design preference...
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7echo
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I like the B, but the other 2 windows are too far apart, at least to my eye.
josall
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A -won't waste useable wall space with double window.
944recycler
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A - i agree about the wall space.
Stuart in MN
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bczygan
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The windows on the plan don't match the elevations. Window on elevation ends up in bathroom. Windows close to the corners weaken the structure and keep you from butting cabinets or shelving into the corner creating wasted spaces in the corners. Same is true with man door. Us the "golden mean" for shape relationships. Is the attic going to be storage or an accessible room? How about windows in the gable ends (Attic)? What are the wall heights? What roof pitch does the main house have? Match it if possible. Lay your elevations out to scale on graph paper to get the correct proportions. Match window sizes and height relationships and trim details to main house as much as possible (As you are indicating). Think about skylights. Think about the height of the bottom of the windows above finish floor level. If below top of workbench height they will interrupt any benches or storage but will match house windows better. If shorter to allow benches, how will they look on the outside? Which side shows from the street, and the house?
Bill
Arch. Designer in Detroit
Bill
Arch. Designer in Detroit
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bluesman2a
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D: none of the above.
I'm all about the usable wall-space and security. I put windows in the shop but made the narrow (can't crawl through), up high so I wouldn't loose wall-space.
Think transome...
I'm all about the usable wall-space and security. I put windows in the shop but made the narrow (can't crawl through), up high so I wouldn't loose wall-space.
Think transome...
2chipped
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I like "a".
But...........not a big fan of eyebrow dormers but who am I?
But...........not a big fan of eyebrow dormers but who am I?
ddawg16
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I'm going with A as well.....wall space would be more usable...
Except I would have the window high enough so that you could get a workbench under it.....nothing like natural light for task lighting....
On your side door, I would move it at least 2' from the wall....you should have enough space so that you can build storage right up to the corner....
Same thing with the bathroom door.....I would move it to the outside corner....and the head to the main wall....and rotate it so that it points inline with the room....you should be able to make the room a little more narrow....and plan on a big *** sink....or, put the sink on the outside of the bathroom.
You have a lot of windows on the long side of the garage.....I would reduce it by one....never enough wall space....
Otherwise, nice layout....very nice space.....I think your smart in the attention to detail on how the outside looks....
Except I would have the window high enough so that you could get a workbench under it.....nothing like natural light for task lighting....
On your side door, I would move it at least 2' from the wall....you should have enough space so that you can build storage right up to the corner....
Same thing with the bathroom door.....I would move it to the outside corner....and the head to the main wall....and rotate it so that it points inline with the room....you should be able to make the room a little more narrow....and plan on a big *** sink....or, put the sink on the outside of the bathroom.
You have a lot of windows on the long side of the garage.....I would reduce it by one....never enough wall space....
Otherwise, nice layout....very nice space.....I think your smart in the attention to detail on how the outside looks....
rasit
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First choice: no windows for wall space and security
Second choice: A for wall space
Second choice: A for wall space
blkhonda1991
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i like "c" but plan wise id rethink the future bathroom location, tuck it into the corner of the bumped out area, i think when you finally build it you'll regret where you placed it
a lot of good input...thank you...
just a few additional thoughts...
the "people" door has been moved away from the corner...i forget how far...but more than 2' for sure...
i had similar thoughts about the bathroom in it's location...but, that's where it stays...i did put the toilet on the outside wall and plan on putting in a pocket door rather than a swinging door...I have nice metal shelving that will go between the bathroom and the wall with the "people" door...
i also thought about the big span between windows on the "left"...would like a window in the bathroom for ventilation...and then thought it would look goofy to just have one window on the section, or to have the second window in the middle of the wall...we'll also have the yard in front nicely landscaped and probably have some focal point with vegetation and/or outdoor furniture or decoration in that space...
Any advice on where to put a heater/furnace? Gas is coming into the building right where the people door is drawn on the floor plan...also where the electricity is coming in...thought maybe right at that corner...but the workspace will be on the opposite side of the garage...maybe some quick duct work to run some of it over there?...or do I run the gas in the building over to that other side and put it in the SW corner of the "deep" section of the garage...the heat won't be on all winter long...just when I'm out working...
I planned on having the windows high enough so I can get a work bench underneath it...and planned on having a workbench the length (or most of the length) of the wall with the windows in question...
I do worry about security with the windows...my plan is to put some mirror film on it and then put some vertical steel bars on the inside...at least for the 3 windows on the alley side...
