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rpearlberg

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I'm looking for a miter saw. I'm just a homeowner with random projects to do around the house. I have this problem that I always want the biggest/baddest that there is even if I don't need it for my projects...

I'm currently looking at the DW717 (on sale today only at Amazon for $375). Any other options that I should look at. I don't really want to spend more than that. Is the 12" version really much better? I know you can cut bigger pieces, but blades cost more, takes up more room, blade deflection, etc...

Or do I just go with a DW713 or something similar....

Help me choose!!!

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dewalts have really gone down hill these days. makita makes an excellent saw. they are the best imo
 

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Personally I still like the Dewalt stuff. My FIL is a contractor and has never used anything but Dewalt and has never burned up a power tool from them. I just got the DWS780 with jobsite stand for father's day. Excellent build quality and lots of power cutting through 2x8's.

Even if you don't get a Dewalt I definitely suggest getting a 12" saw regardless. Even better would be a 12" slider.
 

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I have a DeWalt #718 dual bevel compound slider, with a DeWalt #723 stand.
It's heavy, it's awkward, a pain to set up. but once up and set............ sweet.
you'll need the laser attachment.
 

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My dad has a dewalt miter saw, never had any problems but its nothing impressive. I prefer the makitas
 

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The Milwaukee is bad ***. Bosch is state of the art. Makita is grand. I like Dewalts too. At the bottom are Ryobi and Hitachi. Ryobi makes Ridgid last I knew. Anything that says Delta or Crapsman is trash.
 
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I'm pretty loyal to DeWalt tools, so I'll probably stick with DeWalt....just can't decide if I should spend the extra dough on the 12" slider as opposed to the 10" slider...
 

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I'm pretty loyal to DeWalt tools, so I'll probably stick with DeWalt....just can't decide if I should spend the extra dough on the 12" slider as opposed to the 10" slider...

you spend what you are comfortable with.
a miter saw is a major cash layout.
I'd get the 12'', instead of getting the 10, and, 6 months down the road wish you got the 12.
 
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I stopped at Lowe's this morning just to see what they had since I always go to HD. they have a Hitachi C10FCE2 marked down from $139 to $114 plus another 10% off...

I know it's not close to the DW717 or DW718, but what are your thoughts....
 

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Here are my reviews about the biggest and bestest DWS780. The 1st link is via ToolGuyd, the 2nd via Make. The Make one has a lot more photos.

http://toolguyd.com/dewalt-dws780-sliding-miter-saw-review/
http://blog.makezine.com/2012/04/24/tool-review-dewalt-dws780-sliding-miter-saw/

I also have, or at least had, a DW713 for testing. It's a wonderful saw and much smaller than the 12" sliding model, but its cutting capacity isn't even close.

I normally follow a "go big or don't bring it home" motto with tools, but a 12" model is not always better than a 10" if you don't need the extra capacity and features. In terms of 10" sliding vs 12" sliding, I'm not sure there's a very substantial difference in size.

DWS780 vs DW713 is more featured and has a higher cut capacity, but it also much pricier and much larger. 12" blades usually cost more than 10" ones as well.

In my opinion, unless you really can't spare the extra space or little extra $$, you might want to consider the DWS780 over the DW717 that you're looking at. I'm a HUGE fan of the 780's XPS lighting system, but there's also an add-on module you can add to the DW717.
 

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I don't think you would go wrong with DeWalt, Bosch, Hitachi, or Makita. It then comes down to price and ergonomics. BTW, Lowes has both the Hitachi & DeWalt for $299. JMHO.
 
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that's what I figure, that it's just preference and how much I want to spend....
I'm wishing I would have bought the DW717 from Amazon yesterday....I might have to try the pricematch at HD for the DW718.
 

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Are the Lowes and HD saws Gonna be the lower quality ones?

I see all the time how the Big Box stores negotiate lower prices with manufacturers, but the quality is compromised.

Ive heard about it with John Deere Mowers having thinner steel, less reliable engines, and more plastic parts. And Ive heard of other power tool brands having more plastic inner components compared to metal innards when you buy elsewhere.
 

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Stay away from the Craftmen 12" compound miter. Bought one about 6-7 years ago and wish I'd bought the Dewalt instead.

after buying that from Sears, I swore I'd never buy another one of their power tools again.
 
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I'm kicking myself for not buying yesterday, although I don't need one right away and I'm sure there will be other deals.
 

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I'm wishing I would have bought the DW717 from Amazon yesterday....I might have to try the pricematch at HD for the DW718.

Just remember, a 12" saw takes more room to store, weighs more and the blades cost more.

Almost everyone will tell you, go out and buy good blades because the stock ones aren't very good. Price a Diablo 10" and 12" carbide tooth cross cut blade and a carbide tip high tooth count plywood/trim blade.
 
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Yeah, again, I really don't even have a need right now, just want to add one to the work bench. I think the 10" slider would be perfect. Was going to get a DW713, but the 717 offers much more....
 

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Just remember, a 12" saw takes more room to store, weighs more and the blades cost more.

Almost everyone will tell you, go out and buy good blades because the stock ones aren't very good. Price a Diablo 10" and 12" carbide tooth cross cut blade and a carbide tip high tooth count plywood/trim blade.

People continually mention that, but I really think those points are overstated for a homeowner/DIYer. You're not moving the saws around every day and apples to apples, 10 to 12 inch sliders in the same family are about a 5 lb difference. If anything I've found the added bulk makes the 12" more difficult to schlep around. However, once you give it a home on a bench or stand, it may not matter that much. The difference in rail clearance needed behind the saw isn't that much, both require a good bit unless you're looking at a Makita 4 rail or the super duper Bosch axial glide whatchamacallit. The blades...I paid 10% more for a Forrest 12" blade vs. the 10" counterpart. Even if it was 30% more, how often is a DIYer going to need to replace the blades? I might have to get it sharpened once or twice in the next 10 years before I go looking for a replacement blade. I'll use the factory blade for rough cutting and the good blade I purchased for trimwork.

