DeWalt 1/2" cordless high-torque coming

[proscriptus]

For my non-Milwaukee friends, I just saw a thing on a new DCF900 series impact--1,000 lbs.ft. According to Torque Test Channel, Milwaukee usually overrates their impacts and DeWalt underrates, so this should be a big boy.

https://www.autoguide.com/new-dewalt-high-torque-impact

 

[rancherbill]

I looking forward to all the Milwaukee guys having a conniption fit.

I'm going to get some popcorn.

 

[mark-NJ]

delete.

 

[CallumRD1]

More competition in the market is good for everyone, no matter which battery system you use. Innovation is better than stagnation.

 

[dr_clyde]

I looking forward to all the Milwaukee guys having a conniption fit.

I'm going to get some popcorn.

Why would people with Milwaukee care what Dewalt does?

 

[mrvm]

Why would people with Milwaukee care what Dewalt does?

 

[dr_clyde]

I don't have Dewalt cordless stuff, I don't give two shits what they come out with.

I have a few tools from a variety of brands, I just get whatever I need when I need it. Brand really doesn't matter to me on that stuff. I have Metabo drills, grinders and impact drivers, Makita for a few things, Milwaukee for a few things, Bosch at home for a drill, impact driver and sawzall.

I have a few Milwaukee things, and they're fine, but I don't know why I should care about Dewalt just because they came out with something new? If my current stuff dies, I'll pay attention when I need to buy something new.

 

[mrvm]

I’ve accumulated a few different battery platforms over the years and now that I’ve got some battery adapters that work great between DW>Milw>Mak my choices for nearly any specific cordless tool for a job or deal is wide open.

 

[proscriptus]

I’ve accumulated a few different battery platforms over the years and now that I’ve got some battery adapters that work great between DW>Milw>Mak my choices for nearly any specific cordless tool for a job or deal is wide open.

Sounds like maybe those adaptors are better than they used to be?

 

[qqzj]

Confused. Why is it better than the current 899?

 

[dchawk81]

Confused. Why is it better than the current 899?

 

[dchawk81]

I have the Milwaukee 2767 and it's powerful and such and I also have the IR whatever the first one was and it's powerful too and such, but IMHO all the bigger cordless rattle too much to make me excited to use them all the time.

I actually prefer air or even the Amazon Avidpower just because it's not so arm numbing.

Plus it's always cool to do important **** with cheap tools.

 

[Professional Tool User]

delete.

 

[mrvm]

Sounds like maybe those adaptors are better than they used to be?

I’ve been testing them out on different brand cordless tools and they work fine. For the battery adapters the general rule is not to charge with them. I usually leave them on a particular tool so I only need to pack one charger.

 

[darkzero]

Why would people with Milwaukee care what Dewalt does?

Yeah....maybe fan boys?

I switched to Milwaukee from Dewalt in 2015. All my cordless tools are only MW now but I'm not a MW fan boy. I have no interest in their hand tools & other stuff.

I wasn't mad when Makita beat MW's Mid-Torque or when Dewalt later beat it too. Not gonna make me go & buy the next best tool to chase numbers. By now it just how the game is these days (I hate using that word, I hate when people say "game changer" ). X will be on top, then Y will beat X. Then Z may beat X & Y. Then eventually X will beat them all again.

 

[Snapped-off]

What's their current high torque numbers? I don't keep up with Dewalt.

 

[rancherbill]

Why would people with Milwaukee care what Dewalt does?

You didn't read the article where it says Milwaukee inflates all their specs

 

[dnschmidt]

As a Milwaukee fan boy, Makita fan boy, Metabo (the real Metabo not the Hikoki Metabo) fan boy, Bosch fan boy and DeWalt fanboy. And yes, I have all of their battery platforms. All I can say is great. This drives the technology forward. That stated I use the big Milwaukee just about never and use the Mid-Torque and the M12 Stubby at least 90% of the time. If **** gets real I have an Aircat 1250K that can answer the call. I don't work on construction equipment but on a Porsche and a Toyota Camry. Since I never use my High-Torque I'm not going to buy the new Dewalt although I do have the new Dewalt Atomic compact which is certainly superior to the Milwaukee compact. On the other hand the Milwaukee cordless M12 ratchets are so much smaller than the new Dewalts that I consider the new DeWalts useless. Buy the best tool for the job. Who cares who makes it?

