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Now that's cool.

Certainly more elegant than 2 car batteries and a set of jumper cables.
 

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Cordless high current high discharge rate application. Maybe weld for ten minutes charge for two hours?
 
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A birdy told me 1 hour run time on the charge. I'm at a buying event in KC and the local rep had not even seen it yet but had heard about it.
 

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That thing would be great for certain applications.....

bTW....guys have been doing cordless welding for years. There used to be plans floating around that showed taking a spool gun and running it off of 2-3 car batteries. They showed setting everything up in a kids wagon including the car charger so you could wheel it to where you wanted to weld and then wheel it back to its parking spot to charge it

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For 5k you could easily grab a used generator and a 110v or 220 v welder. I think it has a small, limited market, but is overpriced at 5k.
 
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I'll take my dynasty 200 and a genny over that any day.

BTW, it's a rebrand.....

http://toolguyd.com/dewalt-cordless-welder-additional-info/

Fronius, the company making this, is an Austrian company specialized in welding and charging/solar equipment so the quality should be good. Money wise, better off buying a welding generator for sure, aside portability factor doesn't have anything else to brag about:

Current Range - Stick 10-140
Current Range - TIG 3-150
Hybrid Duty Cycle @ 140 Amps - Stick 18%
Hybrid Duty Cycle @ 100 Amps - Stick 25%
Hybrid Duty Cycle @ 40 Amps - Stick 100%
Hybrid Duty Cycle @ 150 Amps - TIG 25%
Hybrid Duty Cycle @ 65 Amps - TIG 100%
 
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You guys will complain about anything lol

$20 If it was a miller you all would be all over it
 

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Yes the blue koolaid is strong and sweet. If it was blue and said miller it would be appealing. If they did something similar with the multimatic 200 I'd be interested.
 

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I don't see this as being used for production welding, at least in cordless mode. You're not going to replace an engine driven unit for field pipeline welding or something. But for certain applications, it could be ideal. For example, in my business occasionally small repairs need to be made in the field, or otherwise outside of a work station with a conveniently located welding power unit- a weld that needs a minor touch up for undercut or a pinhole repair, a small bracket needs attached, etc. The welding itself is very very minor, but the logistics of getting the right equipment where you need it can be a huge pain. Engine units aren't always an option inside, there may or may not be proper power readily available for a standard machine, you may need to work from a manlift, whatever. You spend two hours setting up for three minutes of welding. Something like this, wherever you can carry it, you can use it, for a time at least. Also for maintenance work, where small amounts of welding may be needed to, say, weld a few pieces of unistrut to a beam for hanging conduit while working from a lift. Not exactly production welding, but can be kind of a pain to get more traditional welding equipment where you need it, depending on the facility. That's where I see this shining. It's not for everything or everyone, but it has its place I think.
 

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I don't see this as being used for production welding, at least in cordless mode. You're not going to replace an engine driven unit for field pipeline welding or something. But for certain applications, it could be ideal. For example, in my business occasionally small repairs need to be made in the field, or otherwise outside of a work station with a conveniently located welding power unit- a weld that needs a minor touch up for undercut or a pinhole repair, a small bracket needs attached, etc. The welding itself is very very minor, but the logistics of getting the right equipment where you need it can be a huge pain. Engine units aren't always an option inside, there may or may not be proper power readily available for a standard machine, you may need to work from a manlift, whatever. You spend two hours setting up for three minutes of welding. Something like this, wherever you can carry it, you can use it, for a time at least. Also for maintenance work, where small amounts of welding may be needed to, say, weld a few pieces of unistrut to a beam for hanging conduit while working from a lift. Not exactly production welding, but can be kind of a pain to get more traditional welding equipment where you need it, depending on the facility. That's where I see this shining. It's not for everything or everyone, but it has its place I think.
In Europe we have things like this:
http://www.mosa.it/en/product/engin...b23c7/new-magic-weld-543e4741a2387cc4317b23c7
meant to be carried in one hand and capable of 150A@60%
 

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DeWalt would sell more if it ran off of a couple of their 20V battery packs, even if they had to limit the power out and run time.
 