I think at the end of the day, you buy what you need, and that point goes to capacity. If you're going to work with larger stock and expect to be making a lot of compound cuts (crown), maybe you're better off with the larger saw?
 
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Found a DeWalt DW705 on craigslist for $300, now they are saying $200....maybe I'll get to start and see how I like it...I can always re-sell it later on if want a different one.
 

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a 10" SLIDING saw is very very capable. only rarely would you need the extra few inches the 12" model is going to present.

i know a lot of trim guys in the industry and Makita has had some of the best saws out for a while now. i went with the LS1016L with laser and absolutely love it. i work for myself and rely on quality machines for income.

if you are really considering moving it around, save money and buy a 10" and buy the mobile stands that most mfgs offer.

and really, if you buy a good Makita, Dewalt, or Bosch you wont be disappointed. Stay away from Craftsmen, Ryobi, Habor Freight, Etc....
 
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Thanks. I want the DW717 that was on sale the other day, but not sure if i should buy the 12" i found on CL for $200 and test it out....
 

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Be careful with the craigslist finds. Missing accessories, damaged or just downright dangerous. Not saying you can't find a good deal, but I've stumbled on a lot of beat equipment out there, and I found with a miter saw it really wasn't worth my time.

The best was a 12" porter cable. Talked to the guy over the phone and he said he's moving and he's done DIYing things, he's reached a point where he just wants to call someone. Price was good, saw works great, but there is a crack in the fence which is cosmetic only (he was doing something he really shouldn't have been doing, and the work piece got thrown by the blade). I get there and look it over. The left fence has a missing piece of metal but still looks usable. A bunch of parts are missing. He goes looking in the basement two times after I ask him where *** is. Eventually he digs up all the stuff not even realizing he had it. I grab the fence extensions (never used) and try to put them on the saw...no go. Very tight fit. The saw doesn't appear to be square, so I try to square it. I discover my straight edge is rocking on the left fence...it's not straight it's bowed. Apparently the damage wasn't just cosmetic as he thought and this was the reason the fence extension wouldn't slide in place. That damage would allow a work piece to pinch the trailing edge of the blade as you dropped the blade, if you were applying pressure to the work piece just inside of where the bow in the fence was. Somebody IS going to get hurt using the saw as-is. He seemed indifferent thinking this was my way of knocking down the price. I flat out told him I can't buy it at any price (not knowing how much a replacement fence was going to cost) and that he really shouldn't use this saw. His response...if I can't sell it, I'll just keep it. It's good enough for whatever I would need to do. *sigh*
 

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Can't a 10" slider cut just about everything that a 12" non-slider can?

That is exactly what I am thinking too. The spec for DW717 shows that it can cut up to 2x12s. However, the slider seems to be very pricy.

I'm not a mitre saw expert nor do I have one, but I have been thinking about getting one for quite a while. If I were to buy today, I probably would have bought a 12" non slider model which would be able to cut up to 2x8s. I don't think I have ever cut anything wider than 8" and if I do run into a few, I would just use a circular saw and a large 12 inch "speed square" to keep the cut nice and straight.

Just my 2 cents ...
 

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I have a 12" dual compound dewalt with led light it is awesome and great for trim and crown besides kickin big board ****! Very handy on a rigid mobile stand.
 

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That is exactly what I am thinking too. The spec for DW717 shows that it can cut up to 2x12s. However, the slider seems to be very pricy.

I'm not a mitre saw expert nor do I have one, but I have been thinking about getting one for quite a while. If I were to buy today, I probably would have bought a 12" non slider model which would be able to cut up to 2x8s. I don't think I have ever cut anything wider than 8" and if I do run into a few, I would just use a circular saw and a large 12 inch "speed square" to keep the cut nice and straight.

Just my 2 cents ...

On a plain jane cross cut, most 10's may be sufficient, but let's suppose you want to cut a shelf at 90 degrees...most of the shelves in my house are over 12". You could use a circular saw, just make sure you have a fine tooth blade handy.

Mitering at 45 degrees reduces the cross cut capacity (usually not a huge deal, however some 10's have a significantly reduced capacity as soon as you try to miter).

Cutting a 4x4 on a 10 usually involves flipping the stock over to complete the cut (and taking care to line up the blade).

Cutting tall base molding against the fence is problematic for most 10's. Even with the DW717 you have full capacity on one side of the blade, but on the other, you run into clearance issues. If you're close to the vertical capacity of the saw, I believe you need to trim it to length (or close to), then take a second pass to miter it (not 100% sure on this). Every other 10 I've seen will only do 4.75" against the fence. You could cut it flat, but it's hard to get the kind of precision you'll get out of the miter scale (you're miter scale is 4x's the length of the bevel scale). I can dial in 0.25 degrees on a miter, on a bevel I'll have a hard time getting 1 degree of accuracy (don't forget, you're working with the weight of the saw head when locking it in place). If you ask why that's important, it's because none of your walls are square. If you want tight fitting outside corners on your base molding, you'll want to use the miter scale (you would be amazed at the gap you'll see if you cut for a 90 degree corner when it's really 88 degrees).

Cutting crown is another issue.

At the end of the day, it depends on what you need. I got a 10" thinking I'm not cutting anything larger than a 2x12. I quickly learned that my limitations lie elsewhere and had to resell it and get a 12. BTW, I'm not an expert by any means. Just a guy trying to fix/improve his house. Most will do fine with a 10, but you really do have to look at the kind of work you will be doing and then choose the appropriate size saw. HTH!
 
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