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Did the unthinkable at Harbor Freight

willf650

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I did something I never thought I would do. I bought a power tool at Harbor Freight.

I bought a Bauer sliding compound miter saw. It seems nice enough and I don’t use this type of tool often enough to justify buying a good one. The one I killed cutting something I shouldn’t was a black and decker probably about 35 years old. I repaired it once when I had to put a new brush holder in it but unfortunately I let the smoke out this time.

Their hand tools have come a long way as have their house brand pneumatic stuff. Let’s hope their power tools are nice enough for occasional home use. The reviews say its good and it was cheaper than the used dewalts I see on Facebook at the moment.
 
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Even as a guy who has a lot of their hand tools/jacks/etc., I have to admit I was highly skeptical of anything HF with a cord or a battery.

But I needed a new sliding compound miter and got the Hercules 12" and the stand, and have been extremely pleased with it. More recently I needed a jigsaw and a sander and wanted to go battery, but the Milwaukee stuff was just too damn expensive for tools I use only occasionally (but wasn't willing put up with junk either). I got Hercules 20v versions of both plus a battery and charger for less than either of the Milwaukee tools as a bare tool. I was prepared for a middling tool experience with both, but they both did great on that project, to the extent that I'd consider more Hercules tools...
 

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I don't get how smoking a black and decker twice cutting things you shouldn't makes a HF version make sense....
 

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I don't get how smoking a black and decker twice cutting things you shouldn't makes a HF version make sense....
Considering my experiences with Black & Decker 120v power tools, he's probably better off with the low-end Harbor Freight offerings.
They most certainly cannot be any worse than what Black & Decker has been cranking out for the last 30+ years. I fried my last B&D electric hand drill about 30 years ago. Toasted the circular saw re-roofing the house in Tillicum in the mid-80's. Fried at least half a dozen of their 120v 1/3 sheet oscillating pad sanders.
I own a few HF power tools: an oscillating "multi tool" that two of us have abused the hell out of replacing the south wall on this house, a reciprocating saw I use when I need to chop up large objects so they'll fit into the trash can (e.g., lawnmower decks, lawn chairs, etc.)
And there's something else out there I can't remember right now.... oh yeah... the cheapie angle-grinder that I've been just beating the hell out of for three years. My buddy borrowed the "Bauer" 1/2" drive impact gun a few days ago. I'm going to make him change out the shocks on the Ranger when he brings it back. Not sure what he's doing, but he will no doubt beat the **** out of it - in his world, tools are expendable objects meant to accomplish a task, not to be preserved into perpetuity.

I'm not a professional. I don't use power tools on a daily basis. In cases where you're buying a tool to perform one job, one time, it's difficult to rationalize paying premium price if you don't have to.

No apologies necessary.
 

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They’re corded tools are to be avoided?


Never got that memo, but if I did, I’d have the question the intelligence of the memos originator.

I buy their bolt assortments but most of the time they end up being too long

Outcomes the $18 cut off tool and take them down to the right length

Been doing it for years

Purchase their $230 Bauer demo hammer (now $300) it’s worth this weight gold which is good cause it’s pretty freaking heavy
 

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I needed a hammer drill a few years ago for just one task, so I wanted to go as cheaply as possible. HF had one on clearance for really cheap so I grabbed it.

Worked fine, and I've ended up using it more often than I thought.
 

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I needed a hammer drill a few years ago for just one task, so I wanted to go as cheaply as possible. HF had one on clearance for really cheap so I grabbed it.

Worked fine, and I've ended up using it more often than I thought.
This is why HF has been successful. Many people do not want or need a $300 dollar tool to do a $20 one time job. If a person really looks at frequency and the cost per use of a tool, it can reach the stupidity level on some brands and models. They likely get customers on the weekends when the rental places are closed.
I often tell younger newby DIY auto types about the tool loaner programs at the auto parts these days. No need to buy something you may only need once or twice in life.
 
