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Just picked up a DCCS620 recently, have used it to clear dead and fallen trees for the past two days. Happens to be my first chainsaw, so far quite satisfied with its cutting performance, the low noise level was what really surprised me though, totally changed my impression of how loud chainsaws are, I'd go as far to say it's even quieter than my cordless circular saw.

Anyways, one thing that I need getting used to is checking the oil reservoir every once in a while... perhaps a bit too often?? Thing is, I find the oil level dropping to MIN (used about 100 ml) after roughly 15min of use - my 8AH battery is still displaying three bars, and I already have to stop to fill up on bar oil.

I read that "Gas chainsaws use about one tank of bar and chain oil for every tank of fuel". Since there's no adjustment mechanism on this saw controlling the amount of oil that's supplied to the bar, I need to get an idea of how much oil usage is considered normal here, just to rule out the possibility of there being a manufacturing defect, i.e. too much oil feed.

Would appreciate it if someone here who owns the saw or a similar model can share their experience on this.
 
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I have the same saw. I haven't used it that much, and much of my use has been in cold weather (well below freezing), so I don't feel like I have a real good handle on oil consumption. That said, my impression is that the oiling rate is pretty high on this thing - the bar and chain are always well oiled, even in cold weather when the oil gets pretty thick. In cold weather, I've usually had to swap batteries before the oil runs out, so I check and refill oil when I swap batteries.

If the oiling rate is really excessive, you will see the chain slinging quite a bit of oil if you rev the saw without doing any cutting. If it's only slinging a bit of oil that's pretty normal. A piece of newspaper can be helpful to see how much oil the saw is slinging.
 
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I have the same saw. I haven't used it that much, and much of my use has been in cold weather (well below freezing), so I don't feel like I have a real good handle on oil consumption. That said, my impression is that the oiling rate is pretty high on this thing - the bar and chain are always well oiled, even in cold weather when the oil gets pretty thick. In cold weather, I've usually had to swap batteries before the oil runs out, so I check and refill oil when I swap batteries.

If the oiling rate is really excessive, you will see the chain slinging quite a bit of oil if you rev the saw without doing any cutting. If it's only slinging a bit of oil that's pretty normal. A piece of newspaper can be helpful to see how much oil the saw is slinging.
Thanks for the prompt reply Pexto. Not sure what sized batteries you're using, at the current rate of oil usage it makes sense for me to use a smaller battery pack, maybe a 4AH, that way by the time I sense a reduction in power it's also time to fill up the oil.

I don't see excessive amounts of oil on the chain, not to the point where it's slinging, but when I take off the cover the area around the spindle and oiling hole is pretty greasy, packed with saturated saw chips, I deem this to be normal? I cleaned it out thoroughly last night and will give it another try today, just to see if things improve after cleaning.

Also, I may try out a different oil brand (currently using ECHO), what do you recommend? Found out that Dewalt makes a biodegradable chain oil but is currently only available in the states. I'm thinking if this just happens to be an oil-hungry saw then the least I can do is to use an eco friendly oil.
 

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I have two of those saws, but most of my usage is for smaller jobs, I don't usually go through a whole battery in one shot. I also use Echo oil and just make sure that I am topped off before leaving the shop, I don't think I have ever run dry. Mine do leak when just sitting, but most chainsaws do that. The kits are sold with 5.0 aH batteries, so maybe that is what DeWalt has the oiler tuned for.
 

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Thanks for the prompt reply Pexto. Not sure what sized batteries you're using, at the current rate of oil usage it makes sense for me to use a smaller battery pack, maybe a 4AH, that way by the time I sense a reduction in power it's also time to fill up the oil.

I don't see excessive amounts of oil on the chain, not to the point where it's slinging, but when I take off the cover the area around the spindle and oiling hole is pretty greasy, packed with saturated saw chips, I deem this to be normal? I cleaned it out thoroughly last night and will give it another try today, just to see if things improve after cleaning.

Also, I may try out a different oil brand (currently using ECHO), what do you recommend? Found out that Dewalt makes a biodegradable chain oil but is currently only available in the states. I'm thinking if this just happens to be an oil-hungry saw then the least I can do is to use an eco friendly oil.

