Guy selling these locally: two of these Delta DPs for $75 bucks. They were already spoken for when I heard back from him. I mentioned to him that he could have gotten far more, and his buyer was getting a screaming deal. He said "Nah, these are very common." Am I wrong?
Delta Milwaukee DP value....do I have this wrong?
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Maui
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Those would probably go for about $200 - $250 EACH in my area today.
slowtwitch73
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He's nuts. The fact you conatcted him willing to pay more, and the fact they are already spoken for is proof positive.
tonyis
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On the other hand, I appreciate a seller who sticks to his word after making a deal. He's definitely low though. Even though those are lower end models, he definitely could've gotten at least $100 each for them.
He didn't even list the model number. I'm assuming they are 220s?
What's funnier is he said there were 20 other people ahead of me! I mean, wouldn't that give you a clue that you have them priced a bit too generously?
tonyis
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You're right, they are dp220s. I always get tripped up by the smaller belt guards on the high speed models like these and think they're a smaller drill press
slowtwitch73
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Absolutely... nuts and honest.
Cruzan80
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Not sure what you were hoping he would say...Yes, I priced them cheap?What's funnier is he said there were 20 other people ahead of me! I mean, wouldn't that give you a clue that you have them priced a bit too generously?
Were you trying to move up the line by offering more?
Some people just want stuff gone.
slowtwitch73
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Sounds like he was making conversation.....
Hi, I saw one today and I wanted to buy it but I just see your post saying that this DP is a low end model. According to you, which one was the Rolls Royce drill press in the 1930's, 40's, 50's period. Just curious because I want to buy one but that is not my industry. I just do my homework to take to good direction among the ton of drill presses on market. Thank you in advance.
RivennHewn
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Sometimes you CL to make a buck, sometimes to make things go away.
An individual sale on CL has no bearing on the actual value of an item.
An individual sale on CL has no bearing on the actual value of an item.
Of the more common Deltas, the DP600 is a "Rolls Royce" model. Very heavy, but runs like silk.
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tonyis
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I probably should have been a little more clear. I didn't mean to call them low end in a derogatory sense. They are quality drill presses, just towards the lower end of the spectrum feature wise. A number of manufacturers made good drill presses from that period, but my favorites would be a Buffalo 18 or Delta 17" press. Features that increase their desirability include the larger production table (especially one with t-slots), a table lift mechanism, a head lift mechanism, a foot feed, or a power feed. The only one of these features that is a must have for me is the table lift mechanism. The others are nice to have, but can be hard to find. I'd also prefer one that has a slower speed range, but that isn't strictly necessary if you're only interested in woodworking.
Packard V8
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Of the more common old USA 14" DPs, the Delta and the Craftsman are usually considered the best. Walker-Turner, Powermatic, Atlas, Buffalo, et al, are equally good, but less often found.
Above, the discussion has taken two directions. The 14" is a light duty unit, but sufficient for most home shop use. The 15"- 18" units are getting toward the industrial end of the DP spectrum. Yes, they're smoother, more likely to have a table lift or a slow speed setup, but much larger, heavier, more expensive and less common.
jack vines
Above, the discussion has taken two directions. The 14" is a light duty unit, but sufficient for most home shop use. The 15"- 18" units are getting toward the industrial end of the DP spectrum. Yes, they're smoother, more likely to have a table lift or a slow speed setup, but much larger, heavier, more expensive and less common.
jack vines
lafester
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The dp220 is just small and lightweight compared to even the 15 inch delta. You can occasionally find a 15 with a table lift, but only with the production table. In the 15 inch category it is hard to beat a powermatic, clausing or wilton if you can find a deal. If you want delta, go for a 17 inch model. All of these, even dp 220s are getting harder and harder to find so it may take awhile. Taiwan dps can be an easier way to get started while you wait for something special.
Thank you very much for sharing your opinion concerning the presses. I am not from the machinery industry but from the Art industry. That is the reason why I am not very familiar with the best models made in US. However, I would love to purchase one of the most high-end models made in the 1930/1960/s. We have at the shop a Craftsman Bench DP 103.23640 by King Seeley for our wood and metal works. This is a great machine but very common. I would like to fine THE drill press, THE reference in this industry. People like Clausing, Walker Turner, Darra James, Delta, Atlas, Cincinnati, Rockwell and some like you, Buffalo. I agree with you, the lift mechanism is definitely a +. Here at the shop when we want to lift the table up, we have to swing and dance left and right with the table to try to adjust the height properly and this is not convenient. One drill press restorer advised me to buy a DP220 Delta Milwaukee 14". According to him, it is the top of the line. That is why I was surprised about your opinion about it. But maybe you're right, I just learn to take the right decision for this next acquisition. Thank you again.
Thank you very much for this advice, I did not know it but I will definitely consider it, Thank you again.
crguy
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If you get one like this with a counterbalanced sliding head, all that hassle of moving the table disappears.
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Thank you for this advice. By trying to find the one you suggested, I saw a Buffalo 15" yesterday but it was already sold. Do you think it is a rare model and a "reference" in the Machinery industry?. Thank you!
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tool_scrounge
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Pre 1957 Buffalo Forge drill press. Good quality drill press. Not as common as Delta but not that rare.
Thank you, according to you, which ones are rare?