DeWalt DCF887

[NorteCatorce]

If anybody has or is thinking about getting the DeWalt 887, then do yourself a favor and watch this!
Really opened my eyes up about this particular tool.

 

[ItsNemo]

Sensationalism much, almost explodes? Right...and one tool letting the smoke out does not a problem make.

 

[Chucktin]

Umm, I listened to the whole spiel. 3 out of 3 DeWalt drivers (same model, 3 units) failed with smoke.
Would that happen to you or me? I dunno. I am going to look at mine to see what model numbers I've got.

 

[ChrisLS8]

SMH, I guess I should toss the one at work that has driven probably 15-20k 1/2 4" concrete anchors.

 

[gmt]

I saw that and another one. The thing they have in common is in both videos they are driving large spade bits. So just be careful if you are using it with spade bits.

 

[Wamsutta]

Is that really the best tool for driving lag bolts and spade bits?

 

[Bacon!]

Meh, two idiots trying to destroy a tool, when either a sledgehammer or fire is a lot faster.

#thisiswhywecanthavenicethings

 

[greg13]

Interesting since Stanley owns both companies, there are a few levels of dewalt tools. You can abuse ANY tool to death.

 

[so2315]

And several people asked several different times if they had the speed selector on #3, the highest speed lowest torque setting. You can see they did in fact have it on #3. I read somewhere that Dewalt added the multiple speeds solely to try and beat Milwaukee's numbers.

 

[shawhite]

I have two of these on my work truck. Have not had a single issue with either in over a year of regular use and abuse. They regularly get wet and dropped and they keep on working.

 

[xela456]

I'd be interested to see this with an identical DCF887. almost seems like a lemon.

 

[kctyphoon]

Buy Milwaukee. Problem solved.

 

[Kaizen]

Don’t know these two so who knows what they did or didn’t do. Not a continuous test so did they overheat it and then start the test? Not charge the batteries the same? In you tube I only listen to guys that run scientific based tests not to guys driving screws.
Def would get a Milwaukee after my dewalt. Craftsman isn’t even a thought. Well maybe after a ryobi.


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[American Locomotive]

Buy Milwaukee. Problem solved.

Can't hurt the tool if your chuck doesn't grip the it hard enough to spin it!

 

[xela456]

Can't hurt the tool if your chuck doesn't grip the it hard enough to spin it!

this is true with the 2604 and the 2704's. Not so with the 2804's. It hasnt been my experience anyway.

 

[kctyphoon]

Can't hurt the tool if your chuck doesn't grip the it hard enough to spin it!

I think I’ve used over a dozen drills from Milwaukee. I still haven’t had a problem. None of them caught on fire either.

 

[WittHay]

Nah if you want a fancy impact get a Makita. If you want red get a Craftsman. I use Dewalt impact drivers.

I dont watch tool review videos. They are like reality TV shows, both have nothing to do with real life or normal tool use. All i know is that Milwaukee must give away a lot of free tools to all these Youtubers that give impartial reviews.

 

[speed bump]

I'm disappointed, I haven't blown either of mine up. Other than the very early DeWalt 20v tools I would say in oilfield use the Milwaukee and DeWalts have about equal failures. The only out there stuff I remember recently is a Milwaukee battery catching on fire a few months ago (sadly I forgot to take a picture of it) and a DeWalt 3/4" impact getting so hot from continuous use you couldn't hold it.

 

[finn]

Clowns, not tool reviewers.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Is that really the best tool for driving lag bolts and spade bits?

Nope. In fact, lets quote the manual for the product:
"These impact drivers are designed for professional impact
screwdriving applications. The impact function makes this
tool particularly useful for driving fasteners in wood, metal
and concrete."

Looking at the DCD791, a drill often paired with the DCF887:
These drills/drivers/hammerdrills are designed
for professional drilling, percussion drilling and
screwdriving applications.

Spade bit = drilling, so it is an incorrect use of the tool. I would expect the impact driver to be able to handle it occasionally, but not for nonstop use. I would also throw out there that the bits being used may not have been impact rated. The whole video seems like a bunch of people acting shocked when their 1/4" drive HF socket breaks when a six foot breaker bar is applied to it.

 

[sk farmer]

i don't know how anyone could take that annoying **** seriously. on exactly what level would you trust those guys?

i tried watch it but had to jump to the end. pretty sure it was staged with all of the patched together video.

 

[bbrins]

I have a DCF885(2011) and a DCF887(2016), I've used these things pretty hard and they still work just like when they were new. I really think you would have to beat on these things pretty hard, using them way beyond what they were designed for to get the results that these idiots did. I occasionally use mine for drilling with bits that are designed for impact use, I have also driven a lot of lag bolts, but I pre-drill first, also thousands of decking and drywall screws. If I have much drilling to do, I use a drill.

 

[Pen & Wrench]

It might not have made any difference but I thought it was interesting to see the guy hold his glove over the cooling vents on the DeWalt tool.