I try to only use my 6Ah and 8Ah betteries with this saw, although the 5Ah seems to work fine in warm weather. I've had problems with smaller batteries in cold weather being unable to drive the saw continuously, or delivering low power.

It's normal for the area around the oiling hole to get packed with chips and dust. I clean it out only occasionally, like when I'm changing the chain. But if I notice the chain running dry I clean it right away because sometimes the oil hole gets plugged to the point where no oil is flowing. [edit - this has never happened on my DeWalt, but has happened occasionally on all the gas saws I've ever used.]

Frankly I don't give a whole lot of thought to the brand of chain oil - I just buy whatever quality brand my dealer happens to be selling when I need more. At the moment I have a gallon jug of Makita.

As far as biodegradability, normal bar and chain oil should biodegrade readily, since it's being spread out into a very thin layer that's readily accessible to oxygen and microorganisms. I tried to find some actual measurements of biodegradation rates for comparable petoleum and canola-based bar and chain oil, but all I could find was marketing hype. If anyone has some good information on this topic, please share!
 

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I have two of those saws, but most of my usage is for smaller jobs, I don't usually go through a whole battery in one shot. I also use Echo oil and just make sure that I am topped off before leaving the shop, I don't think I have ever run dry. Mine do leak when just sitting, but most chainsaws do that. The kits are sold with 5.0 aH batteries, so maybe that is what DeWalt has the oiler tuned for.

I've found that the DeWalt DCCS620 leaks very, very little if stored with the oil cap facing up. If I leave it with the oil cap on the side then it leaks a fair bit.
 

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People who use small chain saws to quarter large game use vegetable oil like corn or canola oil for bar oil.
That would certainly be biodegradable.

For cutting dead (dry) wood, especially hardwood, more oil is a good idea. Oil is cheaper than bars and chains!
 

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I’ve had a couple of these saws.
From what you have stated, all seems normal.
Im running straight canola oil with a 14” bar/chain.
(I wouldnt recommend vegetable oil because it will crystallize.)
It does like oil, but in my opinion thats better than being starved.

A DeWalt rep told me the Type 2 model fixed a few issues, including the common switch failure, oil leakage, and revised bar clamp. My Type 1 had all three issues and they replaced it. No problems thus far with the revised model and its been pushed hard.

I added a bumper spike to mine which has improved leverage.
 
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A medium sized gas saw is going to have about 250-300ml capacity, at least the ones I have are about that size. I get about 30-45 minutes cutting on a tank of fuel and I use almost 2/3-3/4 of the bar oil by the time I'm out of gas, so I don't think your usage is totally crazy. Some oils also drain faster, my favorite chain oil is echo, its pretty thick and it seems to stay on the chain more than other brands.
 

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I have an Stihl MS250 and the 1:1 of fuel/oil applies. On the Dewalt DCCS620, which I also have, is about 1:1 oil/5Ah battery. The Dewalt leaks and consumes way too much oil in my opinion.
 

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"Gas chainsaws use about one tank of bar and chain oil for every tank of fuel".

We are taught to top up bar oil every time we fill up with fuel, so the bar never runs dry. In reality it’s more like 1/2-2/3 tank of oil per tank of fuel, depending on the saw. My ms261 with the oiler on max does about 2/3 oil.

Have you checked there isn’t a significant quantity of oil dripping out the bottom of the saw when it’s running? Might have a faulty oiler or the oiler plate not sat correctly. Does oil come off the end of the bar if you point it nose down at a bit of wood and run it for 20s or so?

Assuming it’s not just pouring out, over oiling a little isn’t terrible.

You can get vegetable based biodegradable bar oils for use in sensitive areas like wetlands, e.g. stihl bioplus. It doesn’t lubricate as well as regular bar oil and rodents love to eat it, but otherwise it’s good stuff, I’ve had no issues running it.
 
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I try to only use my 6Ah and 8Ah betteries with this saw, although the 5Ah seems to work fine in warm weather. I've had problems with smaller batteries in cold weather being unable to drive the saw continuously, or delivering low power.

It's normal for the area around the oiling hole to get packed with chips and dust. I clean it out only occasionally, like when I'm changing the chain. But if I notice the chain running dry I clean it right away because sometimes the oil hole gets plugged to the point where no oil is flowing. [edit - this has never happened on my DeWalt, but has happened occasionally on all the gas saws I've ever used.]

