Big-Foot
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Hard to understand how using a sealing product on the top and sides of the board would contribute substantially to the rotting of the wood...
"Deck Restore" Has anyone used this?
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We just got my parents deck prepped for a deck coating. I'm looking to use either the Rustoleum Deck Restore, Olympic Rescue It, Deck Reform or the new SuperDeck product. I've read the reviews on the Deck Restore but would be interested to hear what others have to say on the other products.
03Mach69Mach
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Here is my before and after using Rustoleum Deck Restore. Very satisfied with results. Two coats is a must & is expensive, but way cheaper than replacement of the entire 2x6 PT decking.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/marcus69mustang/8857361491/in/set-72157631439867778
http://www.flickr.com/photos/marcus69mustang/8857361491/in/set-72157631439867778
I am halfway through my deck resurfacing project. I decided to go with Armor Garages Deck Renew (http://www.armorgarage.com/oudelico.html) because if it's more expensive, it has to be better! Well, I ordered 6 gallons for my 200 sqft deck and was barely able to finish one coat! I contacted Armor Garage and they told me that's not abnormal and offered no help. Had I known it would take so much I would never have ordered it (website states 5 gal = 400sqft). For a cost of $420, I expected to be able to finish the job. The product does look ok after 1 coat, but the cost is ridiculous. I could replace the boards for nearly the price of 10 gals on my small deck.
Also, the shipping label said Armorpoxy which is another brand/website I looked at. Same company/product?
I now plan to put HD's Deck Restore over this and we'll see how it goes.
Also, the shipping label said Armorpoxy which is another brand/website I looked at. Same company/product?
I now plan to put HD's Deck Restore over this and we'll see how it goes.
After doing some research, we ended up doing our parents deck with DeckREFORM. We added a little bit of water to the mix to create a slightly smoother texture after application. It worked well. After trying a couple of different applicators, we stuck with the textured rollers. I would recommend it to those looking into deck coating options.
77thor
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OK... Anybody use this stuff on concrete??
Just curious, as I may try it on an old patio slab.
All these products seem to state that it can be used on concrete.
Just curious, as I may try it on an old patio slab.
All these products seem to state that it can be used on concrete.
AirJunky
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I painted 3 decks on our house with it 3 years ago. All 3 decks see lots of sun, rain & snow. 3 yrs later, there is like 2 places that have worn or chipped thru to the wood. It looks good. Has good non-skid properties. And has worked better than anything else I've ever painted a wood deck or fence with.
Speaking of which, I'm going to need to repaint that fence again that I painted 3 years ago.
Speaking of which, I'm going to need to repaint that fence again that I painted 3 years ago.
I used this stuff on my decking and after considerable preparation I applied the one gallon only to find I needed two (the deck was one four foot square and a very short flight of stairs. After two months it cracked out and does not stick to any wood filler. I now have cracks and splits in the coating that are not supposed to happen. I am a Contract painter craftsman from the UK. The material did not stand up to one Chicago summertime
emcman97015
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I used this last summer on a 16x12 foot 13 year old deck. Uprights are painted in a solid color matching stain. The floor a matching color. I used 6-7 gallons. It goes on slow and takes some work to cover the between board gaps.
You do need a second coat and then you have the option of leaving it rough and I did the light back brush which slows things even more. I did have some expoy woof filler in a spot and it covered it fine.
It has seen a lot of rain here but no winter yet. If I do not have to restain it like I have been doing every other year I will be happy. So far it looks like the day I put it down.
All the cracks and screw heads are covered. I am not sure how you would get a board up other than cutting it out but for me the result was fine.
You do need a second coat and then you have the option of leaving it rough and I did the light back brush which slows things even more. I did have some expoy woof filler in a spot and it covered it fine.
It has seen a lot of rain here but no winter yet. If I do not have to restain it like I have been doing every other year I will be happy. So far it looks like the day I put it down.
All the cracks and screw heads are covered. I am not sure how you would get a board up other than cutting it out but for me the result was fine.
fun2drive
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Anyone else have an update? I have a 100 ft dock and 30 by 40 ft 2nd story deck. All the pressure treated wood is well weathered and splintered so getting things covered and just preserving it for a while is all I care about not esthetic's.
Thanks
Thanks
just had our tired & weathered deck with behr "deckover" done. it looks great. now the question is will it hold up? if i can get another 2-3 years out of it, it'll be worth it. the wood was really weathered and cracked, and there's 2 coats of paint on there (the painters didn't put it on as thick as it otherwise should have, but i was ok with that since i was very suspect on how the product was going to turn out). it needs a third, which i'll do, and that'll fill in the last of the cracks and give a nice final finish.
fyi, if you have a handful of really badly splintered deck boards, my suggestion would be to just replace them. we replaced a couple of dozen that were just not salvageable, and no amount of thick paint product would give me comfort that someone wouldn't find a massive slice in their foot from splintered wood.