 

[ItsNemo]

It might not have made any difference but I thought it was interesting to see the guy hold his glove over the cooling vents on the DeWalt tool.

I noticed that too...he was covering up a lot of the back of the tool where the venting is.

When I'm doing a lot of long term/high load drilling I make sure not to cover the vents on mine, you do notice there's more heat if you do cover them (sometimes unavoidable in tight areas).

 

[NUTTSGT]

A glove on one hand, why ? Is the tool getting that hot that you need a glove ? If the tool is that hot, either you're abusing it or using it way beyond it's means.

Either way, that is operator error in my book.

 

[JoeMcGov]

Wrong tool for the job. Sheesh.

 

[bwringer]

I'll note that the OP has not been back to this dogpile of a thread. Was he one of the morons in the video?


@socialmediafail...

 

[jd_1138]

DeWalt is the number one brand around here for carpenters. I've seen these things beat up, abused, dropped off 15 foot ladders, etc., and they never fail. I used to have a full set of new DeWalt. I felt guilty about not using them to their potential since I am a DIY'er only (and help a couple people with projects).

So I sold them to a contractor friend for a good price. Then I bought Makita and Ryobi tools. And DeWalt is owned by an American co., and they have some actual production here.

 

[JRC3]

I've abused plenty of DeWalts through the years. For me the chuck is always the issue, even on my 20v drill (not the impact driver). I assure you my 20v driver is way more used up than it was when that pic was taken. I've used the piss out of that thing without a single issue.

Anybody want to buy some old 18v tools? I have nearly everything they made. They good for weightlifting.

 

[Moparman390]

I've seen these clowns before:

Here they took a DeWalt DCF787 and put it head to head with a Makita XDT12Z that's in a more premium tier at roughly twice the price. (The Makita goes for $170 bare tool @ Amazon, $300+ with charger/bag/2 battery kit. The DeWalt, I can't find it bare but it comes in a kit with 1 battery/charger/bag, for $100 @ Lowes, $140 @ Amazon, so I figure the base tool is worth $80-$90.)

These clowns slapped a 60V battery on the DeWalt top make it look impressive then went about their sensational subjective testing (blocking vents, using the wrong speed/torque setting and so on). It's comical.

I recently watched a hammer drill review with much better testing methods by Toolbox Buzz, they show how something like this should be done and they caution that they aren't the end-all-be-all either, but they went to far greater lengths to make their testing as fair as possible.

https://www.toolboxbuzz.com/head-to-head/best-cordless-1-2-hammer-drill/

The clowns the OP found should never be taken seriously.

 

[JRC3]

I've seen these clowns before:

Sure seems pretty fair to me. I like how they even mentioned the good attributes of some of the tools that the scores may not have shown.

I'm also laughing while thinking of the Milwaukee and DeWalt fights and debates around here...One point separated the two.

 

[Moparman390]

Sure seems pretty fair to me. I like how they even mentioned the good attributes of some of the tools that the scores may not have shown.

I'm also laughing while thinking of the Milwaukee and DeWalt fights and debates around here...One point separated the two.

Yeah, when you boil it down really Red and Yellow make a pretty good tool and you can't really go wrong either way and it comes down to personal preference, application specific tools offered, or simply price and or availability for the specific user at the time of purchase (like a sale or HD being closer than Lowes). Heck, most brands preform well these days.

 

[NorteCatorce]

Shared this post with the guys on their current live stream.
Perhaps they will pop in and elaborate a bit.

 

[Two Speed]

^ that. Impacts ain't for drilling holes or using spade bits.

 

[Fixed]

^ that. Impacts ain't for drilling holes or using spade bits.

Why not? I'd rather use in impact rated spade bit in my impact than my drill any day of the week. It's shorter, just as fast, and less wrist-busting potential. Only downside is the noise, but hydraulic impacts have largely resolved that issue.

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[Bacon!]

While it is not the best tool for the job, impacts can drill fine. They (just like any tool) can't be pushed till they barely keep running and have your glove over the vent slits, then observe it overheat, then keep pushing it. Unless you want to damage it.

There should never be wrist busting potential. If you're using that much torque, you should have a tool with a side handle on it and be on it already to catch it with your other hand if the blade catches in the hole. Drills that lack a side handle are not suited for this size/spade, nor are users who have a drill that can have the side handle on but aren't using it. We all take minor risks from time to time, but if you're paying for the features of a tool well suited for a job, then you might as well use them.

 

[Knotgoalie]

Another one in the DCF887 camp. Mine is a year old and I work it but I don't abuse it and it does just fine without any heat problems. If I need serious impact action I pick up the DCF899 and the drilling chores fall to the DCD996...the right tool for the right job.

The videos where tools end up being "tested to destruction" invariably go to lengths that no sensible tool owner would subject their own tools to. As was said earlier in the thread, you can break/destroy anything if you put your mind to it.