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Between 485 & 705 SQ/FT Denver MCM garage expansion

Workspaces between 485 and 705 squarefeet.

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Oh fancy!

My mother mentioned you guys were expecting snow. Was 80 today there, no?

Can’t say I miss the massive ups and downs. :)


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Oh fancy!

My mother mentioned you guys were expecting snow. Was 80 today there, no?

Can’t say I miss the massive ups and downs. :)


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Tues was 80. Wed was snow. Once again, my apricot tree was fooled into blossoming before a freeze. No fruit again this year.

Love the design ideas/theme. Awaiting Porsche updates!
Thanks! Porsche is still waiting for me to have time and space. I did manage to track down a set of factory manuals that covers both 911s, so now I have no excuse for messing anything up.

@kwyjibo Great MCM thread combined with classic teutonic autos! Lovely 74 Carrera and Bimmer. Envious of your possessions. Keep up the MCM vibe on the house! Nice work. Don't ever compromise your vision and ideals.
Thanks for reading! I found someone willing to do the concrete work (they're actually doing the job as I type this) so I'm hoping that will help tie together all the projects so people can see the overall goal that I had in mind when I started planning a couple years ago.

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Is that going to be a large patio or....?
Hey TahitianG, it's been a while since I've seen you post. Hope all is well.
Yes, it's going to be a covered patio. There will be a pergola providing shade to most of the concrete in the photo. The completion of this concrete work means that I can move forward on another deck, the pergola, and more fencing for privacy.

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My eBay purchase showed up in better condition than described in the auction. My faith in eBay is restored. For now.
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I can’t get over those cabinets!!! And now you have some amazing original 911 manuals. Keep it coming!


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Those manuals look so nice.

Covered patio is going to be so nice! Are you going to fill in the gaps between slabs with plants? Or stone?

And thanks man, life has been good. Sold my house & the garage with it, so haven't been checking the site as often, your setup is improving at a really nice rate though. Enjoy it!
 
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I can’t get over those cabinets!!! And now you have some amazing original 911 manuals. Keep it coming!

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Thanks! As promised the 911 updates will mostly be limited to collecting stuff needed for the restoration until I "finish" the house projects. Today's find is a 380mm leather steering wheel that was used in the 914/6 and Carrera RSs. It needs to be recovered but the spokes and horn pad are in great shape. The 911T originally came with a larger wheel, but anyone who's looked through my posts knows that I'm picky about the primary contact points: seats, pedals and steering wheels.
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Those manuals look so nice.

Covered patio is going to be so nice! Are you going to fill in the gaps between slabs with plants? Or stone?

And thanks man, life has been good. Sold my house & the garage with it, so haven't been checking the site as often, your setup is improving at a really nice rate though. Enjoy it!
Congrats on the sale!
I'm looking for a good (cheap) source for Mexican beach pebbles, which is turning out to be a challenge. I tried plants as filler between some pavers in the frontyard and between the foot traffic and the dry heat, they didn't make it. Rocks should be minimal maintenance.
 

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I worked on the small deck off the front door stoop this afternoon. The decking is the same cedar with Penofin as the deck off the master bedroom. I should be finishing it tomorrow.
Oh, and I'm not happy with the Mexican beach pebbles search: the best price I've found so far is 10x the price of "regular" river rock. The cheaper ones are not as dark or consistently colored, but I don't think the difference in color is worth the extra $$$
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The niggle with round, smooth rock for infill is they stuff never stays put. You're constantly pushing it back where it came from. It does look nice and durable though.
 

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LOVE that concrete work! The yard is going to look amazing. I'm in awe of this place and hope to one day own a comparable property.
 

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That cedar is gorgeous! I’m looking to do a small porch on the front of our house with the same material. What kind of fasteners are you using?

Also, nice find on the steering wheel!


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The niggle with round, smooth rock for infill is they stuff never stays put. You're constantly pushing it back where it came from. It does look nice and durable though.
I agree, but I used jagged gravel at our old NH place and even though it generally locked together and stayed in place, it really hurt when you stepped on a rogue rock with bare feet. The good thing with the concrete pavers is that the rocks will have a hard time escaping from between the pavers.

LOVE that concrete work! The yard is going to look amazing. I'm in awe of this place and hope to one day own a comparable property.
Thanks Anth!

That cedar is gorgeous! IÂ’m looking to do a small porch on the front of our house with the same material. What kind of fasteners are you using?

Also, nice find on the steering wheel!


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I looked into hidden fasteners and it seemed like the Kreg deck jig had the best results without getting into a bunch of extra work. My only complaint is that I prefer torx over the square drive of the Kreg deck screws.

i feel you on the Mexican pebble cost. My house isnt as clean as yours so i said F the mexican and just went with river rock.
Yeah, I'm 99% sold on the river rock. But I'm going back to the rockyard one last time to look at both again.

