Desulfacater - My Testing

[Teken]

So today I received a free Infinitum Desulfacater in the mail all the way from Taiwan. For many years I have read, watched, and heard of friends, and those I know on the Internet using said devices.

The end goal for many is to extend the useful life of their investments in batteries. Those involved in Off Grid Solar can appreciate the amount of investment in quality batteries.

Unless you spend thousands on Rolls Saurette batteries which can give you more than 10 years of guaranteed battery life usage. One needs to ensure battery maintenance and proper DOD (depth of discharge) is followed and adhered to.

More on the DOD factor and other related matters.

1. My goal is to test if this device works.
2. See if it can restore a battery that is clearly beyond saving.
3. How it can assist me in the long term use of my investment.

Below is the initial link to the video I just made about the item. I will report back in the next 2-4 weeks and let everyone know if its a success or a complete failure.

I have aprox 26 APC UPS GBC batteries which are in many states of discharge. I obtained them from work for free and simply were throw aways as we have a strict use life.

Regardless of the voltage and the load test we conduct, pass, fail, if they meet a set *in place* usage they are pulled out.

Lucky for me it means I can be green and recycle and also divert these batteries to another life. So, for those interested in this thread please do supply some feed back and your personal experience, or expectations of the outcome.

Please bare in mind some of the batteries are at 9.7 volts, and they are 12 volt batteries. I truly don't believe a 12 volt battery at the SOC (state of charge) can be recovered from 9.70 DCV.

Insight . . .

Teken . . .

 

[ForceFed70]

I'm certainly interested!

What I'd like to see is the following:
- Battery charged for 24hrs then a load applied while the discharge rate (voltage over time) is recorded.
- Miracle battery fixer and other restoration techniques applied
- Battery charged for 24hrs then the same load is applied while the discharge rate (voltage over time) is recorded once again.
- Compare pre and post restoration results.

 

[where2]

I'm curious how this goes. My supply at work has dried up, but that doesn't mean I don't have anything with batteries in it. I have quite a few wet battery devices.

 

[snooter]

there pulsing the wave in..its pretty much theory..only thing i think and believe is your charger needs a cold battery charge option for below 32 degrees...some have a probe that can be placed near or on the battery but if on the battery you end up with hot spots..i bought a NOCO (has cold battery/agm mode)...american mom and pop company for $50....one of my better purchases

ps: my use is 12v wet cell lead acid (truck battery) and small 6v..2 days and my NOCO has a 3 year old battery up to snuff.....whatever ya get make sure it cycles in the 900ma or less on first cycle..

 

[Teken]

I have checked the test battery and after removing the surface charge the resting voltage is 11.72 and holding steady.

I will let it sit and desulfacate for the remainder of the 2 weeks or when the battery can hold a steady 12.9 VDC.

Once the battery can maintain this threshold I shall place it on a carbon pile load tester and see how it reacts to repeated current draws. I will video tape the before and after so others can see.

After doing some more you tubing I saw how the *sealed* batteries I had could be open and water replaced should it be required. I plan on taking a look at the few of the batteries that are at 9.7 volts.

Assuming the cells are not shorted out I will attempt to add water, desulficate, and charge these batteries and report back with a video.

So far I am pretty interested in the results as its not what I had expected. But, as stated prior, until a load test is performed and real world 20 hour drain is placed on this battery I will not give it a pass.

Teken . . .

 

[where2]

I've got one or two of the 17Ah size from a serious UPS that are reading 10.5v or less and sound dry inside. I may have to pop the caps and add some distilled water.

Two weeks? That's how long your supposed to desulphate them?? I never ran my pattern charger desulphate option for more than 24 hours... Hmmm. Might have to try that.

 

[Teken]

I've got one or two of the 17Ah size from a serious UPS that are reading 10.5v or less and sound dry inside. I may have to pop the caps and add some distilled water.

Two weeks? That's how long your supposed to desulphate them?? I never ran my pattern charger desulphate option for more than 24 hours... Hmmm. Might have to try that.

Here is a three day follow up:

Teken . . .

 

[Teken]

Checking today and the battery is holding a rock steady 12.50 VDC. I will check back in another week or so and hopefully it will be at 12.90 VDC by then.

At that time we can do some real work on this battery and conduct a few carbon pile load tests to confirm if this whole process is worth the time and effort.

Teken . . .

 

[Mr.N]

I use to work on the batteries that ran the black box for commercial aircraft,
I was surprised at first how many batteries could be saved and put back into service.

Thanks for taking the time and posting your results.

 

[Teken]

I use to work on the batteries that ran the black box for commercial aircraft,
I was surprised at first how many batteries could be saved and put back into service.

Thanks for taking the time and posting your results.

I have grouped the first 4 video's together so others could follow the test. I will report back next week and see where the battery is at.

The new linked video's can be found here:

Teken . . .

 

[Rickcnc]

Any Updates?

 

[svronthmve]

Yes, any updates?

And can you share how / where you received the free inifinitum from?

 

[Teken]

Any Updates?

Yes, any updates?

And can you share how / where you received the free inifinitum from?

I am sad to report the battery actually got worse . .. Having said this the battery was known to be dead. I don't believe using this device to rejuvenate a battery so far gone is fair, or doable.

I have a couple more batteries lined up and will reply back on how they perform. As I had suspected the one that held the 12.8 VDC.

Could not output enough current to perform any meaningful work. Under actual high load the battery just went kaput.

I received the item free from a colleague who knows I am into trying out new things. It wasn't given to me free from the maker or anything. I apologize if I was unclear on that point.

Will report back on the next three battery packs.

Regards

Teken . . .

 

[jptbay]

Update?

 

[awdblazer]

you really need to measure the specific gravity of the battery and also internal resistance of the batteries
we bring dead batteries back to life all the time at work, place either the affected cell on and equalize charge or the battery bank usually for days to weeks

 

[Teken]

The batteries that were 9.** volts did not recover. One was shorted out inside so no hope for that little guy.

The other six batteries that were 12.0 - 12.1 volts did in fact recover. Prior to using the desulphicator after a steady charge, and float. They would start to lose their charge pretty quickly over a 7 day period.

Now, they appear to hold their charge and stay at 12.8 volts. The problem is that they do not provide the same amount of current as the newer batteries. I believe at the end of the day this device is good for extending the life of a battery pack.

It won't help you recover a shorted, dead battery.

At the end of the day I will need to try this device on a standard SLA battery, deep cycle, and gel cells based on the automotive style. These little 7.5 amp hour UPS batteries are not the same as a standard battery.

Teken . . .