Frankly I don't give a whole lot of thought to the brand of chain oil - I just buy whatever quality brand my dealer happens to be selling when I need more. At the moment I have a gallon jug of Makita.

As far as biodegradability, normal bar and chain oil should biodegrade readily, since it's being spread out into a very thin layer that's readily accessible to oxygen and microorganisms. I tried to find some actual measurements of biodegradation rates for comparable petoleum and canola-based bar and chain oil, but all I could find was marketing hype. If anyone has some good information on this topic, please share!
Yeah, I'd always reach for my 8Ah when doing long cuts with my circular saw, as smaller batteries simply can't handle the continuous load and will slow down quite a bit, sometimes even stopping in the middle of a cut. With this chainsaw though I don't sense a significant difference in power delivery, was cutting 8" diameter poplar today, and a 5Ah allowed it to chew through as easily as the bigger battery did. I suppose it has to do the oil's lubrication effect (also wasn't pushing down too hard). Temperature definitely affects the performance far more.

Cleaning out the oiling area sure is a messy task, I sure don't look forward to performing it too often, only when I'm done for the season and putting it away, or in the event oiling hole becomes clogged.

Based on the feedback I'm getting it seems that I shouldn't bother getting bio oil afterall, as f121 pointed out below such oil would likely attract rodents, which is undesirable when cutting near the house.
 
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I have two of those saws, but most of my usage is for smaller jobs, I don't usually go through a whole battery in one shot. I also use Echo oil and just make sure that I am topped off before leaving the shop, I don't think I have ever run dry. Mine do leak when just sitting, but most chainsaws do that. The kits are sold with 5.0 aH batteries, so maybe that is what DeWalt has the oiler tuned for.
Getting the sense you use the saw(s) quite a lot, I take it that you got a wooded area on your land :) Same here, I tend to switch over to another one whenever I get the chance, ideally before it reaches one bar, since shallow cycling helps extend the life of the battery. For me, being able to see the remaining power on the battery without having to pull it out is a huge plus.

I’ve had a couple of these saws.
From what you have stated, all seems normal.
Im running straight canola oil with a 14” bar/chain.
(I wouldnt recommend vegetable oil because it will crystallize.)
It does like oil, but in my opinion thats better than being starved.

A DeWalt rep told me the Type 2 model fixed a few issues, including the common switch failure, oil leakage, and revised bar clamp. My Type 1 had all three issues and they replaced it. No problems thus far with the revised model and its been pushed hard.

I added a bumper spike to mine which has improved leverage.

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Thanks for confirming, I'm convinced now there's nothing wrong with my saw's oiling, but this particular model may have been set to pump out a bit more oil than necessary, as noted by nafterclifen.

Glad you got your saw fixed. My saw is a Type 3, wonder what further modifications they made to Type 2, better be upgrades lol

Interesting! Didn't know about the bumper spike until now. I don't see Dewalt selling it so I assume it's third party, yet from your photo it appears to fit on there nicely. I may look into it if I'll be doing a lot of log cutting in the future.

A medium sized gas saw is going to have about 250-300ml capacity, at least the ones I have are about that size. I get about 30-45 minutes cutting on a tank of fuel and I use almost 2/3-3/4 of the bar oil by the time I'm out of gas, so I don't think your usage is totally crazy. Some oils also drain faster, my favorite chain oil is echo, its pretty thick and it seems to stay on the chain more than other brands.
I see, though it's rather difficult to assess whether the oil usage is appropriate for the amount cutting that's being done, I'm guessing many factors are at play here, such as wood species, temperature, battery level etc. I'll see if I can find a video that compares different chainsaws saws and touchs on the subject, will post it here if I do.
I have an Stihl MS250 and the 1:1 of fuel/oil applies. On the Dewalt DCCS620, which I also have, is about 1:1 oil/5Ah battery. The Dewalt leaks and consumes way too much oil in my opinion.

I kind of share that feeling even though I havent tried other saws before. Would be nice if they made the oiling adjustable so that one can set the amount based on the type of wood they're cutting - in my case I'm cutting live softwood which doesn't require so much oil.
 
