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Did I get a junk 4 post car lift?

mikedodge

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Unless it's worse in person i was going to say too it looks like flash rust. It could even have happened if it was raining when it was delivered. You can probably wipe it down with some grease and never see it was there.
It's either not going to get any worse in your garage or it will in which case it would have started doing that to begin with. But I agree i wouldn't want to see it either on something I paid good money for.
 
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When the op complained about rust, my mind was picturing something in the order of that on the used two post Rotary the other thread complaining about the YouTube guy making the sketchy slab had.

That’s some serious rust, but no worse than what I see in many working shops.
thats what i was thinking too. got a link for that thread? id love to see the comments, i was cringing the entire video.
 

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When the boss of the lift company came and set the lift up I would have thought he would have tried it to see it worked ok
That would have been the best time to mention the rust you may have got a discount
as said above wipe it and paint it
Graham
 

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I'd take pictures, communicate my disappointment, also communicate how the install went and attach the pics. Then, see if I could leverage that for some free accessories like drip tray, rolling jack etc...
 

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I read the post...he was talking about exchanging it...getting some extras is a far better option. We all have different expectations of what superior customer service looks like. I for one wouldn't be pleased with a manager having to come out to fix a sloppy install. I wouldn't be pleased to have to remove surface rust on a new purchase. What's the harm in asking the company to reimburse me for my inconvenience? Worse they can say is no.
 

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Sorry Ohio Auto, but you're just a complainer who want's a pretty lift. Hire someone to paint and pinstripe it and leave us alone.
 

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I'm a complainer because I encourage the OP to negotiate a free add on instead of calling them to replace the whole lift?

Lol...whatever dude.
 

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I guess I'm in the minority as well, but I wouldn't be happy spending $40 on something that is supposed to be new and has rust, let alone $4k. Even if it is just flash rust, the company should have cleaned it, painted it, done whatever it takes to make it look "new." If something is going to get dinged, damaged, scratched, used, whatever - I want to be the one to do it. Not have it come that way.
 

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I guess I'm in the minority as well, but I wouldn't be happy spending $40 on something that is supposed to be new and has rust, let alone $4k. Even if it is just flash rust, the company should have cleaned it, painted it, done whatever it takes to make it look "new." If something is going to get dinged, damaged, scratched, used, whatever - I want to be the one to do it. Not have it come that way.
You don’t live in the rust belt, do you?

Minor surface rust stains are a fact of life some places.

I wouldn’t like it either, but I wouldn’t get my ******* in a knot over it.

It will take less time to fix it than to call out the National Guard and make a frontal attack on some schlep of a vendor.

Life’s short. Pick your battles.
 

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Go walk around any new car dealership... esp in States that use salt. Every vehicle manufacture has flash rust like the lift does on their vehicles.
 

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Yeah, what jhelrey said, maybe just my perspective but I look at a lift as a tool, my primary concern about tools is functionality. A little surface dust isn't going to affect the functionality or longevity of the lift. I think when I bought mine the manufacturer gave or offered some touch up paint for any scratches that occured in shipping. Just the nature of the beast.
 

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Looks like some flash rust. My BendPac was not perfect, but it functions well. Wipe it off, light coat of oil and touch up with a spray can. Once it leaves the factory, lord knows what will happen to it in a warehouse and during transport.
 

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Can we not expect better quality on something you spend thousands on? Seems everything these days is just cheap **** that the manufacturers can get away with. What happened to pride over profit?
Depends... if I paid for a high end hoist, like Mohawk, yes.

If it's a cheap unit, let's say from China, sourced off Ebay, no.
 

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The cables and those crimped on ends are not powder coated. I don't think they ever are.

The rust in the other places looks like where two pieces of metal are joined/butted together and the powder coating wasn't able to get into the crevices but a little water did. The steel flash rusted but that's it. Spray it with CLR and smear some gp grease in those gaps and wipe off the excess.
Not supposed to paint or power coat lifting rigging. Can't properly inspect them. Can apply cable lube.

If it should have lube or not, that I've never figured out for sure.
We left our slings clean and replaced them every 5 years. The bridge cranes had lubed cables, no cable shelf life.
We load tested every so often though... sorry can't recall, been nearly 20 years!


I failed an inspection when I ran a tool room for cable slings that has painted hooks. Came from Crosby like that!
 
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As many have already pointed out, the rust that is visible is not alarming from a structural standpoint. You know from the price that it is not likely going to have premium workmanship, and I suspect the real problem IF it was actually powder coated is it did not stay in the oven long enough to fuse the paint in those places. Take a screwdriver to the obvious coating failure areas and chip it back until it gets to bonded coating, spray on a conversion coating (POR for instance) and paint over with matching colour. You will probably die before the lift does.
 