 

[dchawk81]

As a Milwaukee fan boy, Makita fan boy, Metabo (the real Metabo not the Hikoki Metabo) fan boy, Bosch fan boy and DeWalt fanboy. And yes, I have all of their battery platforms. All I can say is great. This drives the technology forward. That stated I use the big Milwaukee just about never and use the Mid-Torque and the M12 Stubby at least 90% of the time. If **** gets real I have an Aircat 1250K that can answer the call. I don't work on construction equipment but on a Porsche and a Toyota Camry. Since I never use my High-Torque I'm not going to buy the new Dewalt although I do have the new Dewalt Atomic compact which is certainly superior to the Milwaukee compact. On the other hand the Milwaukee cordless M12 ratchets are so much smaller than the new Dewalts that I consider the new DeWalts useless. Buy the best tool for the job. Who cares who makes it?

1250K is a boss. I love it. It's the pneumatic embodiment of "walk softly and carry a big stick."

 

[xjfish]

What's their current high torque numbers? I don't keep up with Dewalt.

700ft lbs I believe.

 

[darkzero]

You didn't read the article where it says Milwaukee inflates all their specs

Says the article about a tool written by an automotive news site. Sure an impact gun is very much related to auto repair & I don't disagree with them.

But so what, as a Milwaukee user (currently), I also don't really care that XYZ brand beats red or that Milwaukee claims may be inflated. I'm glad & as I mentioned earlier that's the "game" (always improving). There's no industry standard for testing impact gun power. Manuafcturers use their own different methods for testing & coming up with their numbers. That's why reviewers do tests in comparisons.

Are they lies and/or just marketing techniques, sure I don't discount that. But in this day in age, who doesn't lie about their power specs, not just in cordless tools. Like the entire air compressor HP fiasco. Power numbers are what gets the power chasers to spend their money. Am I happy or acceptable with the "lies", no but what can we do.

 

[ItsNemo]

As a Milwaukee fan boy, Makita fan boy, Metabo (the real Metabo not the Hikoki Metabo) fan boy, Bosch fan boy and DeWalt fanboy. And yes, I have all of their battery platforms. All I can say is great. This drives the technology forward. That stated I use the big Milwaukee just about never and use the Mid-Torque and the M12 Stubby at least 90% of the time. If **** gets real I have an Aircat 1250K that can answer the call. I don't work on construction equipment but on a Porsche and a Toyota Camry. Since I never use my High-Torque I'm not going to buy the new Dewalt although I do have the new Dewalt Atomic compact which is certainly superior to the Milwaukee compact. On the other hand the Milwaukee cordless M12 ratchets are so much smaller than the new Dewalts that I consider the new DeWalts useless. Buy the best tool for the job. Who cares who makes it?

I own the 899 and don't understand the appeal for these high-torque impacts. I almost always go for my big air impact first (2135TiMax) unless I need to do something with a big impact outside of the garage which is pretty rare. Reason? The 899 is REALLY heavy and awkward as are most high torque cordless.

So I agree, the air impact (IR or aircat or whoever) is really the better choice for big impact wrenches.

 

[Xcursion88]

I own the 899 and don't understand the appeal for these high-torque impacts. I almost always go for my big air impact first (2135TiMax) unless I need to do something with a big impact outside of the garage which is pretty rare. Reason? The 899 is REALLY heavy and awkward as are most high torque cordless.

So I agree, the air impact (IR or aircat or whoever) is really the better choice for big impact wrenches.

Not for me.
I'll explain.
We have all the powerful 1/2" guns. SO, Chicago Pneumatic, IR, etc etc...

When the going got tough (in the rust belt here)
I have a 3/4" drive IR gun.....but you talk about clumsy and heavy...that's it right there.