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We are taught to top up bar oil every time we fill up with fuel, so the bar never runs dry. In reality it’s more like 1/2-2/3 tank of oil per tank of fuel, depending on the saw. My ms261 with the oiler on max does about 2/3 oil.

Have you checked there isn’t a significant quantity of oil dripping out the bottom of the saw when it’s running? Might have a faulty oiler or the oiler plate not sat correctly. Does oil come off the end of the bar if you point it nose down at a bit of wood and run it for 20s or so?

Assuming it’s not just pouring out, over oiling a little isn’t terrible.

You can get vegetable based biodegradable bar oils for use in sensitive areas like wetlands, e.g. stihl bioplus. It doesn’t lubricate as well as regular bar oil and rodents love to eat it, but otherwise it’s good stuff, I’ve had no issues running it.
I was ready to accept the fact that my saw is completely normal, and if there's anything wrong it's just how this model was tuned. But since you mention it I did another test, and I'll try to describe what I see:
  • No oil leaking from below if stored with oil cap facing up
  • Ran the saw freely for 20s while holding it directly above a piece of wood without cutting into it, could see a stripe of oil forming (also my pants get stained with tiny oil spots after using it for a while)
  • ECHO oil that I'm using is quite viscous, takes a fair amount to drip
P.s. thanks for the heads up on rodents, Ill think twice before purchasing
 

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Interesting! Didn't know about the bumper spike until now. I don't see Dewalt selling it so I assume it's third party, yet from your photo it appears to fit on there nicely. I may look into it if I'll be doing a lot of log cutting in the future.
Thanks. You're right, its custom.
I used the spike that comes with the 18v Makita XCU06 top handle, but I had to do modifications to make it work.
(It can be purchased separately and is inexpensive.)
These saws would have benefited with one instead of the plastic "teeth".
If Makita can sell theirs with one, why cant Dewalt?
 
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Thanks. You're right, its custom.
I used the spike that comes with the 18v Makita XCU06 top handle, but I had to do modifications to make it work.
(It can be purchased separately and is inexpensive.)
These saws would have benefited with one instead of the plastic "teeth".
If Makita can sell theirs with one, why cant Dewalt?
Clever thinking, did the original torx screws work for you or did you get longer screws?

Beats me. I own a number of Dewalt tools and I get the impression that they don't pay much attention to detail, not realizing it's often the small designs that can greatly enhance user experience and improve feedback.

Take their cordless trimmer for instance, if you read the reviews for it you'll see many people complaining about the weight being unbalanced - something I experienced as well on my first use, but after putting on a simple shoulder strap I'm ready to say this is an excellent trimmer, one that I can use for hours and experience no discomfort at all.
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This would have only cost them $5 at most but they'd rather leave it out...

Same goes for things like magnetic bit holder on drivers, auxiliary handle on hammer drills, vacuum port on circular saws... some of these aren't merely "nice to have" accessories, but essential parts for a tool to function at its best and mostly importantly, safer for the user (the bumper spike is a good example). As far as I can see, by including these features the revenue gained through extra sales clearly outweigh the cost in most cases.
 

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Just picked up a DCCS620 recently, have used it to clear dead and fallen trees for the past two days. Happens to be my first chainsaw, so far quite satisfied with its cutting performance, the low noise level was what really surprised me though, totally changed my impression of how loud chainsaws are, I'd go as far to say it's even quieter than my cordless circular saw.

Anyways, one thing that I need getting used to is checking the oil reservoir every once in a while... perhaps a bit too often?? Thing is, I find the oil level dropping to MIN (used about 100 ml) after roughly 15min of use - my 8AH battery is still displaying three bars, and I already have to stop to fill up on bar oil.

I read that "Gas chainsaws use about one tank of bar and chain oil for every tank of fuel". Since there's no adjustment mechanism on this saw controlling the amount of oil that's supplied to the bar, I need to get an idea of how much oil usage is considered normal here, just to rule out the possibility of there being a manufacturing defect, i.e. too much oil feed.

Would appreciate it if someone here who owns the saw or a similar model can share their experience on this.
I also have trouble remembering to check the oil.
The reservoir isn't very big and the batteries way outlast the oil.

Any recommendations for bar oil?

