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Did I purchase wrong windows, or just overthinking

cliffcharb

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I installed the smaller windows today in my garage build. My plan is to box the window with 5/4 Hardi Trim.
Looking at the drain holes this would drain the window onto the top of the trim. Is that going to be an issue or just let it roll.

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Are those retrofit windows? Hard to tell off my phone but…
 

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I don't like what I'm seeing. Are you sure those windows are for new construction? They don't look appropriate for siding and trim board to be installed around them.
 

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Are they drain holes, or weep holes to allow pressure out when you close the door?
 
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Rusted Nut

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There should be a piece of flashing from under the window over the bottom trim board. The weep hole drain onto the flashing and over the trim
 
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cliffcharb

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This.

Where's the nail flange?

What's the white stuff smeared in?
The windows have an exterior flange and are screwed into the rough opening from the interior side.
That’s my first window so overdid the sealant, I just smoothed it out before tape flashing.
As far as being retrofit windows I’m not 100% sure. My building plans were sent to the vendor so they knew what to order.
 
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This looks to be a a 5/8" flash flange or as some call it a Florida Flange as its that common an installation where you are. Look up the manufacturers installation recommendations for that frame type. It's traditionally not installed with adjacent trim that sticks proud of the window frame but it could be but I would put a sloped metal wall flashing over the top of that trim
 

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Do you have a window that's not installed to post a profile picture? I'm really curious about the flange that you say is screwed from the interior side. Or either a picture of the inside of the installed window.
 

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So if it's a Florida Flange style window then it's designed to be installed in masonry construction without a framed trim around it?
 
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cliffcharb

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Do you have a window that's not installed to post a profile picture? I'm really curious about the flange that you say is screwed from the interior side. Or either a picture of the inside of the installed window.
Likely wrong terminology, screwed through the frame not the flange.
 

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I think those should be installed on top of whatever trim you put on. I've seen that type of window installed on T-111 jobs. The drain scuppets are really onlf for if the windows are open and a little rain gets in. I haven't seen that type of window in a long time.
 

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It's hard to see what you have here due to the shadow created from the sun. Can you take a side profile picture?

Edit: I now see that it's not a shadow, its some type of translucent paper you have? Nonetheless, I would have gone with a J-channel style nailing fin where the siding butts up against it/inside of it
 
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So yes, that is a flush flange style install. This is generally installed into masonry with a large sealant bead backbedded on that flange, then pushed up against wall and secured with fasteners thru the interior of the window. It can be done with wood framing as well, just not as common but that is also heavily due to Florida, especially south and east Florida building materials being masonry vs wood framing...thank you hurricanes

As to the weeps, they exist on the vast majority of residential vinyl hung/sliding windows like this as its an efficient design. Works and cost effective. If the trim around it will stick proud of the exterior face of the flange, review if you can put positive slope(away from building) to reduce the risk of water pooling on the trim. This is only a concern at the sill, common building design/water mangt will have a wall flashing/head flashing over the top of the head trim, before the first course of siding goes across.
 
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cliffcharb

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If the trim around it will stick proud of the exterior face of the flange, review if you can put positive slope(away from building) to reduce the risk of water pooling on the trim. This is only a concern at the sill, common building design/water mangt will have a wall flashing/head flashing over the top of the head trim, before the first course of siding goes across.
This is going to be my plan. I’ll chamfer the lower trim to direct water outward.
I confirmed through the product approvals I should have been sold an “Integral Flange”

Being in SW Florida almost everything is block construction so even though they had the plans and I adamantly mentioned this was wood framed construction this info went in one ear and out the other. Me not knowing any better, well here I am trying to determine best way to make it work.
Thanks for the suggestions.
 
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