Dewalt tools assembled in USA

[oldtools]

Dewalt said their tools made in US are the same quality as those made in Asia, so I don't see how people keep complaining Dewalt Asian tools are ****.

[] 9. Are the products that are built in the USA better quality or different than the products made in other countries?

Our products that are built in the USA using global materials maintain the same Guaranteed Tough quality our customers have come to know and expect from DEWALT.

 

[honcho]

The factors that influence moving production to different places around the world are many and diverse. It wouldn't surprise me to find that politics, tax breaks, generating consumer goodwill and a host of other factors were involved in Stanley / DeWalt's decision.

Individually, we might want to keep everything in the USA, but if we were making the managerial decisions, we might make the same type of choices that virtually every USA company has made regarding overseas and domestic production. Depending on where you sit in a company, things look different. Doesn't make all the choices right or good, but capitalism and profitability isn't about fairness.

That said, many DeWalt tools have been assembled in Mexico in recent years but with their newest 12v & 20v tools they've been coming from China. In my view, Mexico is better than China but worse than domestic. I'm glad to hear of the small shift back to USA assembly.

It would be very difficult to economically compete if they didn't source components from around the world because, while things CAN be made in the USA, so many consumer grade items are just not economical to produce here.

The one component that comes to mind that's required for power tools is small electrical motors. I'd be amazed too learn if any large scale production of such fractional horspower motors is still done in the USA.

I wish them luck because if our countrymen don't have jobs, how the heck are they going to be able to buy anything from anywhere?

 

[The Frisco Kid]

"made in USA with global materials"

If you clean up dog **** in china and dispose of it in the USA it's still dog ****.

If that makes any sense?

At least it's making some American jobs for dog **** disposal. If it's straight up PRC dog ****, we get nothing at all out of it!

 

[thebeekeeper1]

"We putting in box now" = "assembled in USA"

 

[neophyte]

The factors that influence moving production to different places around the world are many and diverse. It wouldn't surprise me to find that politics, tax breaks, generating consumer goodwill and a host of other factors were involved in Stanley / DeWalt's decision.

Individually, we might want to keep everything in the USA, but if we were making the managerial decisions, we might make the same type of choices that virtually every USA company has made regarding overseas and domestic production. Depending on where you sit in a company, things look different. Doesn't make all the choices right or good, but capitalism and profitability isn't about fairness.

That said, many DeWalt tools have been assembled in Mexico in recent years but with their newest 12v & 20v tools they've been coming from China. In my view, Mexico is better than China but worse than domestic. I'm glad to hear of the small shift back to USA assembly.

It would be very difficult to economically compete if they didn't source components from around the world because, while things CAN be made in the USA, so many consumer grade items are just not economical to produce here.

The one component that comes to mind that's required for power tools is small electrical motors. I'd be amazed too learn if any large scale production of such fractional horspower motors is still done in the USA.

I wish them luck because if our countrymen don't have jobs, how the heck are they going to be able to buy anything from anywhere?

There was a review of cordless drills in a woodworking magazine maybe 10 years ago. Almost all the drills reviewed used motors produced in china, I'm not sure what company produced the motors but it may have been Johnson. If I recall correctly Dewalt and Makita may have manufactured their own motors, which was mentioned since it allowed the motors to be repaired rather than just replaced. I'm not sure what the current situation is since higher end brands are transitioning to brushless motors. Fein is producing the motors in their new ASCM series drills in Germany. It wouldn't surprise me if Makita manufactures the cordless motors for their higher end tools in Japan, but I'm not certain. Bosch supposedly used to produce many of their motors in Germany, even when the tools were being assembled in other countries. With changes in design it wouldn't surprise me if more manufacturers ditched Chinese production for some critical components.

 

[Skin]

There was a review of cordless drills in a woodworking magazine maybe 10 years ago. Almost all the drills reviewed used motors produced in china, I'm not sure what company produced the motors but it may have been Johnson. If I recall correctly Dewalt and Makita may have manufactured their own motors, which was mentioned since it allowed the motors to be repaired rather than just replaced. I'm not sure what the current situation is since higher end brands are transitioning to brushless motors. Fein is producing the motors in their new ASCM series drills in Germany. It wouldn't surprise me if Makita manufactures the cordless motors for their higher end tools in Japan, but I'm not certain. Bosch supposedly used to produce many of their motors in Germany, even when the tools were being assembled in other countries. With changes in design it wouldn't surprise me if more manufacturers ditched Chinese production for some critical components.

Have to be careful with Germany and probably Japan too. Most countries COO requirements aren't anywhere near as strict as the FTC rules on "Made in USA".

