DeWalt FlexVolt DCG414 dust shroud

[chrisingrassia]

hi everyone -
I'm at my last resort at this point, hoping someone......anyone......can help me out.
I have the DCG414 grinder. It's a 4.5"-to-6" grinder, and I need a dust shroud for it. I see that DeWalt sells both the DWE46152 (5" shroud) and DWE46170 (7" shroud). Does anyone know if either of those will work? Or some other aftermarket option?
I've contacted DeWalt through their website, no response.
I've asked people at HD and Lowes.....no help.
I've emailed a number or sellers on ebay of the grinder....no help.
I called the local DeWalt service center....no help.
I've read several reviews on various sites that say the 5" shroud won't work on the grinder.

Is there possibly anyone out there that uses this grinder with a shroud? Or know if I can use the 5" or 7"

 

[chrisingrassia]

No insight? Anyone?

 

[JoeMcGov]

Most of the shrouds and other "duct" collection accessories are currently driven by OSHA regulating silica which comes from working on dry concrete. That said, within this silica-dust world is something that OSHA calls their "Table 1." Tool manufacturers are now making dust related tools AND accessories in pursuit of compliance with OSHA Silica Table 1.

Now that I've covered the background, I don't believe that the two dust collection accessories you've identified and shown above are designed/intended to work with the FlexVolt grinder. Which *****.

Here's the link to DeWalt's OSHA Silica table 1 compliant tools. You'll see your accessories are identified and shown which DeWalt tools (grinders) they go with.

https://www.dewalt.com/~/media/dewalt/files/dewalt-osha-compliancy-final-817.pdf

 

[chrisingrassia]

Thank you very much for responding, I really appreciate your reply. Obviously not the answer I was hoping to hear though.
I don't need to worry anything about OSHA, I'm just a DIY'er doing a garage epoxy project and yes it'll be for grinding the concrete.

What do you think is the difference of the connection mechanism on all those grinders compared to the FlexVolt grinder? Any idea?
I noticed that the DeWalt chart you included doesn't have a single cordless tool shown on it -- 20V Max or FlexVolt. Curious...
I have to imagine DeWalt's grinders are very very similar with how the shroud accessory connects to those corded grinders to that of the FlexVolt grinder...

Most of the shrouds and other "duct" collection accessories are currently driven by OSHA regulating silica which comes from working on dry concrete. That said, within this silica-dust world is something that OSHA calls their "Table 1." Tool manufacturers are now making dust related tools AND accessories in pursuit of compliance with OSHA Silica Table 1.

Now that I've covered the background, I don't believe that the two dust collection accessories you've identified and shown above are designed/intended to work with the FlexVolt grinder. Which *****.

Here's the link to DeWalt's OSHA Silica table 1 compliant tools. You'll see your accessories are identified and shown which DeWalt tools (grinders) they go with.

https://www.dewalt.com/~/media/dewalt/files/dewalt-osha-compliancy-final-817.pdf

 

[chrisingrassia]

After 48min on hold, I just got a hold of Jennifer @ DeWalt who stated that the DCG414 will work with the DWE46152 and the DWE46100 (would have to remove some lever though). This gives me hope. I think I'll give it a try and then report back here. By the lack of internet info out there, I may be the first to do this.

 

[deluser-u]

I noticed that the DeWalt chart you included doesn't have a single cordless tool shown on it -- 20V Max or FlexVolt. Curious...

Don't know what size area you are trying to grind. Most concrete grinding jobs last hours of continuous grinding, even when just using the angle grinder for the edges. For that kind of usage corded is best.

 

[chrisingrassia]

I'm grinding up epoxy from my 2-car garage floor so I can re-do it. I started off hand scraping, but.......yeah, I'm going power tool + diamond wheel now. And gave me a reason to buy another FlexVolt tool

Don't know what size area you are trying to grind. Most concrete grinding jobs last hours of continuous grinding, even when just using the angle grinder for the edges. For that kind of usage corded is best.

 

[chrisingrassia]

Hey everyone - so this has been quite the task trying to figure all this out.
The DWE46152 shroud fits on the DCG414 FlexVolt grinder. The shroud has a port that works with the DWV9000 universal connector, but then I also needed to buy the DWV9190 so that I can attach it all to my DXV12P DeWalt shop vac and Dust Deputy setup.
Will start epoxy removal grinding project this weekend.
What a headache.

 

[Alexander]

Hey everyone - so this has been quite the task trying to figure all this out.
The DWE46152 shroud fits on the DCG414 FlexVolt grinder. The shroud has o port that works with the DWV9000 universal connector, but then I also needed to buy the DWV9190 so that I can attach it all to my DXV12P DeWalt shop vac and Dust Deputy setup.
Will start epoxy removal grinding project this weekend.
What a headache.

Thank you for posting this followup.

I may have zero need for this specific information, but I've been down this road a hundred times in the past - you have a problem, find a thread with relevant information, then the poster never comes back to report the findings.

Hope your project goes well!

 

[chrisingrassia]

I know exactly what you mean. If I had a nickel for every forums site I've read in my life for someone with the same question/problem I have and then they never even come back to the site, I'd be a rich man. Forums are only as useful as their members make them!
I'll do some follow-up posts as well and put up some pics of my tool setup

Thank you for posting this followup.

I may have zero need for this specific information, but I've been down this road a hundred times in the past - you have a problem, find a thread with relevant information, then the poster never comes back to report the findings.