The deck is now done. The photo is after I put the last trim boards on but before another shot of Penofin. Also, notice the downspout at the front corner of the house...
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I took down the downspout, trimmed a couple sections and re-attached it as a straight pipe directly into the French drain. I have a plan to put a wall (with a door) from the house to the garage that will help hide the downspout.
I actually took this photo to show the new medium height fence in the front yard. Now that I don't expect to need access to the backyard for bobcats or wheelbarrows, I could finally build the last of the decorative fences.
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Here's a fence detail: I put an extra board across the top to support the cap. The fence is low enough that I know people will sit on it. I did the same on the one in the background because I knew kids (and squirrels) would want to jump up on it.
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First image just shows how well everything has come together, simply stunning. Regarding the downpipe, have you ever considered running a "rain chain" type of setup? Not sure if it's in keeping with the period or not, but it could make a nice feature.
 
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First image just shows how well everything has come together, simply stunning. Regarding the downpipe, have you ever considered running a "rain chain" type of setup? Not sure if it's in keeping with the period or not, but it could make a nice feature.

Winner! :beer: Many of the mid-century modern houses originally had Japanese garden-inspired landscaping and the rain chain fits in this design. We're planning on putting up a rain chain, but in a different location. I've added a yellow line in the first photo to show where. There was a downspout, with the same design as the existing one in the photo, just to the left of the large window. In preparation for the rain chain, I put a catch basin for the French drain below the opening in the roof overhang and a rock with a curved face there to keep the splashing from going towards the siding. Because of the close proximity to the planned wall and the splashing of rain chains, I'm planning an enclosed downspout for the front location
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love the collection of euro cars and the place is really coming together. great work.
Thanks! I appreciate that you took the time to read and comment.
 

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I finally got back to finishing the windows at the front side of the garage. I had temporary stops to hold them in place and plastic sheeting to keep water off them because they were not waterproof yet. Today, I got the stops installed, caulked and painted, but I still need to caulk between the glass and stops.
Up soon: finish the cedar fence and gate in the foreground of the photo
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The deck/door combination looks great! This rain chain idea is super neat, I like that a bunch.
 
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The deck/door combination looks great! This rain chain idea is super neat, I like that a bunch.
We still haven't found the right one, but we're not in a big hurry because the funnel that took the place of the downspout is doing a good job directing the water to the right spot.

I didn't want to mention until the deal was done, but I got 3 tons of Mexican beach pebbles. I found a place willing to sell it to me at the wholesale price, which although it was still more than other river rocks, they were delivered for about 1/2 the cost of the nearest competitor. I've already spent some time distributing about a ton, the two bags were about equal size when delivered
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And, here is the patio in progress
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I have just been following along as you progress re home, cars and now this beautiful patio! Simply amazing work and attention to detail...having really enjoyed this one. Grant
 
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That's beautiful, it's really coming together nicely!

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I have just been following along as you progress re home, cars and now this beautiful patio! Simply amazing work and attention to detail...having really enjoyed this one. Grant
Thanks for all the kind words! I've been doing some landscaping and started on the wall/pergola but a this point its just oiling lumber and digging holes. We should have good weather this week so I hope to have an update by next weekend

Nice progress! You need some Salterini chairs like these....

....then it would be perfect!
Thanks for the comment. I've never seen those chairs with spring legs. They definitely would be great for the patio. I saw a photo of Nelson coconut chairs outdoors and thought they would be nice... except that they're a couple grand each :shocking:

The concrete patio looks amazing. Are you going to seal the concrete to prevent stains?
I wasn't planning on sealant for the concrete. I did briefly think about it for the rocks to make them darker but that just seemed like a step too far.

In other news - I starting on some work needed in the single garage
- installed another jackshaft opener
- after moving a bunch of stuff, started demo'ing the wall I need to rebuild/move. It's the wall in the background of this photo of the future front gate area

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Thanks for the comment. I've never seen those chairs with spring legs. They definitely would be great for the patio. I saw a photo of Nelson coconut chairs outdoors and thought they would be nice... except that they're a couple grand each :shocking:

Funny thing about those chairs, the Salterini stuff is all the rage for those into MCM metal. I started my collection long before then and paid an average of $15 for each one. I have a total of three (3) cantilever chairs and one (1) fixed leg chair (not pictured). I spent around $500 to have them sandblasted and powdercoated this past winter. They look amazing in person and are so comfortable! You are looking at around $1200-$2000 to pick up a restored set of four (4) of the cantilevers or any other version, and there are many variations. I found mine at estate sales where the people running the sales clearly did not have any idea of collectibility or value. You might luck out in your area if you keep your eyes peeled. Deals are still out there, but you have to be very lucky! If you are on Instagram, follow #salterini and you will see an amazing amount of cool chairs... :beer:

BTW, my wife and I are also MCM glass collectors. My kid's friends, and they are now adult age, say they are afraid to come into our house because of all the glass displayed....:lol_hitti. Lots of Blenko and L.G. Smith among others....
 