Here's a couple pictures to better visualize the elements that I plan to put above the windows...
second floor windows would be like option C...bottom windows like option B...
a few more...
just a few additional thoughts...
the "people" door has been moved away from the corner...i forget how far...but more than 2' for sure...
i had similar thoughts about the bathroom in it's location...but, that's where it stays...i did put the toilet on the outside wall and plan on putting in a pocket door rather than a swinging door...I have nice metal shelving that will go between the bathroom and the wall with the "people" door...
i also thought about the big span between windows on the "left"...would like a window in the bathroom for ventilation...and then thought it would look goofy to just have one window on the section, or to have the second window in the middle of the wall...we'll also have the yard in front nicely landscaped and probably have some focal point with vegetation and/or outdoor furniture or decoration in that space...
Any advice on where to put a heater/furnace? Gas is coming into the building right where the people door is drawn on the floor plan...also where the electricity is coming in...thought maybe right at that corner...but the workspace will be on the opposite side of the garage...maybe some quick duct work to run some of it over there?...or do I run the gas in the building over to that other side and put it in the SW corner of the "deep" section of the garage...the heat won't be on all winter long...just when I'm out working...
I planned on having the windows high enough so I can get a work bench underneath it...and planned on having a workbench the length (or most of the length) of the wall with the windows in question...
I do worry about security with the windows...my plan is to put some mirror film on it and then put some vertical steel bars on the inside...at least for the 3 windows on the alley side...
Here's a couple pictures to better visualize the elements that I plan to put above the windows...
second floor windows would be like option C...bottom windows like option B...
a few more...
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Thanks for that comment...it's really needed...This property is a pretty big local landmark...lots of history to it (first "mansion" in town built by a Lumberman who would watch his lumber come floating down the river from the widows walk up top...and then it become "The Bird House" where a number of kids would bring injured birds and the couple who lived here would bring them back to health...we feel more like we are just taking care of it until the next time it changes hand and really want to do right by it...and sometimes I get thinking...man...this is a garage...why so much time/thought/money into how it looks...but again, I think it's the right thing to do...
Well...with less than 4 weeks 'tll the walls go up and the roof goes on, I've settled on an exterior design...I think...maybe...well... 
This will be what you would see looking at it from the south...from the road...
It's a garage...but was hoping to make it look more like a house from the road
Cedar siding on the walls...cedar shingles in the gable...windoweaves trim/bracketry similar to the house...
Thoughts?
A quick question...with the cedar siding...I plan to paint it...do you think I can get away with the grade of cedar siding with tight knots in it or would I be WAY ahead getting the clear grade?
Also...I would like to make a template to cut out the brackets...Would using a piece of 1/8" steel hold up to the abuse of dragging a rotozip or similar tool along the edge of a 1"x board for a whole bunch of brackets...could I go with thinner metal...or would I have to go with thicker metal? Or are there other ideas for making that template?
Thanks!
Patrick
This will be what you would see looking at it from the south...from the road...
It's a garage...but was hoping to make it look more like a house from the road
Cedar siding on the walls...cedar shingles in the gable...windoweaves trim/bracketry similar to the house...
Thoughts?
A quick question...with the cedar siding...I plan to paint it...do you think I can get away with the grade of cedar siding with tight knots in it or would I be WAY ahead getting the clear grade?
Also...I would like to make a template to cut out the brackets...Would using a piece of 1/8" steel hold up to the abuse of dragging a rotozip or similar tool along the edge of a 1"x board for a whole bunch of brackets...could I go with thinner metal...or would I have to go with thicker metal? Or are there other ideas for making that template?
Thanks!
Patrick
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JC23
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I vote for two small doors to make it look like a carriage house rather than a new garage. That is, if you can.
I did that on mine as it sort of mimics the 1870 house. I went with two, 9X9 doors that I made look like carriage house doors complete with windows (fake), door handles and hinges. In reality, they are just OVH doors.
I did that on mine as it sort of mimics the 1870 house. I went with two, 9X9 doors that I made look like carriage house doors complete with windows (fake), door handles and hinges. In reality, they are just OVH doors.
clkimmel
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Have you considered hardy board siding?
green.bubbly
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Personally, the window spacing should be uniform on both sections. On the right, they are too close, on the left, they are too far apart. But that is just me, I like symmetry. Maybe add a door in the center on the left side?
Either way, it will be a sweet garage.
Either way, it will be a sweet garage.
I haven't...
I know there's a lot more maintenance with the wood, but just feel like I should use it for the "history" and to match the house. I'm sure from the road no one would know the difference...but for whatever reason, rationale or not, I'm stuck on wood...
Definately will be looking for garage doors that have a carriage house styling...