week for 20 weeks.

We have gone through this over & over again. Professional techs won't blink or develop sticker shock at tool truck prices. If the tool will increase a Tech's productivity, it's an investment that will make him money.

Professional techs will never convince average joes that truck brands are worth their cost and average joes will never convince a professional tech that their Earthquake XT5000 is a better impact.

Carry on, move along, there's nothing to see here.

Be happy with your tool choices and leave others to make their own choices freely.

 

[krole]

You're not paying for only the tool itself; you're paying for the better service of a dedicated dealer. If your impact craps out, and you're busting fasteners with a 30 inch breaker bar and a cheater pipe while waiting for weeks for your broken tool to get repaired/returned, then all of a sudden that extra money is kinda chump change. And the cheaper tool is not as good of a value. Especially if you incur a serious injury in the process.

I mean I am not a pro technician, so I wouldn't pay that much for a tool(s), but I can see where a technician might want to. Buy once, cry once.

And tool boxes are way less than $5,000 at HD. I think the priciest one I've seen there was like $900 or something.

You can buy an aircat and IR and save a few hundred over Snapon and have a spare.