Hope your project goes well!

 

[Wamsutta]

Most of the shrouds and other "duct" collection accessories are currently driven by OSHA regulating silica which comes from working on dry concrete. That said, within this silica-dust world is something that OSHA calls their "Table 1." Tool manufacturers are now making dust related tools AND accessories in pursuit of compliance with OSHA Silica Table 1.

Now that I've covered the background, I don't believe that the two dust collection accessories you've identified and shown above are designed/intended to work with the FlexVolt grinder. Which *****.

Here's the link to DeWalt's OSHA Silica table 1 compliant tools. You'll see your accessories are identified and shown which DeWalt tools (grinders) they go with.

https://www.dewalt.com/~/media/dewalt/files/dewalt-osha-compliancy-final-817.pdf

JoeMcGov - how did you find that link? If I started at the DeWalt home page, what would be the next step?

 

[chrisingrassia]

www.dewalt.com > Shop Preform & Protect > Learn More > Download Our Guide.
Would have never found it on my own. Literally happened across it the other day when I was searching for shroud connection accessories

JoeMcGov - how did you find that link? If I started at the DeWalt home page, what would be the next step?

 

[Wamsutta]

Notice what I have highlighted in bold red at the bottom of the second quote. Why couldn't DeWalt have included that information for the 5 inch dust shroud the same way they did for the 7 inch dust shroud? It would saved people a lot of searching.

DWE46152

FEATURES & SPECS

FEATURES

- Dust collection shroud with flush grinding door allows dust collection for flush edge grinding

- Universal vacuum hose connection locks onto the tool with a twist and click eliminating the use of tape to secure the hose to the shroud

INCLUDES

DWE46152 Dust Shroud

https://www.dewalt.com/products/pow...-vacs/5-surface-grinding-dust-shroud/dwe46152


DWE46170

FEATURES & SPECS


FEATURES

- A Perform and Protect™ dust feature that aids in dust collection and containment

- Spring loaded, hinged door, provides a dust collection solution for both open area grinding and flush edge grinding

- Universal connector locks onto tool with a twist and click eliminating the need for duct tape to hold the hose onto the shroudTool-free clamp system is compatible with all DEWALT® large angle grinders

- Delivers a dust shroud that will last in abusive jobsite enviornments and resist abrasion from debris collected

- Flexible yet durable material allows the user to adjust pressure on the grinder to maintain contact on concrete surface without compromising the durability of the shroud

- Provides improved productivity when efficient dust collection system/vac is used

- Helps reduce user exposure to harmful Silica Dust

Fits all DEWALT LAGs but ideally suited for DWE4597 and DWE4557

https://www.dewalt.com/products/pow...-vacs/7-surface-grinding-dust-shroud/dwe46170

 

[chrisingrassia]

Pretty much agreed. Having to "navigate" all of DeWalt's products made it pretty tough to get (what I thought to be) a very simple answer. I think this is sort of the future, too, of conglomerates buying out brand after brand after brand after brand. I can't just call B&D and get a very specific answer to a single DeWalt product. Heck, DeWalt doesn't even have a customer support phone # on their "Contact Us" page, just an online inquiry form. Do you think I got a response to the inquiry I sent on that page?
And with places like HD and Lowes becoming more and more and more about sales volume over sales quality, I can't even walk in there anymore and ask a question, they're all clueless. It's sad. That's why things like the internet and forums like GJ are instrumental and absolutely critical to research and support.

I did my first floor section tonight. What I can say is that the shroud is not perfect for the FlexVolt grinder. I certainly got a TON of epoxy and dust into the Dust Deputy and into the bucket, but after both my 9ah batteries burned out, I did have to clean my DXV12P filter and there was a considerable amount of "debris" spitting out from under the shroud.
Back to the grind tomorrow morning (....of course pun intended, I'm witty).

 

[Wamsutta]

Pretty much agreed. Having to "navigate" all of DeWalt's products made it pretty tough to get (what I thought to be) a very simple answer. I think this is sort of the future, too, of conglomerates buying out brand after brand after brand after brand. I can't just call B&D and get a very specific answer to a single DeWalt product. Heck, DeWalt doesn't even have a customer support phone # on their "Contact Us" page, just an online inquiry form. Do you think I got a response to the inquiry I sent on that page?
And with places like HD and Lowes becoming more and more and more about sales volume over sales quality, I can't even walk in there anymore and ask a question, they're all clueless. It's sad. That's why things like the internet and forums like GJ are instrumental and absolutely critical to research and support.

I did my first floor section tonight. What I can say is that the shroud is not perfect for the FlexVolt grinder. I certainly got a TON of epoxy and dust into the Dust Deputy and into the bucket, but after both my 9ah batteries burned out, I did have to clean my DXV12P filter and there was a considerable amount of "debris" spitting out from under the shroud.
Back to the grind tomorrow morning (....of course pun intended, I'm witty).

There was one thread where a guy needed to verify the correct guard for his Makita grinder. It was an absolute piece of cake finding the correct guard in the Makita catalog.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406138&highlight=makita

 

[chrisingrassia]

Best update I can provide right now. I washed it all down yesterday and used citrus degreaser. If I use the grinder and shroud to grind the concrete, the setup works 100x better than if I try to grind up the old epoxy. Had good absorption and drying, I think it's ready for primer and then new epoxy!