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gearhead1960 - I really like some of the MCM glass, but it wouldn't take very long for an accident to take them out in our house. <cough> wife <cough>

I don't have much for updates. The lumber yard was out of 1x6 cedar for the patio wall, so at this point its still just a few posts in the ground. And the weather hasn't been cooperating. This morning I came out to see flattened plants because of the heavy, wet snow. I spliced in a before photo on the left side to show how tall the lilacs beyond the posts were before the snow

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gearhead1960 - I really like some of the MCM glass, but it wouldn't take very long for an accident to take them out in our house. <cough> wife <cough>

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Hi, my name is Mark and I have a glass collecting problem...LOL.



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Mark - Those are very cool, but I get nervous just looking at them.

Thanks to a series of thunderstorms and backorders at the lumberyard, I don't have the updates that I was hoping for a couple weeks ago. A while back, my wife had asked me to make the patio more useable. Because I had more time to research plants for the yard, I came up with a better plan for the landscaping. So off to the nursery.
First, I finished the fence and gate for the side yard. I still need to finish excavating to lower and slope the ground behind the gate.
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Here is view looking out towards the street from the future site of the front gate. There's going to be a lot more plants going in on the street side of the fence.
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Here is the view of the house from the back of the garage. I still need to find a good plant to fill an opening in the front center of the planting area.
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The lumber yard hopes to have the cedar boards this week, so I should have an update on the pergola soon.
 

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Update on the pergola - I picked up the T&G clear cedar and got most of it oiled and up. I'm not sure how high up to go, but I think that I will leave the center section lower to mimic a clerestory window. The two outside posts will support beams that will come toward where I was standing to take the photo. The posts will be trimmed to the same height as the garage walls. I still need to order the rest of the lumber and glulams but I haven't fully decided on the design.
On the right side you can see a trench that I dug for a foundation - I'm going ahead with a plan to have a section of ground-face cmu wall, that will hopefully be the fireproof backing of a wood-burning fireplace, like those made by Malm. The blocks should be ready in about a week. The same blocks will also go into a short retaining wall in the front yard (I'll post photos when something happens out there).
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I love it!

How do you plan of keeping the Malm Fireplace from rusting out? Seems like water or in your case snow, settles in the bottom when not in use and would rust out.

Do you drill some holes? Special cover?

Just curious. I love those but have been afraid of that.
 
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I love it!

How do you plan of keeping the Malm Fireplace from rusting out? Seems like water or in your case snow, settles in the bottom when not in use and would rust out.

Do you drill some holes? Special cover?

Just curious. I love those but have been afraid of that.

Thanks for the question -
I plan on doing the same through-the-roof installation as you would for an interior install. I'm still figuring out the details but the section of the pergola that is directly above the fireplace will be solid or semi-solid which should help keep some rain and snow off of it. I've also seen some people use a cover. To protect the insides, there will be a chimney cap at the top of the exhaust that will keep most of the water from getting down into the pipe. The bottom of the firebox has concrete poured in place (at least for the ones that I've actually seen in person) so any water that gets in can't drain. I've looked a few from craigslist and they all had some rust along the bottom, but they were either stored or used outdoors without proper protection.
 

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Thanks for the info. Looking forward to seeing the finished project.
I really love following this thread. We also live in a mid century house (cliff may) in Long Beach, CA. I like to see everything you have done.

Keep up the good work!
 
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Not much to update - MiL visited for a few days. I did manage to test fit a frame for a patio door. Siding pieces are mostly trimmed, just need to oil them. I hope that the door will be done by the weekend.
I still haven't heard from the concrete block guys.
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A few key things should be delivered soon:
- glulams for the pergola and more cedar boards later this week
- ground-face cmu (aka fancy cinder blocks) sometime this week
- mini-split for the garage

I finished the door but I'm short a few boards because I decided to start the boards one course lower all around to discourage raccoons and skunks from coming into the patio.
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I'm reusing one of the knobs that I swapped out when we moved into the house. It's a standard size that doesn't work on an almost 3" deep door, so I had to "countersink" the knob. Also, I don't know how long the knob will last in the exposed location but I have two more sets that I can reuse if the guts in this one rust out.
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Wow this is really coming together and looks awesome. Someday Ill have a MCM house. How is the E9 doing by the way.
 

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I actually really like that countersunk detail, it's a great touch that would have otherwise never existed if it wasn't for the "problem" you encountered.

Also, I thought this might be of interest to fellow MCM fans in this thread. Modernist Australia is a website that posts up all current listings of MCM houses for sale in our country. It's nice to see what's out there.
https://www.modernistaustralia.com/
 
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