I got a DCF899 to avoid using that cumbersome s.o.b. and let me tell ya....
It's more powerful than the 3/4' IR gun, made in USA, and it's 1/2" drive.
I've yet to encounter a fastener that the DCF899 won't loosen. One time I had to put a 60v battery on it (not supposed to increase power but it most certainly does even if a slight increase.) No natter it got the job done.

Everyday use for me is always the DCF901. Stubby 1/2" impact 12volt armed with swivel sockets.
The 12v tiny footprint armed with swivel sockets gets me on 98 percent of fasteners and removevd/installed.
Being in the rust belt usually once or twice a week I can't remove a fastener wuth the dcf901....
We now have the dcf891 and it's definitely smaller than the dcf899 and extremely powerful. Made in USA and extremely powerful for it's size
If the dcf891 won't remove it the dcf899 (we call it the M60) is still on standby.
;

 

[javyLSU]

New DeWalt gun is a good thing, looking forward to see how strong it is when @Torque Test Channel puts it through its paces. As for comparison with Milwaukee... The 2767 was released in 2017, so... good job DeWalt?

 

[Showkey]

Reality in the DIY or even extreme hobbyist market is once your committed to brand and their battery platform ………most are not changing brands for the next greatest tool. Then the actual use………if any brand pops off lugs or that HONDA crank bolt that actually be good enough.

 

[dchawk81]

Reality in the DIY or even extreme hobbyist market is once your committed to brand and their battery platform ………most are not changing brands for the next greatest tool. Then the actual use………if any brand pops off lugs or that HONDA crank bolt that actually be good enough.

Yeah the marketing fluff and YouTube testing gets you to buy it but once you have it, unless it doesn't do something you needed it to do, it's fine and there's no reason to chase the next best thing.

Especially if it involves a platform change.

 

[Lucid Moments]

I am glad to see it. But I recently bought the new DeWalt Atomic 3/8" and mid-torque and those are enough for 99% of what I do since I do not live in the rust belt. On the rare occasion that those two can't handle something I need done I have the Astro Thor.

Don't get me wrong. There is a part of me that would like to buy it just because it will likely be the biggest, baddest, most powerful etc., and once upon a time I would have. But I like to think I am not just older, but maybe a little bit wiser too.

 

[dchawk81]

I am glad to see it. But I recently bought the new DeWalt Atomic 3/8" and mid-torque and those are enough for 99% of what I do since I do not live in the rust belt. On the rare occasion that those two can't handle something I need done I have the Astro Thor.

Don't get me wrong. There is a part of me that would like to buy it just because it will likely be the biggest, baddest, most powerful etc., and once upon a time I would have. But I like to think I am not just older, but maybe a little bit wiser too.

Get it just so you can say you have it and go on forums saying you don't really need it.

That's why I have the 2767 and will probably get whatever comes next.

 

[ItsNemo]

Not for me.
I'll explain.
We have all the powerful 1/2" guns. SO, Chicago Pneumatic, IR, etc etc...

When the going got tough (in the rust belt here)
I have a 3/4" drive IR gun.....but you talk about clumsy and heavy...that's it right there.

I got a DCF899 to avoid using that cumbersome s.o.b. and let me tell ya....
It's more powerful than the 3/4' IR gun, made in USA, and it's 1/2" drive.
I've yet to encounter a fastener that the DCF899 won't loosen. One time I had to put a 60v battery on it (not supposed to increase power but it most certainly does even if a slight increase.) No natter it got the job done.

Everyday use for me is always the DCF901. Stubby 1/2" impact 12volt armed with swivel sockets.
The 12v tiny footprint armed with swivel sockets gets me on 98 percent of fasteners and removevd/installed.
Being in the rust belt usually once or twice a week I can't remove a fastener wuth the dcf901....
We now have the dcf891 and it's definitely smaller than the dcf899 and extremely powerful. Made in USA and extremely powerful for it's size
If the dcf891 won't remove it the dcf899 (we call it the M60) is still on standby.
;

LoL

DCF899 weight with 5ah battery - 7.2lbs
IR 2145QiMax - 7.4lbs

Hardly a difference in weight and the IR on good air should have more torque, plus the IR is smaller physically and better balanced. And we're not comparing apples to oranges, we should be really talking about 1/2" to 1/2" guns where the 2235TiMax is only 4.6lbs.