I haven't bought bar oil in decades. I bought a bunch - maybe 40 gallons - 40? Years ago at an auction for little to nothing.

I'm down to my last gallon.

Will straight 30 weight work?
I have a couple gallons of that - also from an auction.

Thanks
 

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I also have trouble remembering to check the oil.
The reservoir isn't very big and the batteries way outlast the oil.

Any recommendations for bar oil?

I haven't bought bar oil in decades. I bought a bunch - maybe 40 gallons - 40? Years ago at an auction for little to nothing.

I'm down to my last gallon.

Will straight 30 weight work?
I have a couple gallons of that - also from an auction.

Thanks

I'd stick to the bar oil. It has additives that makes it tacky.
It sticks to the bar for better lubrication, plus it is less messy because it is not being thrown of the saw as readily.
IMO, bar oil is pretty much bar oil.
Full disclosure, I am still using a gallon of K Mart branded that I bought in 1980.
I'd just buy a gallon or quart of whatever the Menards, Rural King, etc. had on sale, and carry on.
It will do what is required.
 
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I’ve had a couple of these saws.
From what you have stated, all seems normal.
Im running straight canola oil with a 14” bar/chain.
(I wouldnt recommend vegetable oil because it will crystallize.)
It does like oil, but in my opinion thats better than being starved.

A DeWalt rep told me the Type 2 model fixed a few issues, including the common switch failure, oil leakage, and revised bar clamp. My Type 1 had all three issues and they replaced it. No problems thus far with the revised model and its been pushed hard.

I added a bumper spike to mine which has improved leverage.

I’ve had a couple of these saws.
From what you have stated, all seems normal.
Im running straight canola oil with a 14” bar/chain.
(I wouldnt recommend vegetable oil because it will crystallize.)
It does like oil, but in my opinion thats better than being starved.

A DeWalt rep told me the Type 2 model fixed a few issues, including the common switch failure, oil leakage, and revised bar clamp. My Type 1 had all three issues and they replaced it. No problems thus far with the revised model and its been pushed hard.

I added a bumper spike to mine which has improved leverage.
What and where did you get the bumper spike?

We bought our DCCS670B, 16" bar? May 2019.

I'm guessing that's a Type 1?

Thanks.
 

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I'd stick to the bar oil. It has additives that makes it tacky.
It sticks to the bar for better lubrication, plus it is less messy because it is not being thrown of the saw as readily.
IMO, bar oil is pretty much bar oil.
Full disclosure, I am still using a gallon of K Mart branded that I bought in 1980.
I'd just buy a gallon or quart of whatever the Menards, Rural King, etc. had on sale, and carry on.
It will do what is required.
Anything cheap on Amazon?

I've been an Amsoil dealer since the 1990's, but I'm not paying for Amsoil bar oil
 

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Anything cheap on Amazon?

I've been an Amsoil dealer since the 1990's, but I'm not paying for Amsoil bar oil

Amazon rarely has any cheap oil.
For your purpose, I'd go to one of the retailers mentioned in my post.
They tend to use that as a loss leader, especially Rural King.
RK is $8.99/gal. Menards is $9.78 after MIR.
Any of the farm type stores, such as Blains, should also have the gallons (in a store or generic brand) at a decent price.
 

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  • Ran the saw freely for 20s while holding it directly above a piece of wood without cutting into it, could see a stripe of oil forming (also my pants get stained with tiny oil spots after using it for a while)

That sounds like an absolutely perfect bar oil feed rate. A little more is far better than too little.
 

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Amazon rarely has any cheap oil.
For your purpose, I'd go to one of the retailers mentioned in my post.
They tend to use that as a loss leader, especially Rural King.
RK is $8.99/gal. Menards is $9.78 after MIR.
Any of the farm type stores, such as Blains, should also have the gallons (in a store or generic brand) at a decent price.
Sticker shock. Lol

I think I paid less than $10 for all the oil I bought at that auction years ago.

I'll have to keep an eye out the next time I go to a store.
 

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I haven't seen any one mention that chain oil comes in summer or winter grades. As Tdbo says in post 19 bar oil has a clinging agent that helps the oil stay on the chain. If you're seeing oil forming lines on the ground or your pants maybe it's not the best oil for a bar. That said as long as there is lots of lubrication on the bar and chain you're good, you just don't want to run dry or things wear out.