You say Fein says they're making their motors in Germany? I call BS. Their getting their components from China and assembling them there. One reason China is the go-to for electric motors is their stranglehold on the production of the raw materials required to create them. The requirement of material/manufacture in any particular item for a "Made in Germany" or just "Germany" label is only something like 20%. Unless a company is very open about where they're sourcing everything from you'll never quite know what you're getting.

 

[nicksnothereman]

Have to be careful with Germany and probably Japan too. Most countries COO requirements aren't anywhere near as strict as the FTC rules on "Made in USA".

You say Fein says they're making their motors in Germany? I call BS. Their getting their components from China and assembling them there. One reason China is the go-to for electric motors is their stranglehold on the production of the raw materials required to create them. The requirement of material/manufacture in any particular item for a "Made in Germany" or just "Germany" label is only something like 20%. Unless a company is very open about where they're sourcing everything from you'll never quite know what you're getting.

I think they do this with canadian and/or mexican imports then taking advantage of nafta. I recall hearing a story about canada and chinese spices. They import the spices then throw them in jars then stamp them made in canada (or something similar).

It's smart on the business' part but it's still fraud.

 

[neophyte]

Have to be careful with Germany and probably Japan too. Most countries COO requirements aren't anywhere near as strict as the FTC rules on "Made in USA".

You say Fein says they're making their motors in Germany? I call BS. Their getting their components from China and assembling them there. One reason China is the go-to for electric motors is their stranglehold on the production of the raw materials required to create them. The requirement of material/manufacture in any particular item for a "Made in Germany" or just "Germany" label is only something like 20%. Unless a company is very open about where they're sourcing everything from you'll never quite know what you're getting.

From the website page advertising the drill. Link.

http://www.feinus.com/en_us/specials/drills/

 

[neophyte]

Fein isn't just saying, "Germany" for the motor, they're saying, "made in Germany." I believe the switches Fein uses are manufactured for them by Marquardt, in Germany, or at least the switches I've checked on some Fein items in the past were made by Marquardt. I don't know whether Fein can source the circuitry for the brushless motors in Germany, but there are circuitry manufacturers in Europe that specialize in components for motors. What motor materials other than circuitry components might Fein not be able to source from Europe?

 

[sloppy]

Have to be careful with Germany and probably Japan too. Most countries COO requirements aren't anywhere near as strict as the FTC rules on "Made in USA".

You say Fein says they're making their motors in Germany? I call BS. Their getting their components from China and assembling them there. One reason China is the go-to for electric motors is their stranglehold on the production of the raw materials required to create them. The requirement of material/manufacture in any particular item for a "Made in Germany" or just "Germany" label is only something like 20%. Unless a company is very open about where they're sourcing everything from you'll never quite know what you're getting.

Fein is definitely making their motors in house. There may be some exceptions to their motors but they do make some if not most in house. They are pretty open about their product..

 

[SlappyWhite]

The rules for "Made in Germany" are pretty weak at best. Not saying they do not make their items in Germany just that Germany has weak rules.

 

[Monte]

Re: Fein
some members of a german tool forum visited the Fein factory in 2012. They do produce their own brushless motors...
here some pics:
http://www.werkzeug-news.de/de/branchen-news/12/fein-werkzeugmeeting-874.html

http://www.werkzeug-news.de/de/bran...eeting-874/fein-betriebsbesichtigung-875.html

Since brushless motors are the future of cordless tools (and corded....) i think we will see more companies building their own brushless motors since the amount of sales of corded tools is dropping while the amount of cordless tools is increasing.
Bosch also advertise their brushless rotary hammer with a "Bosch built" motor and Festool also builds their own brushless motors in germany.

Re: Made in Germany
there possibly will be a new EU law in the future which requires that 55% of a product must be made in the country which is stated on the label of the product.

in case of Fein you can see in this video which parts of a Fein BOP drill are made in germany and which in asia (parts on the left at the end of the video (screws, bearings etc.))

 

[Skin]

Fein isn't just saying, "Germany" for the motor, they're saying, "made in Germany." I believe the switches Fein uses are manufactured for them by Marquardt, in Germany, or at least the switches I've checked on some Fein items in the past were made by Marquardt. I don't know whether Fein can source the circuitry for the brushless motors in Germany, but there are circuitry manufacturers in Europe that specialize in components for motors. What motor materials other than circuitry components might Fein not be able to source from Europe?

I believe Germany and Made in Germany on products are synonymous by law so that's why I said that. I'd honestly be very surprised if they were manufacturing the windings and magnets of the motors in Germany from raw materials as opposed to being shipped everything and doing basic assembly. As I said, its not by choice most of these small motors are made in China, its also a byproduct because that's where most of the materials are originating from to begin with. Not picking on Fein for any reason either, any brand could of been mentioned and i'd still not believe it because of that.

 

[Greatbear]

When I first started buying cordless DeWalt tools, most of them were made in the US.