I have also found fasteners that the DCF899 didn't move (nor did my IR2135TiMax or any other guns I have mind you, had to add some blue wrench), it's powerful but it's not absolute.

You seem to have a problem when someone says a tool you own isn't the absolutely best one. Keeping in mind, I've gone and spent my own money on the 899, the 416 grinder, etc. and love my Dewalt tools in general. Still, I'll take my 2135timax over my 899 nine times out of ten, same with my 413/414 combo over the 416. It is literally zero extra effort to pick one over the other, they're all sitting beside each other in the box or cabinet ready to go, so that has to say something.

 

[Xcursion88]

LoL

DCF899 weight with 5ah battery - 7.2lbs
IR 2145QiMax - 7.4lbs

Hardly a difference in weight and the IR on good air should have more torque, plus the IR is smaller physically and better balanced. And we're not comparing apples to oranges, we should be really talking about 1/2" to 1/2" guns where the 2235TiMax is only 4.6lbs.

I have also found fasteners that the DCF899 didn't move (nor did my IR2135TiMax or any other guns I have mind you, had to add some blue wrench), it's powerful but it's not absolute.

You seem to have a problem when someone says a tool you own isn't the absolutely best one. Keeping in mind, I've gone and spent my own money on the 899, the 416 grinder, etc. and love my Dewalt tools in general. Still, I'll take my 2135timax over my 899 nine times out of ten, same with my 413/414 combo over the 416. It is literally zero extra effort to pick one over the other, they're all sitting beside each other in the box or cabinet ready to go, so that has to say something.

Uh...
#1 I didn't tell you which 3/4" gun did I?
Assumptions won't help any argument.

#2 that's great you spent your hard earned money but are you implying that I didn't spend my money on the tools described? I own the shop and the tools in discussion.

#3 you're the one who stated you "don't understand the appeal for these high-torque impacts." And proceed promoting "your favorite air gun" On a thread about a possible new DeWalt electric impact.
I didn't see the OP ask for opinions of your favorite air gun vs an electric gun. Were you trying to hi-jack the thread or just offering up YOUR opinion?

#4 If you were just throwing your opinion out there...on a message board that is opinion driven... then I must ask is nobody else permitted to have a differing opinion from yours...on a message board driven by opinions. After all you made the statement you didn't understand the appeal for the high torque impacts to which I offered up my opinion as to why.

#5 I've thanked you several times on doing your test. The effort and energy put into it...thank you.

You chose to opine you didn't feel there was a need for the 416 tool to which I offered ...again...my opinion to your opinion...as to why. You then brought up cost (at least in Canada) to which I showed you cost is simply negligible in the United States. Echoing again you aren't buying a 416 (or any 20v grinder) if you need 60v power. It's more along the lines if someone happens to have a 60v or 2 or three it will give the 416 a boost of power.
It is the best performing 20v grinder and at least around here no price difference (nothing of significance anyway)

Lastly to a couple of your comments...
The gun I'm REALLY referring to is the IR 261 and without googling it's specs I can tell you it's ridiculously heavier and more cumbersome than the 1/2" 899
And yes we've had instances the 3/4" 261 couldn't budge something and the 1/2" 899 did.

Air? I run 170 psi everywhere. Before electric we needed as much power as possible. Buy good air tools and oil them and you don't have problems with too much air.

 

[DIYNY]

For DIYer, I don't see utility in this impact. I had DCF899 and it was used only to remove lug nuts because it won't fit/or too heavy anywhere else. And if you are not careful it will bogger up threads on bolts. Since I got rid of it I picked up DCF923 Atomic 3/8 impact. That thing is awesome, almost as powerful as its big brother, very small and light. The only bolts it couldn't take is overtorqued strut to steering knuckle bolts. Anything else is a piece of cake. I had M12 1/2 stubby and that thing was underpowered ( or maybe coz I didn't have big battery for it).
So if you are shade tree mechanic, have a look at DCF921/DCF923. They are awesome beyond the words. And DCF850 for impact driver. That's another gem.

