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Depressing Craftsman tool box

Chris Adams

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I buy and sell boxes of all sorts, but the last year have been mostly the big brand boxes (Snappy, Mac, Matco) but I have messed with lots of Craftsman in the past, ranging from the cheapie homeowner line to Craftsman Industrial.

Today, on a whim while walking through the swap meet, mostly for exercise, I bought a 'new' homeowner box. Cheap 5 drawer, an obvious scratch and ding refugee.
It cost more than it should, 55 bucks, but heck, I haven't messed with a box is several weeks so it was just an excuse to fiddle in the shop.

Now I've bought and sold about ten of these homeowner bottom chests. Friction slides, light weight.

It was amusing as the vendor artfully showed how good the box was by only opening the top three drawers...

So I tossed this one in the Tracker and drug it home.
It had two un-anchored drawers on the bottom.


Fixing it was nothing.
The bent up slide anchors on the bottom the drawers took about ten minutes with a sheet metal hammer and a small dolly, another couple minutes straightening the bent rail, and about two minutes removing the rather awful stickers Sears had slapped over the box when they decided to sell it cheap.
So now the box looks no worse than the floor models at Sears.

Now the depressing thing; The box is ****. The metal was so thin that as I type this, I'm bleeding from 'paper cuts' from the thin metal on the box.
As I said, I've fixed and sold something like ten of these exact model.
This one I could fold up the drawers in my bare hands, crush the body like a beer can.
None of the older boxes was like this. The boxes with the same part number, build two or more years ago, were much heavier.


This box retails allegedly for 199.99, but is always on sale at 109.99 at Sears.

One reason I picked up the box was I was thinking of installing ball bearing slides on the drawers.
Silly thing to do, but I get people asking all the time 'can I convert it to ball bearing?' usually about some older Mac, or SnapOn, and I was thinking of actually trying to do it.
Sort of a feasibility study.
I don't think the sidewalls in this box could hold the rivets without tearing.
Sad and depressing.
 
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If no one buys the ****, they'll stop making it. I agree, they (and many other brands) are ****. It isn't just tools. Look around your house. If it is newer, there's OSB, MDF, and many other cut-rate materials. We are in the market for a new kitchen table and in looking around everything is laminated particle board - unless you go to Hickory, NC and pay $2K for something. The best stuff is someone else's old stuff in the consignment store. Blame it on raw material costs in an exploding global economy (ironically funded in no small part by our outsourcing), pressure on corporate margins, and a disregard for quality. But hey, we just keep buying it anyway. It is going to get worse before it gets better.
 
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'Paper Steel.' :(

(Thanks a lot, big U.S. corporation.)

Seriously, paper cuts from the steel, it was that thin on the front lip. I've cut my fingers on CSPS (Hammerhead) boxes once or twice but this is new on a Craftsman.
 

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I am so sorry to resurrect such an old thread.....

I want to know how simple it is in converting an old Craftsman tool chest from the regular friction slides over to ball-bearing slides?

I don't have a lot of money to purchase a new chest.
 
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I am so sorry to resurrect such an old thread.....

I want to know how simple it is in converting an old Craftsman tool chest from the regular friction slides over to ball-bearing slides?

I don't have a lot of money to purchase a new chest.

Not cost effective at all and most of the time not even possible without quite a bit of butchering. Not to mention the purchase of the BB slides them selves isn't cheap. The harbor freigth 44" box at ~$350 is probably the best new box deal going. Otherwise there is always the used market.

If you would have started your own thread you probably would get more responses. Maybe see if moderator can separate the post for you. :beer:
 

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I have heard that the next lighter gauge of sheet metal is transparent ! Ken.
 

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If no one buys the ****, they'll stop making it. I agree, they (and many other brands) are ****. It isn't just tools. Look around your house. If it is newer, there's OSB, MDF, and many other cut-rate materials. We are in the market for a new kitchen table and in looking around everything is laminated particle board - unless you go to Hickory, NC and pay $2K for something. The best stuff is someone else's old stuff in the consignment store. Blame it on raw material costs in an exploding global economy (ironically funded in no small part by our outsourcing), pressure on corporate margins, and a disregard for quality. But hey, we just keep buying it anyway. It is going to get worse before it gets better.

I find it funny how companies try to pass off cheap materials like OSB and MDF as green materials since it is made from waste or by-products from manufacturing. Cheap to make and pure garbage.

Strange about the box. Don't doubt it, but I've always had good luck with Craftsman boxes; even their low level cheap stuff. What I've always liked about them is they are still assembled in the USA for the most part.
 
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If no one buys the ****, they'll stop making it. I agree, they (and many other brands) are ****. It isn't just tools. Look around your house. If it is newer, there's OSB, MDF, and many other cut-rate materials. We are in the market for a new kitchen table and in looking around everything is laminated particle board - unless you go to Hickory, NC and pay $2K for something..

To be fair, one of the best purchases I've made in recent years is a Vitro kitchen set (that's diner furniture) which I believe is some sort of pressed material underneath the hard surface. The table and chairs have been indestructible.

Kitchen cabinets, especially nice wood ones, have always struck me as an insanely overpriced commodity. Just to share a site I ran into, this strikes me as a brilliant idea...

http://www.thekitchn.com/a-lowbudget-yet-sleek-unusual-122688

On an older small-house kitchen remodel, gut the room to the studs, add windows where there were cabinets, and go 100% restaurant stainless 'furniture'.
 

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Craftsman stopped making anything decent about the same time they put their CRAFTSMAN logo in a rectangle. I feel fortunate to have the late-80's, early-90's vintage boxes that have never let me down and have been solid work horses since day one. Of course, compared to my Snap-On box, they're like toys, but hell, at least they work when compared to what's out there now.
 
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