DeWalt DCF887 confusion
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mike93lx
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They must have swapped in an anvil.
887 is a driver and it also is labeled as such on the tool. The anvil kit looks like it's under 40 bucks and it gets you a 3 speed impact, although Power will be significantly lacking compared to even a mid torque wrench. Maybe if you are driving lags into wood all day.
For mechanic work, grab a dcf921 or 923 and don't look back
887 is a driver and it also is labeled as such on the tool. The anvil kit looks like it's under 40 bucks and it gets you a 3 speed impact, although Power will be significantly lacking compared to even a mid torque wrench. Maybe if you are driving lags into wood all day.
For mechanic work, grab a dcf921 or 923 and don't look back
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I was going to make a Dewalt impact wrench post about all the models and my confusion.
But for general automotive work, including suspension, etc Are the DCF921 and DCF923 sufficient torque?
I like the size/weight/feel of those Atomic ones. I held a high torque one and it was way too heavy.
Yes and no...strut mounts and anything under hood and little stuff like that? Yes...big control arm bolts and stuff, no. The 921/923 (I'd get the 923 given the torque range) is super handy though and I use it all the time. Technically it can do lug nuts but it's not effortless with it.
The new mid torque (891) is the ticket for real suspension work, I agree the high torque weighs wayyyyy too much.
I own the 923 (new compact), 894 (old mid, new is 891), 899 (old high, new is 900, and 890 (old compact).
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Yes and no...strut mounts and anything under hood and little stuff like that? Yes...big control arm bolts and stuff, no. The 921/923 (I'd get the 923 given the torque range) is super handy though and I use it all the time. Technically it can do lug nuts but it's not effortless with it.
The new mid torque (891) is the ticket for real suspension work, I agree the high torque weighs wayyyyy too much.
I own the 923 (new compact), 894 (old mid, new is 891), 899 (old high, new is 900, and 890 (old compact).
And this is why I'm confused.
I'd have to hold the 891 to feel it weight, etc but if I like it, is a good starting point the 891 and 923?
Then I assume hog ring anvil is the way to go vs detent?
The 891 (which is identical looking to the older 894) is comfortable enough weight wise to use constantly, feels about the same in weight as one of the XR Hammer drills I'd say. The 899/900 high torques are just stupid heavy, I rarely use mine, will always go for my IR2135TiMax unless I don't have air available (away from the house).
The 923 is by far my most used impact though, 9 times out of 10 it does the job and is light/compact/convenient.
Hog ring 100%. I hate detent as they're a pain in the *** to use and really meant for keeping a single socket on all the time.
If you have an 890, there's no point at all in getting the converted one unless you want a spare impact. They are literally the same guts, just different ends. The larger drive end (3/8" instead of 1/4" driver) is what results in a smidge more usable torque.
The 923 is a BIG upgrade over the 890 though...couple vids showing the difference I did:
The pin detent on the DCF891, does that require a screwdriver to release it through the hole in the socket or is it just more like a ratchet with a spring loaded detent ball?
I kind of had my heart set on finding a close out on the DCF 899
But if you say they are stupid heavy, a guy might just be as well off with the DCF891.
The DCF891, advertises 800 ft lbs breakaway torque,
And 600 foot pounds tightening torque.
I also have the older mid torque DCF 894 it's not a bad little impact either. Allbeit not as strong as the 891.
I kind of had my heart set on finding a close out on the DCF 899
But if you say they are stupid heavy, a guy might just be as well off with the DCF891.
The DCF891, advertises 800 ft lbs breakaway torque,
And 600 foot pounds tightening torque.
I also have the older mid torque DCF 894 it's not a bad little impact either. Allbeit not as strong as the 891.
mike93lx
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I hate the pin detent on my 899. If I need to switch around sockets, I put a small extension on it.
It's very heavy, but if I have it in my hand and it fits where I need it to, I can trust it will remove the fastener.
I wouldnt want to use it all day, but I'm an accountant, not a mechanic, so that's not a problem.
The 923 I recently picked up is comically small and I got it because of the review that @Torque Test Channel did. Hoping it comes in handy for some strut and shock work I have coming up
The 891 is hog ring, I believe the 892 is pin detent. I don't know what the release is like on it though, I haven't had a pin detent since my old 18v "high" torque impact and it did require a screwdriver to release. Check out Torque Test Channels vids on the 891, 899 and 900...the 891 is pretty much as good as an older high torque and short of say honda crank bolts, will probably always be enough.
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Hog rings all the way. They hold impact sockets really well and with a little more effort than a hand ratchet impact sockets come on and off by hand, that gets a bit easier as the hog ring gets broken in. And if and when a hog ring breaks or gets worn out they are cheap and easy to replace. Pry off the old ring and o-ring, replace with the new o-ring, and set the new hog ring on a piece of cardboard and press the anvil onto it, starting at a slight angle and straightening up on it as you push. Pops on every time.
Do not use a hog ring with a chrome hand socket though as it can and will lock into all 4 of the detent dimples and not want to come off. The hog ring is meant to hold onto just the flat sides and one hole of a typical impact socket. I've seen more than a few hog rings get broken trying to pry off a chrome socket that never should have been put on the impact in the first place.
Pin detents are a PITA IMHO.
1) They only lock into the single hole of an impact socket so you have to pay attention putting the socket on to make sure you are lining the hole up with the pin or the anvil's pin won't really hold onto the socket very well if at all.
2) Assuming you lined the socket up correctly and it is locked on and didn't come flying off while trying to use it they require keeping a small screwdriver or something to push in the pin to release the socket every time.
3) When the pin detent gets worn out you have to replace the whole anvil.
Do not use a hog ring with a chrome hand socket though as it can and will lock into all 4 of the detent dimples and not want to come off. The hog ring is meant to hold onto just the flat sides and one hole of a typical impact socket. I've seen more than a few hog rings get broken trying to pry off a chrome socket that never should have been put on the impact in the first place.
Pin detents are a PITA IMHO.
1) They only lock into the single hole of an impact socket so you have to pay attention putting the socket on to make sure you are lining the hole up with the pin or the anvil's pin won't really hold onto the socket very well if at all.
2) Assuming you lined the socket up correctly and it is locked on and didn't come flying off while trying to use it they require keeping a small screwdriver or something to push in the pin to release the socket every time.
3) When the pin detent gets worn out you have to replace the whole anvil.