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Dedicated Outlet for AC225 Welder

brachus12

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Planning on adding a dedicated receptacle for a Lincoln AC225 welder, but I'd like to have one on opposite sides of the garage.

Should I have each on its own circuit? Or since it would only be one outlet in use at any time, could they be on the same circuit?

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I have the same setup and I pigtail in the first outlet box. But you can split the circuit in a Jbox if that makes better sense because of how the run needs to be made.
 

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Did you man "can't"?

No, don't use tiny wire....I think this is 30-50A, right....so you'd need 10/3 for 30A or 6/3 for 50A. Because of the duty cycle, you can actually go smaller, but I wouldn't do that because you may use something other than a welder on the circuit.
 

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Did you man "can't"?

No, don't use tiny wire....I think this is 30-50A, right....so you'd need 10/3 for 30A or 6/3 for 50A. Because of the duty cycle, you can actually go smaller, but I wouldn't do that because you may use something other than a welder on the circuit.

If you're talking NM wire numbers, welders only need 2 Hots, so it would be 10/2 or 6/2. No neutral is needed. I agree with not reducing the wire size because of being a welder outlet. I'd size the wire to the breaker.
 
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How big is the garage? If you calculate the amount of wire needed to run to the other side v. making an extension cord, you might find more versatility in positioning your welder using a cord from one side. It doesn't matter what is used to power the welder, cords or hard wire. What matters is sizing and total length. As mentioned, you can use a somewhat smaller extension cord than you would need to run to other 240v equipment.

You can buy 10/3 cords, but the ends won't be correct. Easier to make one no longer than what you actually need.
 

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How big is the garage? If you calculate the amount of wire needed to run to the other side v. making an extension cord, you might find more versatility in positioning your welder using a cord from one side. It doesn't matter what is used to power the welder, cords or hard wire. What matters is sizing and total length. As mentioned, you can use a somewhat smaller extension cord than you would need to run to other 240v equipment.
You can buy 10/3 cords, but the ends won't be correct. Easier to make one no longer than what you actually need.
That's what I do. My receptacle is below my panel which happens to be next to the man door for my garage. An extension cord makes it easy for welding in most areas of my garage as well as outside.
 
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brachus12

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I may go with a single receptacle then. Run to first outlet is about 25' from panel. Is conduit required for this even though it is mounted in the wall and ceiling?
 

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Did you man "can't"?

No, don't use tiny wire....I think this is 30-50A, right....so you'd need 10/3 for 30A or 6/3 for 50A. Because of the duty cycle, you can actually go smaller, but I wouldn't do that because you may use something other than a welder on the circuit.

Nope, the electrical code allows you to undersize the wire in a welder cicuit. I think it is crazy too and I used 6 gauge for the 50 amp circuit to my welder plug but it is not easy to wire nut 6 gauge. The thread title is "dedicated" welder outlet and maybe the poster wants to know the code requirement before deciding to oversize.
 
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I want to have a 120v outlet below the 240v outlet for when I use the smaller Lincoln 100. Any code issues from that?

Can I run both wires (6/2,12/2) through the same 3/4 hole at the top of the wall?


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You're okay with 2 cables. Once you have more than 2 without proper spacing you run into derating requirements. NEC 334.80
 
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