When I logged in the 70's, 80's, 90's by memory winter oil had a viscosity similar to 10 wt and was used from -50 to zero (32'F). Summer oil was thick like 50 wt oil and was used from above freezing all through the summer. The weather seems much hotter these days so good thick oil should work well but we also had manual oil pumps on the saws as well as the auto oil system. Probably good to follow manufactures recommendations.

I have the 16" dewalt but don't use it that much. I does consume lots of oil though. I have 3 - 8amp batteries for when I'm in the back woods. I've run the single batteries down before topping up the oil without running out of oil. (was splitting a 15" log in half lengthwise so steady cutting till battery died).

 

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I haven't seen any one mention that chain oil comes in summer or winter grades. As Tdbo says in post 19 bar oil has a clinging agent that helps the oil stay on the chain. If you're seeing oil forming lines on the ground or your pants maybe it's not the best oil for a bar. That said as long as there is lots of lubrication on the bar and chain you're good, you just don't want to run dry or things wear out.

When I logged in the 70's, 80's, 90's by memory winter oil had a viscosity similar to 10 wt and was used from -50 to zero (32'F). Summer oil was thick like 50 wt oil and was used from above freezing all through the summer. The weather seems much hotter these days so good thick oil should work well but we also had manual oil pumps on the saws as well as the auto oil system. Probably good to follow manufactures recommendations.

I have the 16" dewalt but don't use it that much. I does consume lots of oil though. I have 3 - 8amp batteries for when I'm in the back woods. I've run the single batteries down before topping up the oil without running out of oil. (was splitting a 15" log in half lengthwise so steady cutting till battery died).

I've been filling the oil about 3 times per battery. - by yesterday's performance.
 

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Echo is the thickest oil I’ve found that is off the shelf. Maybe someone knows something thicker.
 

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I been using Tractor supply oil in all my saws. It will more than likely be going on sale closer to firewood season. I'm interested in the bumper spike as well.
 

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I been using Tractor supply oil in all my saws. It will more than likely be going on sale closer to firewood season. I'm interested in the bumper spike as well.
That's actually the closest store.

We've been doing our best to boycott them for not allowing the FFA to sell raffle tickets outside the door.
 

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I use the Tractor Supply oil too. It works fine. Canola supposedly will gum up when it sits around for a while and cleaning out the oil tank can be a pain.

You need to sharpen the chain often. On a gas saw I don't go longer than two tanks of fuel. When you sharpen the chain you should also clean the saw. I use a small putty knife to get the bulk of the chips out (don't forget to clean the bar groove) and often blow it out with air on moderate pressure. Turn the bar over each time to even out the wear.
 

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I use the Tractor Supply oil too. It works fine. Canola supposedly will gum up when it sits around for a while and cleaning out the oil tank can be a pain.

You need to sharpen the chain often. On a gas saw I don't go longer than two tanks of fuel. When you sharpen the chain you should also clean the saw. I use a small putty knife to get the bulk of the chips out (don't forget to clean the bar groove) and often blow it out with air on moderate pressure. Turn the bar over each time to even out the wear.
How long does it take you to sharpen the chain. Used to take me at least 15 minutes.

It was faster for me to swap chains and sharpen later.
We had days that we went through several tanks of fuel.

Now days, I'm not so sure I could get the file and the chain moving in the same direction at the same time.

I have no issues weaving when welding.
 

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I have a small electric 14" (or so) corded chainsaw and a Milwaukee M12 Hatched.

Both use oil like crazy, but they're not slinging oil. Seems like the nature of the beast, and both work great.
 

Pinemarten

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I usually do a good bar clean and flop it top to bottom after a day of firewood cutting. That way it is ready to go the next time. For the truck toolbox saw, which just cuts logs out of the road, I clean as required. The oiler is adjusted to be "extra-oily".

I modified the oil pump on mt Stihl saw to oil more. Almost every Still saw you see has a burnt bar from under oiling. Oil is cheap...........bars and chains aren't!
 

tncatadjuster

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My M18 Milwaukee drinks oil and slings it about, small price to pay for instant on every single time, I love the thing and will never crank another 2-stroke.
 
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