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Agree with the rest, that rust is only light superficial and will not affect reliability or function. It is disappointing, but seems to just be some moisture that got in during shipping, and uncoated steel rusted a bit. I doubt any negotiation will result in anymore than the company coming out and cleaning the rust off. Personally I would just clean the rust and spray bomb it. It will not rust more now that it is inside the garage.
As a funny comment, at my old house and the lift I purchased, the lift came with a can of touch up paint.
 

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Can we not expect better quality on something you spend thousands on? Seems everything these days is just cheap **** that the manufacturers can get away with. What happened to pride over profit?
We've done it to ourselves, we continually shop for the best/cheapest price on everything we buy, and then we piss and moan when the
quality doesn't meet our standards. One or the other, you'll seldom find both.
 

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So frustrating. I don't think I would recommend Direct lift if this is their quality. I heard good things about them and didn't want to do 220v for Bendpak.
From what I've seen here, I suspect you find similar or worse from BendPak. I've been very happy with my Direct Lift for several years now.
 

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Do not click this link unless you're sending that machine back.
That "comparison" is hilarious. "BendPak currently does not offer an 8,000-lb. max capacity four-post lifting solution. Therefore, this test is not at all concerned with weight capacity—they fully believe that each lift is capable of supporting the reported amount."
Had they compared the 9000lb Bendpak to the 9000lb Direct Lift they would have found 90% of the talking points to be mute, and in many cases, better on the Direct Lift.
 
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Wow, I can't believe some of the comments. You paid money for a new lift, and expect it to be free of rust. That's completely reasonable.

From the point of view of the corrosion, it's not an issue. Clean it up with a wire wheel or brush and spray a conversion coating (rust converter) on those areas before painting them. The unpainted areas like cables, just clean it up and use some fluid film. However, I would talk to the distributor as that condition isn't what's expected for a new product.

I can say that my Direct Lift is about 8 years old, in a heated garage in Alberta, and has zero of the corrosion issues that yours does. In fact, the painted/powder coated surfaces on mine are in perfect condition, and there is no rust on the cables or anything. We don't put our daily drivers on the lift in winter, but store them in the same garage in adjacent bays.

I have experience with commercial lifts as well. The Direct Lift isn't a commercial lift, for sure, but it's made by Rotary, one of the biggest names in the game, and it's an ALI certified hobbyist lift. It's not cheap junk, as some of the commenters want to claim. Having worked with, maintained, and repaired commercial lifts and now worked with my Direct quite a bit, the direct is perfectly suitable for a hobbyist lift. I have no idea why some of the commenters think a pretty good hobbyist lift should be expected to have even surface corrosion when new.

Many hobbyist lifts aren't certified at all, and therefore have questionable designs and capacity.

That comparison with BendPak and Direct is laughable. They're trying to claim it's inferior, but it was never meant to be equal to the BP. It's perfectly suitable for what it is designed for, which that article ignores.
 

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Don’t limit it to the Big 3. Plenty of Nissans, Toyota’s, and especially Subarus around for sale as parts only because of corroded and subsequently missing suspension mounting points.
Ya, but the Big 3 sell vehicles with rusting under carriages new off the dealership lot.
 

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The oxide film (rust) is cause by oxygen and water(moisture). It will start and stop creating layers went water and oxygen is present. When you eliminate one of the contributors it will stop the rust. Coatings are the number one protector. Clean off the rust scale and grease. Paint it with clear or black.
95% of all lifts 2 post and 4 post are manufactured in China. They might be designed in the USA …. Made in China.
My previous lift was a 4 post Direct Lift.
 

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There is a reason lifts are made in china...diy people are cheap ...they get what they asked for...something low cost ... lower quality.
There should be no bitchen!
Geez...a little flash rust😆
 

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There is a reason lifts are made in china...diy people are cheap ...they get what they asked for...something low cost ... lower quality.
There should be no bitchen!
Geez...a little flash rust😆
The same company that makes this lift also makes Rotary lifts, which are commercial grade lifts. It's a fable that everything made in China is of poor quality. It's just like here, you can get junk or good stuff. My Direct is really nice quality.

As far as hobby lifts go, Direct are quite nice and are ALI certified, which many aren't. If a product is advertised as having a certain finish, surface rust is definitely not to be expected and should be treated as what it is, a defect.

It's easy to bad mouth a product that you've never owned or seen.
 

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It is light surface rust, buy a lift to work on cars but have an issue with flash rust? I seriously wonder if this is just a trolling post.
 

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OP hasn't been back for six weeks.
Perhaps the thread could just die gracefully now?
 

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WTH.... as if that little flash rush and started crying... I blame the water.
.. Serious fluffy flockery going on mind of some people these days....
 
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