by the way, getting proper (both even thickness and visually consistent) coverage in between the deck boards is a nightmare with a brush. i came up with my own solution, which the painters appreciated (they had destroyed a couple of long bristle brushes trying to make it work):
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Shur-Line-Paint-Edger-Pad-Refills-2-Pack-200ZS/100076393?N=5yc1vZ1dc
i had a bunch of these edger pads sitting around unused, so i cut the little rounded ends (which made the pad a little thicker. worked like a charm.
fyi, if you have a handful of really badly splintered deck boards, my suggestion would be to just replace them. we replaced a couple of dozen that were just not salvageable, and no amount of thick paint product would give me comfort that someone wouldn't find a massive slice in their foot from splintered wood.
by the way, getting proper (both even thickness and visually consistent) coverage in between the deck boards is a nightmare with a brush. i came up with my own solution, which the painters appreciated (they had destroyed a couple of long bristle brushes trying to make it work):
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Shur-Line-Paint-Edger-Pad-Refills-2-Pack-200ZS/100076393?N=5yc1vZ1dc
i had a bunch of these edger pads sitting around unused, so i cut the little rounded ends (which made the pad a little thicker. worked like a charm.
We manufacture a similar product that works great. Nice pics on the link showing it used in demanding commercial applications. Not inexpensive, but 1/6th the cost of replacing a deck. We sell many thousands of gallons of this per year. Works great on concrete too. Must use the primer for good results (wood only) and to get the lifetime warranty.
We state coverage at 80 sq ft/gal/coat. Two coats + primer are required on wood.
Like ANY coating, that can vary widely based on surface porosity and texture, and color (light colors get lower coverage with this product)
Its is a thick, highly textured product by design, and yes, not dissimilar to bed liner.
https://armorpoxy.com/pool-coatings-outdoor-patios-decks/armor-renew-concrete-and-wood-resurfacer/
(This product is eligible for a 20% Forum discount, not 40% like on our regular coatings).
First photo shows the thickness/texture. Before/after photos of a large bridge product the product was used on.
We state coverage at 80 sq ft/gal/coat. Two coats + primer are required on wood.
Like ANY coating, that can vary widely based on surface porosity and texture, and color (light colors get lower coverage with this product)
Its is a thick, highly textured product by design, and yes, not dissimilar to bed liner.
https://armorpoxy.com/pool-coatings-outdoor-patios-decks/armor-renew-concrete-and-wood-resurfacer/
(This product is eligible for a 20% Forum discount, not 40% like on our regular coatings).
First photo shows the thickness/texture. Before/after photos of a large bridge product the product was used on.
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busyallthetime
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What make your product unique versus the rest of the products on the market?
Hi,
We don't test or compare our products to competitors products so not really sure how to answer that, and we generally don't comment on competitive products. The little we do know, ours seems to work in a similar fashion as a thick resurfacer, and the products seem to all be in the same acrylic family. The product being very thick covers up the old, splintered wood, and gives many years of new life to an old deck. The other issue is that all manufacturers of coatings have had to remove many of the ingredients that made outdoor coatings last a long time, hence it's almost impossible to manufacture coatings for decks and outdoor use that last a long time so this product has seen tremendous growth as people don't want to keep repainting every 2-3 years.
We really don't know how other's make theirs. We know ours works well and we have many thousands of satisfied customers!
We don't test or compare our products to competitors products so not really sure how to answer that, and we generally don't comment on competitive products. The little we do know, ours seems to work in a similar fashion as a thick resurfacer, and the products seem to all be in the same acrylic family. The product being very thick covers up the old, splintered wood, and gives many years of new life to an old deck. The other issue is that all manufacturers of coatings have had to remove many of the ingredients that made outdoor coatings last a long time, hence it's almost impossible to manufacture coatings for decks and outdoor use that last a long time so this product has seen tremendous growth as people don't want to keep repainting every 2-3 years.
We really don't know how other's make theirs. We know ours works well and we have many thousands of satisfied customers!
914wilhelm
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I used this on concrete and in a year it was lifting in sheets ans was a mess. I power washed then rented a concrete grinder from HD and used a concrete stain. Much happier.
EOT 4 Life
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Deck Restore is basically the same as Rescue It and it was the worst thing I could have used on my concrete patio. It was supposedly great for use on both wood and concrete but failed horribly. My friend used it on his deck and had the same exact experience with it chipping and pulling up in the wet and cold weather. It looked great when I first applied it, but as soon as winter hit, it became a nightmare. I documented it and you can see some pictures on this forum and how I corrected it with the assistance of Scotty at Legacy Industrial.
You can see how the product failed on concrete here:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=289404&highlight=rescue
There is a video of a wood deck failure here:
Also, it was a major headache to remove the failed product and it took a while to get it back to bare concrete so think about that before you decide to use it.
You can see how the product failed on concrete here:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=289404&highlight=rescue
There is a video of a wood deck failure here:
Also, it was a major headache to remove the failed product and it took a while to get it back to bare concrete so think about that before you decide to use it.
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