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I don't see this as being used for production welding, at least in cordless mode. You're not going to replace an engine driven unit for field pipeline welding or something. But for certain applications, it could be ideal. For example, in my business occasionally small repairs need to be made in the field, or otherwise outside of a work station with a conveniently located welding power unit- a weld that needs a minor touch up for undercut or a pinhole repair, a small bracket needs attached, etc. The welding itself is very very minor, but the logistics of getting the right equipment where you need it can be a huge pain. Engine units aren't always an option inside, there may or may not be proper power readily available for a standard machine, you may need to work from a manlift, whatever. You spend two hours setting up for three minutes of welding. Something like this, wherever you can carry it, you can use it, for a time at least. Also for maintenance work, where small amounts of welding may be needed to, say, weld a few pieces of unistrut to a beam for hanging conduit while working from a lift. Not exactly production welding, but can be kind of a pain to get more traditional welding equipment where you need it, depending on the facility. That's where I see this shining. It's not for everything or everyone, but it has its place I think.

This guy gets it. You need to work in marketing for Hobart & the Trek would still be around. Easily carried back between buildings, backyards, up stairs, whatever. In residential, NO ENGINE NOISE. NO WORRY OF VOLTAGE DROP if there is a need to run extension cords as this is only your CHARGE wire. 500' of 16ga? Sure, no problem!

You're NOT using a 110V welder, you're merely charging from 110V.

Seems to me the killer for the Fronius Dewalt is the price. The Trek was a hard sell at $1400.
 

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You guys will complain about anything lol

$20 If it was a miller you all would be all over it

Yes the blue koolaid is strong and sweet. If it was blue and said miller it would be appealing. If they did something similar with the multimatic 200 I'd be interested.

Yes, if it were a Miller I'd click the link to read about it...but a Carpentry Tool MFG offering welding equipment? No thanks... For the same reason I wouldn't buy a SnapOn Table Saw or a Matco Shaper.:D

No doubt it would have applications, duty cycle as posted seems low, but for small light, portable welding its probably more then enough. But again, its not a Miller...I wouldn't risk 5.00 of my own money on it.
 

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Yes, if it were a Miller I'd click the link to read about it...but a Carpentry Tool MFG offering welding equipment? No thanks... For the same reason I wouldn't buy a SnapOn Table Saw or a Matco Shaper.:D

No doubt it would have applications, duty cycle as posted seems low, but for small light, portable welding its probably more then enough. But again, its not a Miller...I wouldn't risk 5.00 of my own money on it.

what about bosch and 3m? they have divisions for absolutely everything... doesn't mean it will be a bad product
 

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They focused all the marketing with the trek to the off road crowd, I think it was one of the engineers wet dreams but they should have spent it on ag and light construction.
 

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They focused all the marketing with the trek to the off road crowd, I think it was one of the engineers wet dreams but they should have spent it on ag and light construction.

THANK YOU! The fact is most 'wheelers are broke, have kids or baby-on-the-way. Trek was pushing a $1400 product to guys who wouldn't and couldn't afford it. The guys w $60k turn key buggies never get more than 200 yards from camp so they didn't want it, even if they could afford it. And the handful that did won't amount to enough sales.

Hobart should have explained the advantages to professional mobile welding outfits. It falls squarely between a 110V MIG on an extension cord and an engine driven welder. But as it is, pro's mocked it as a toy, but this is not valid. Hobart primarily sold it thru Northern, which is a good start but ya gotta hit a few more online retailers AND target some LWS's w demos, etc.

The Trek was (and is -used mine on my trailer yesterday) a great product that was poorly marketed and greatly misunderstood.

The good news for Fronius is that they likely have no choice but to target professionals because the price puts it way out of hobby range. The bad news is that while many pro outfits might have gambled $1400 (and IIRC it would go on sale as low as $1150) they'll be more hesitant to gamble at $3000+. And arguably MIG (er wire feed/flux) is more conducive to quick repairs in the field, albeit less versatile overall.
 
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The bad news is that while many pro outfits might have gambled $1400 (and IIRC it would go on sale as low as $1150) they'll be more hesitant to gamble at $3000+.

I agree with everything you said Ign, BUT I'd personally also add...the pro outfits may have gambled on it at any price point if it were a reputable (in terms of welding & metal working) brand like Miller, ESAB, Lincoln, Etc..
 
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