Delta Unisaw and Jointer Pricing-Advice

[Model A Fan]

I'm considering buying a a 10" 5hp Delta Unisaw from a coworker who is moving. It is a USA made version, and he said he bought it probably in 1989. He's asking $800 for it including a power feeder and Delta brand dust collector. It also has a Biesmeyer fence and an extended cutting table out to 52 inches. There is also a mobile base.

He also has a "Delta Professional 6" Jointer" he's willing to "throw in" for an extra $300 including a dust collector for it. I'm not sure if I want the jointer but it seems like a good deal.

Overall it would be $1100 for the two pieces and their respective dust collectors. It would come with a stack of saw blades and a Freud Dado set.

Does this seem like a decent deal?

 

[The Cobbler]

I would say the saw & accessories are well worth the money. just an FWIW, it is single phase I assume?

 

[bubinga]

Good Deal Yes!!

 

[Model A Fan]

Sorry, forgot to mention it is 220v (240v whatever you need ).

 

[Verado1250]

Which way does the blade tilt? For most people, a left tilt saw is more desirable than a right tilt. If this is a left tilt saw, the price is average. If it's a right tilt, it seems a little high, if the saw is in good shape. Does this have the Bies fence, or the Uni-fence?

 

[tab2]

Love my Unisaw and around here that’s a nice price for the saw alone. Jointer is fair price especially with the DC.

 

[The Cobbler]

Which way does the blade tilt? For most people, a left tilt saw is more desirable than a right tilt. If this is a left tilt saw, the price is average. If it's a right tilt, it seems a little high, if the saw is in good shape. Does this have the Bies fence, or the Uni-fence?

if you read his post, the fence brand was mentioned ! LOL

 

[Model A Fan]

When facing the cabinet, the adjustment wheel is on the right, but I did not adjust it for angle, just up and down

I would have to see it again.

Here are the actual units in the description, just older models and used:

http://www.deltamachinery.com/products/dust-management/50-723-1-hp-motor-dust-collector

https://www.theequipmenthub.com/used-machinery/delta-36-850-4-speed-3-roll-power-feeder/

https://www.finewoodworking.com/2005/10/25/6-in-jointer-37-195-review

https://www.finewoodworking.com/2006/06/01/10-in-cabinet-saw-36-l31x-review

There is a cast iron extra wing for the left hand side of the blade. It appears to be a left hand tilt blade based on the description.

 

[Model A Fan]

Any further input? Thanks!

 

[GrayFlattop]

If I were in the market for decent woodworking equipment, I'd jump on it - particularly if everything is in good condition. The price is more than fair - particularly with all of the extras.

For reference, New I paid ~$1800 for my Powermatic 66 with Biesemeyer in 1984. I picked-up a used 6" Powermatic jointer around the same time for $75 that needed a motor and magnetic starter. And a set of blades and bearings.

You're getting a mobile base a dust collector and a power feed on top of it.

It's a square deal - dive in.

 

[Voi]

Any further input? Thanks!

I think it's a good deal with two dust collectors, mobile base, power feed and the dado stack.

Does the mobile base support the entire right side rip capacity? If so, an even better deal.

I wouldn't worry too much about left vs right tilt given the fence. With the Beismeyer you can move the fence to the other side of the blade and avoid trapped bevel cuts since both sides of the fence are flat, unlike the uni-fence.

However, it's possible that the extra right side rip capacity is from the fence rails being shifted to the right, leaving insufficient fence rail to the left of the blade. I highly doubt this is the case and even if it were it's only a minor inconvenience in my opinion.

 

[jonshonda]

I would buy it, make up a story how you have a budget and would do $200 for the joiner. I am almost positive he will take the offer.

 

[rlitman]

When facing the cabinet, the adjustment wheel is on the right...

Then it is a left tilt.

The biggest advantage I find to a left tilt is in stability. With the motor's weight hanging on the left, I do not need any support legs under my 60" commercial weight Biesemeyer to keep the saw base flat on the floor with the fence in any position. My father has a right tilt saw, with the lighter weight Biesemeyer (they had a consumer version that I believe was discontinued), and he had to build legs under his right side table for safety, or else it is too tippy.

I have an Incra miter sled, and had to install everything backwards to run it on the right side of the blade.

...However, it's possible that the extra right side rip capacity is from the fence rails being shifted to the right, leaving insufficient fence rail to the left of the blade. I highly doubt this is the case and even if it were it's only a minor inconvenience in my opinion.

You can't shift a Biesemeyer much more than a couple of inches. The L rails that bolt to the table each have two notches that align with your miter slots. If the notch isn't aligned with the slot, the rail will cover the ends of the miter slot, and then you can't use a miter gauge or sled.