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This is why HF has been successful. Many people do not want or need a $300 dollar tool to do a $20 one time job. If a person really looks at frequency and the cost per use of a tool, it can reach the stupidity level on some brands and models. They likely get customers on the weekends when the rental places are closed.
I often tell younger newby DIY auto types about the tool loaner programs at the auto parts these days. No need to buy something you may only need once or twice in life.
And for the REAL bargain shoppers HF always has a table full of discounted returned tools. I suspect ones that often enough were regarded as free rentals by their original purchaser.
I've had mixed results with HF power tools.
 

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And for the REAL bargain shoppers HF always has a table full of discounted returned tools...
Not by me. The sort of thing I'd expect to see on the HF clearance shelf here is a 3-pack of something, missing one tool and is MAYBE marked down 10% off retail. Even 33% off wouldn't be a deal when the tool you want the most is the missing one. Incomplete socket sets for $1 off, and other BS like that.
 

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In my part of the world (PA, USA), there has been a tidal shift in the way people look at Harbor Freight over the last 5 years.

It went from a place to that sells junk to get a project done, to an alternative place to buy decent tools and take the place of Sears/Craftsman.

I was raised as a 90's kid, indoctrinated in "USA made" by my engineer Father and purchased / inherited thousands of dollars of SO/Mac/Matco/Cornwell stuff that I still own. That said, I own just as much Quinn/Icon/KTC/Koken/Tone/Nepros/Vessel/Sunflag/PB Swiss these days, maybe more.

Agreed that HFT has had quality issues for decades...but people who say that everything they sell is junk are simply living in the past and can't bring themselves to acknowledge that its not like that anymore...and that's ok. I look forward to new tool releases from Icon/Hercules/Quinn just as much as any other mainline tool manufacture these days, my only gripe is that I wish more of the stuff was made in USA.
 

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Not by me. The sort of thing I'd expect to see on the HF clearance shelf here is a 3-pack of something, missing one tool and is MAYBE marked down 10% off retail. Even 33% off wouldn't be a deal when the tool you want the most is the missing one. Incomplete socket sets for $1 off, and other BS like that.

This matches my experience as well. I have a feeling a bunch of it is warranty stuff, that they're hoping to take more from. The only time any of it is even worth looking at is when they do the tent sales.
 

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Trying to think what else I have from there, with a cord

2 diff sizes angle grinders (at least one came with additional set of motor brushes).
A/C vacuum pump
Die grinder
Air compressor (does that count?)
MIG welder
Hammer drill
Multi tool

Maybe more, but all that stuff seems pretty solid and works just fine, same as similar items from other brands.

Only thing I think was a bit iffy, what the chain saw sharpener. I only tired it once, not realizing the chain was so wasted nothing left to sharpen. Maybe it would get the job done for others. I just put a new bar/chain on the saw.

I'm sure it was fine, but it creeped me out a bit that it uses a bicycle hand brake handle, to lock the chain in place. :lol: I still have buried somewhere, but I rarely use a chainsaw.
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I needed a hammer drill a few years ago for just one task, so I wanted to go as cheaply as possible. HF had one on clearance for really cheap so I grabbed it.

Worked fine, and I've ended up using it more often than I thought.
Same here. I needed a SDS hammer drill to drill 20 holes in concrete. I checked on renting one and a larger demolition drill fro HF was about $10 more. I bought the drill and two drill bits thinking that one of the Chinesium drill bits would not make it for twenty holes. I never used the second drill bit. I have loaned out the drill a few times and used it for other things around here and it keeps on ticking. I have no thoughts that is is equal to a Hilti, but a Hilti was 15 times the price.
 

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Click-bait!

I thought you were gonna say you applied to work there or something.
I applied once when I was more desperate to get out of my current line of work. The “one sided virtual interview“ was an instant no. It would be nice to get an employee discount on tub o towels and superlube grease though.
 
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willf650

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But how does it compare to a Snap-On hat?
Better because it’s easily accessible and affordable.

I‘m not a snap on fan boy simply because there tools aren’t accessible to me. I have a few of them but have only bought a pick set off a truck in 1992. The other stuff I have was either found or bought used. I work in an industrial environment so no tool trucks for me and honestly I’m more likely to loose something than break it so I don’t think I can justify the price if they were available.
 