 

[ItsNemo]

Uh...
#1 I didn't tell you which 3/4" gun did I?
Assumptions won't help any argument.

#2 that's great you spent your hard earned money but are you implying that I didn't spend my money on the tools described? I own the shop and the tools in discussion.

#3 you're the one who stated you "don't understand the appeal for these high-torque impacts." And proceed promoting "your favorite air gun" On a thread about a possible new DeWalt electric impact.
I didn't see the OP ask for opinions of your favorite air gun vs an electric gun. Were you trying to hi-jack the thread or just offering up YOUR opinion?

#4 If you were just throwing your opinion out there...on a message board that is opinion driven... then I must ask is nobody else permitted to have a differing opinion from yours...on a message board driven by opinions. After all you made the statement you didn't understand the appeal for the high torque impacts to which I offered up my opinion as to why.

#5 I've thanked you several times on doing your test. The effort and energy put into it...thank you.

You chose to opine you didn't feel there was a need for the 416 tool to which I offered ...again...my opinion to your opinion...as to why. You then brought up cost (at least in Canada) to which I showed you cost is simply negligible in the United States. Echoing again you aren't buying a 416 (or any 20v grinder) if you need 60v power. It's more along the lines if someone happens to have a 60v or 2 or three it will give the 416 a boost of power.
It is the best performing 20v grinder and at least around here no price difference (nothing of significance anyway)

Lastly to a couple of your comments...
The gun I'm REALLY referring to is the IR 261 and without googling it's specs I can tell you it's ridiculously heavier and more cumbersome than the 1/2" 899
And yes we've had instances the 3/4" 261 couldn't budge something and the 1/2" 899 did.

Air? I run 170 psi everywhere. Before electric we needed as much power as possible. Buy good air tools and oil them and you don't have problems with too much air.

#1 well you should have. The 2145 is a good gun to use in a comparison since it's their modern one.
#2 okay? I'm saying I own this equipment and purchased it myself, that it wasn't supplied to me making me bias.
#3 nothing wrong with comparing my experience with the 899 to air, I find the 899 (and its successor is looking to be the same body) much too bulky.
#4 a first hand opinion who has used (and tested) these things head to head, that's valuable.
#5 you're welcome

The 416 is still disappointing for what it is, get over it.

Okay, so many real world factors on why one might have done better than the other. A 20 year old, never maintained 261 vs a brand new 899 with 9ah battery perhaps? Yes, I'm sure you'll claim it was perfectly optimal conditions, but go prove it...next time you have a bolt that the 261 can't remove and the 899 can, take a video of it and share it with us. Using a reducing adapter on the 261 to put a 1/2" socket on it? Ya, that alone will knock out a huge chunk of power.

You don't run 170psi everywhere....even the 175psi two stage compressors won't cycle until 150psi (I own an IR 5hp 2 stage, again first hand knowledge), but thanks for coming out. Even then, 170psi at the tank is not 170psi after 100 feet of pipe and 50 feet of hose. Show me this 170psi constant on a gauge at the end of the hose while the tool is running.

 

[ItsNemo]

For DIYer, I don't see utility in this impact. I had DCF899 and it was used only to remove lug nuts because it won't fit/or too heavy anywhere else. And if you are not careful it will bogger up threads on bolts. Since I got rid of it I picked up DCF923 Atomic 3/8 impact. That thing is awesome, almost as powerful as its big brother, very small and light. The only bolts it couldn't take is overtorqued strut to steering knuckle bolts. Anything else is a piece of cake. I had M12 1/2 stubby and that thing was underpowered ( or maybe coz I didn't have big battery for it).
So if you are shade tree mechanic, have a look at DCF921/DCF923. They are awesome beyond the words. And DCF850 for impact driver. That's another gem.

Agreed, the DCF921/923's are awesome:

Big step up from the DCF890 that came before it:

 

[Lucid Moments]

Just for shits and giggles I did google the spec's on the IR261 and according to Northern Tool it weighs 12.4lbs.