 

[shoot summ]

The saw is a great deal, the jointer is OK, having him to a package for $1000.

 

[Max]

I agree that the saw plus accessories is a great deal. If it was here I'd be rolling it into my garage about now. The jointer plus dust collector is a good but not great deal.

Max

 

[brianh]

Its a good deal, I lucked out a few years ago and got a 1959 unisaw at an estate auction for 150 I would have paid a lot more, I use it in the shop every day.

 

[thooks]

BUY BOTH RIGHT NOW.

Excellent pricing.

 

[Model A Fan]

I told him I'll take it Hopefully its as cool as I think it is!

 

[Voi]

You can't shift a Biesemeyer much more than a couple of inches.

In some cases, yes. I've shifted one on a hybrid saw 14" as I recall. It was a common mod at the time. I don't believe I had to tap any new holes either.

It was not a Unisaw, however.

 

[bubinga]

In some cases, yes. I've shifted one on a hybrid saw 14" as I recall. It was a common mod at the time. I don't believe I had to tap any new holes either.

It was not a Unisaw, however.

Make your Own Notches.......

 

[never enuf time]

Great deal , you won't regret it

 

[PNWguy]

I think that was a pretty good deal for the Northwest. Good deal on the saw, especially with the extras. Decent deal on the jointer.

 

[Marctrees]

Sorry, forgot to mention it is 220v (240v whatever you need ).

Just make sure it is single phase.

Marc

 

[Firebrick43]

I don't think there were any 5hp unisaws that were single phase. I thought 240v single phase was limited (offered by delta) to 3hp.

That being said, many were converted. My unisaw was a 3phase 5hp model originally from a school but was remotored to 3hp single by the shop teacher who bought it from the schools auction when the liquidated the shop program(saw was only used 1 semester).

 

[Snap_cap]

I don't think there were any 5hp unisaws that were single phase. I thought 240v single phase was limited (offered by delta) to 3hp.

That being said, many were converted. My unisaw was a 3phase 5hp model originally from a school but was remotored to 3hp single by the shop teacher who bought it from the schools auction when the liquidated the shop program(saw was only used 1 semester).

Yes, they were offered.

From the 2002-2003 Delta catalog, page 3:

3 HP Single Phase: Left Tilt 36-L31 Right Tilt 36-R31
5 HP Single Phase: Left Tilt 36-L51 Right Tilt 36-R51
5 HP Three Phase: Left Tilt 36-L53 Right Tilt 36-R53

All were available with customer choice of fence system (Unifence, Biesemeyer Commercial, Biesemeyer Home Shop)

 

[Marctrees]

VERY easy to see if a saw is Right or Left tilt from 100' away...

Looking at the front of the saw, where you stand feeding material in...

There will be a wheel you will see the face of...

That is the elevation wheel..

The tilt wheel is on the SIDE of the saw...

If there is an arc slot in the saw body that goes to the left and up from the front elevation wheel..

It is right tilt.

If the arc slot goes to the RIGHT and up...

It is a left tilt.

So, now you can tell immediately what it is when looking at a CL ad.

Marc

 

[Snap_cap]

VERY easy to see if a saw is Right or Left tilt from 100' away...

Looking at the front of the saw, where you stand feeding material in...

There will be a wheel you will see the face of...

That is the elevation wheel..

The tilt wheel is on the SIDE of the saw...

If there is an arc slot in the saw body that goes to the left and up from the front elevation wheel..

It is right tilt.

If the arc slot goes to the RIGHT and up...

It is a left tilt.

So, now you can tell immediately what it is when looking at a CL ad.

Marc

Get both.

I have my Dad's 1 HP Right Tilt that he bought new in 1958 and I bought a new 3 HP Left Tilt in 2008.

 

[Marctrees]

I prefer Left tilt, my existing Tenesee made Powermatic.. but I recently purchased a 1950's Delta Rockwell "12-14" that is right tilt.

I am right handed, left tilt feels more natural.

Both saws have Biesmeyer 52" fences.

Once I put the 12-14 into use, I will have to learn to adapt to the Right tilt.

Google Right vs Left tablesaw, you will learn opinions and why or why not.

Marc

 

[Marctrees]

Generally, everything else being equal, left tilts command a higher price on the used market.

Most of the Old Arn REAL industrial saws were Right tilt.

So, if someone wants one of those, like me, they have to get used to it.

Marc

 

[gnpenning]

Good to hear you are pulling the trigger on it. You should be happy with your decision. I would love to find a deal like the table saw and accessories.