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Not by me. The sort of thing I'd expect to see on the HF clearance shelf here is a 3-pack of something, missing one tool and is MAYBE marked down 10% off retail. Even 33% off wouldn't be a deal when the tool you want the most is the missing one. Incomplete socket sets for $1 off, and other BS like that.
My local store also has the incomplete sets of this and that, I suspect the result of warranty replacements and shoplifting. The discounting on these seems random, sometimes a laughable amount other times great value. Must be the manager's whim.
I made the free rental comment to one of the folks at my local store and they nodded in agreement. Perhaps your store doesn't tolerate this type of shenanigans. My store is usually anxious to get this stuff sold.
 

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In my part of the world (PA, USA), there has been a tidal shift in the way people look at Harbor Freight over the last 5 years.

It went from a place to that sells junk to get a project done, to an alternative place to buy decent tools and take the place of Sears/Craftsman.
I am one of those !

I started collecting tools in 1968 ! All Craftsman. So I need next to nothing. (Of course I want several things !) You can't beat HF on "small" items. Trailer hitch balls, receiver tow hook, garden hose nozzle (get the old fashion twist one, it will last you a lifetime), bungee cords, etc. Their 1" ratchet straps (4 pack) are incredibly cheap when on sale !
 

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The only time any of it is even worth looking at is when they do the tent sales.
Your tool snobbery is mis-placed. Their current business model is very successful. Yes they helped to cause the downfall of Sears Craftsman brick/mortar stores.

I have been buying various USA-made brands since the 1960's, my first quality socket set was a Wright 3/8" drive metric socket set branded as Montgomery Wards Powr-Kraft, w/the 'Tootsie-Roll' rubber-covered ratchet.

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I asked for a metric socket set to fix our '62 VW Beetle cabriolet my parents bought new, about 1966. One of my older brothers stuffed the front end into a curb on a wintry WNY evening, when the local roads were icy-slick. It was my intro into trying to fix things on my own.

Since then, my tool purchases have been almost exclusively USA-manufactured tools, both power and hand tools. I think sometime last century I bought a Chicago Electric orange plastic-case/alloy headed side-grinder, and it's still going.

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I bought a rotary demo hammer-drill in SDS-Max size, and it has done a number of jobs easily well-beyond its 'pay-back' time. The set of carbide drill bits and the accessory bits (chisel, spade, needle) have given reliable service on any number of jobs. I'm a retired guy in the garage, and I don't work outside of the house for anyone.

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I bought a Hercules porta-bandsaw and the combination horizontal and vertical stand for it. It works well, and I've used it a number of times. I built a 2x4 stand for it, and the bandsaw does what it's supposed to do.

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If I have something heavier to cut I have a Delta floor-model metal-cutting bandsaw.

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It's OK to express your opinion, of course, I expect that there are more people on-here who have found many useful, reasonably-priced tools at a HFT that make sense during these times of increasing prices and a need to accomplish things with an eye on the 'bang for the buck' tool acquisition. I shall continue to purchase a combination of USA-made and offshore tools, which has worked well for me, and I suspect, many of our dear readers.

Bonus description: my Vulcan multi-process 12//240V welder was bought with my HFT class-action lawsuit refund. I'm no expert in welding but being able to learn MIG/TIG/stick/wire-feed is something I've wanted to do for years. And now HFT has a versatile tool helping me to do that.

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A good use for crummy bedframe steel, making a crawl-space door. Yes and on a HFT folding welding table.

A professional welder found the HFT multi-process welder did well in the task at hand, adding new motor mounts and a tubular transmission mount to a Tri-Five chassis.

At first, he was skeptical about the HFT 'orange box', being used to 'red' or 'blue' box brands, but after a bit of experimentation welding some #5 re-bar to a piece of U-channel steel, he went to work.

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When he was done with the tasks for the day, he said, "it worked well, better than I thought it would, I would use it again with no worries about its performance."

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