 

[ItsNemo]

Just for shits and giggles I did google the spec's on the IR261 and according to Northern Tool it weighs 12.4lbs.

Yup, it's a tanky thing...no doubt the 899 is less bulky than that one specific gun.

 

[Xcursion88]

#1 well you should have. The 2145 is a good gun to use in a comparison since it's their modern one.
#2 okay? I'm saying I own this equipment and purchased it myself, that it wasn't supplied to me making me bias.
#3 nothing wrong with comparing my experience with the 899 to air, I find the 899 (and its successor is looking to be the same body) much too bulky.
#4 a first hand opinion who has used (and tested) these things head to head, that's valuable.
#5 you're welcome

The 416 is still disappointing for what it is, get over it.

Okay, so many real world factors on why one might have done better than the other. A 20 year old, never maintained 261 vs a brand new 899 with 9ah battery perhaps? Yes, I'm sure you'll claim it was perfectly optimal conditions, but go prove it...next time you have a bolt that the 261 can't remove and the 899 can, take a video of it and share it with us. Using a reducing adapter on the 261 to put a 1/2" socket on it? Ya, that alone will knock out a huge chunk of power.

You don't run 170psi everywhere....even the 175psi two stage compressors won't cycle until 150psi (I own an IR 5hp 2 stage, again first hand knowledge), but thanks for coming out. Even then, 170psi at the tank is not 170psi after 100 feet of pipe and 50 feet of hose. Show me this 170psi constant on a gauge at the end of the hose while the tool is running.

That's using a 3/4" drive socket....
I don't have the time to do a video just for you so you can still say, yeah but...show me this...show me this...

Seriously....
You're full of assumptions and attitude...and opinions. You love opinions. Only your opinion though.
When an opinion differs from yours it's pretty clear you want to throw down and start getting defensive like how dare someone's opinion differ from yours. Then you quickly say it must be beat up...must be neglected...must be this or that because no way someone's experience could differ ftom yours.

I ask again.. were you trying to hijack a thread because you being all warm and fuzzy about your air tools have absolutely positively nothing to do with the OP's thread.

What I find hilarious is I point out facts to you and you ignore them and divert them to say show me this or show me that. The 261 since you loved looking at exact specs earlier is 12.4 lbs. Now I think I was very clear in that the 3/4" gun I mentioned to you was much heavier and more cumbersome than the 1/2" 899 gun.
Crickets on that though.....

Remember you're the one who just can't undrrstand why someone would rather use an electric gun over an air gun...that YOU love. Your words exactly were...
You state you "don't understand the appeal for these high-torque impacts." All in a thread mind you asking absolutely nothing about air guns....to which you want to turn this into an air vs electric debate. Again hijacking the thread?

Perhaps people don't like the air line attached to it and ******. Maybe they don't like finding the air line, removing a tool on it...hooking up their gun...and then rinse and repeat.
There could be literally countless reasons why someone would prefer electric over air and I promise you this...it's ok. It really is ok. It will be ok going forward if someone would rather use electric over air.
See I don't care if you'd rather use an air gun over electric. Good for you. I'd be willing to bet most who prefer electric over air also don't care what you prefer to run.

See how that works? Different people for many different reasons can like different things. You should be thankful of that because without it there would be only one socket, one wrench, one gun, one screwdriver, etc. And I assure you nobody is consulting you to determine the only type of tool the world can have.

 

[ItsNemo]

That's using a 3/4" drive socket....
I don't have the time to do a video just for you so you can still say, yeah but...show me this...show me this...

Seriously....
You're full of assumptions and attitude...and opinions. You love opinions. Only your opinion though.
When an opinion differs from yours it's pretty clear you want to throw down and start getting defensive like how dare someone's opinion differ from yours. Then you quickly say it must be beat up...must be neglected...must be this or that because no way someone's experience could differ ftom yours.

I ask again.. were you trying to hijack a thread because you being all warm and fuzzy about your air tools have absolutely positively nothing to do with the OP's thread.

What I find hilarious is I point out facts to you and you ignore them and divert them to say show me this or show me that. The 261 since you loved looking at exact specs earlier is 12.4 lbs. Now I think I was very clear in that the 3/4" gun I mentioned to you was much heavier and more cumbersome than the 1/2" 899 gun.
Crickets on that though.....

Remember you're the one who just can't undrrstand why someone would rather use an electric gun over an air gun...that YOU love. Your words exactly were...
You state you "don't understand the appeal for these high-torque impacts." All in a thread mind you asking absolutely nothing about air guns....to which you want to turn this into an air vs electric debate. Again hijacking the thread?

Perhaps people don't like the air line attached to it and ******. Maybe they don't like finding the air line, removing a tool on it...hooking up their gun...and then rinse and repeat.
There could be literally countless reasons why someone would prefer electric over air and I promise you this...it's ok. It really is ok. It will be ok going forward if someone would rather use electric over air.
See I don't care if you'd rather use an air gun over electric. Good for you. I'd be willing to bet most who prefer electric over air also don't care what you prefer to run.

See how that works? Different people for many different reasons can like different things. You should be thankful of that because without it there would be only one socket, one wrench, one gun, one screwdriver, etc. And I assure you nobody is consulting you to determine the only type of tool the world can have.

Okay then. You're the one who brought up 3/4" air guns over the 899...apples/oranges, the 1/2" air offerings are equally capable to the 899 and are lighter/more compact. Further, I own and can use any of these options, I have the choices right in front of me, this isn't a case of me not having a horse in the race, and the 899 is not as nice to use as my 2135timax, period.

So why do I have the 899? Because sometimes I need to leave my garage and don't have a sufficient air source. It has a use, but it's the exception case and not my first choice. For someone reading this thread and thinking, oh hey, would be nice to have a cordless high-torque instead of my air gun, knowing they are bulky and not as nice to use is relevant information. This isn't a hijack.

Oh, and for the record, I also love some of my cordless impacts...I pretty much always use my 923 over my 2115qtimax for instance.

 

[dchawk81]

For DIYer, I don't see utility in this impact. I had DCF899 and it was used only to remove lug nuts because it won't fit/or too heavy anywhere else. And if you are not careful it will bogger up threads on bolts. Since I got rid of it I picked up DCF923 Atomic 3/8 impact. That thing is awesome, almost as powerful as its big brother, very small and light. The only bolts it couldn't take is overtorqued strut to steering knuckle bolts. Anything else is a piece of cake. I had M12 1/2 stubby and that thing was underpowered ( or maybe coz I didn't have big battery for it).
So if you are shade tree mechanic, have a look at DCF921/DCF923. They are awesome beyond the words. And DCF850 for impact driver. That's another gem.

My DIY is sometimes on a 1988 semi tractor and a 2014 semi tractor.

I'm not alone. But yeah it's usually overkill to have that much power.

Sometimes it isn't enough, hence the 1" drive impacts.

 

[reader2580]

I own the 899 and don't understand the appeal for these high-torque impacts. I almost always go for my big air impact first (2135TiMax) unless I need to do something with a big impact outside of the garage which is pretty rare. Reason? The 899 is REALLY heavy and awkward as are most high torque cordless.

I use a battery impact wrench to change tires on my motorhome on the road if necessary. The lug nuts are supposed to be torqued to 500 ft pounds, but are often overtightened. A tire shop will use a torque wrench, but that doesn't tell you if already overtightened. (I also carry a 600 pound torque wrench just in case.)

I could get air from the air system on the motorhome, but a lot easier to get a 3/4" battery impact instead.

 

[ItsNemo]

I use a battery impact wrench to change tires on my motorhome on the road if necessary. The lug nuts are supposed to be torqued to 500 ft pounds, but are often overtightened. A tire shop will use a torque wrench, but that doesn't tell you if already overtightened. (I also carry a 600 pound torque wrench just in case.)

I could get air from the air system on the motorhome, but a lot easier to get a 3/4" battery impact instead.

Yup, that's a good use for the high torque...like I said, outside the garage use.