Difference between Ingersoll Rand TS4N5 and 2340N5?

[bmwpower]

This question has always bugged me.

Both seem to be close in specs and price. The pumps are obviously different, but how different? Which one is better? It seems like if an online dealer sells IR, they sell either one model line or the other. For example, Northern Tool only sells the 2340, while someone like Tractor Supply only sells the TS4N5.


Note: the pictures might not be of the exact model but clearly show the physical difference between the models.

TS4N5 - http://www.irtools.com/IS/product.asp-en-3082

2340N5 - http://air.irco.com/IS/product.asp-en-12878

 

[1320stang]

The TS4N5 puts out 15.5 ACFM @ 175 PSI whereas the 2340N5 only puts out 14.7 ACFM @ 175 PSI.

 

[1320stang]

Neither match your garage BTW. ;D

 

[bmwpower]

Neither match your garage BTW. ;D

Nothing a gallon of Lista paint won't fix...

 

[bmwpower]

The TS4N5 puts out 15.5 ACFM @ 175 PSI whereas the 2340N5 only puts out 14.7 ACFM @ 175 PSI.

Right, the pumps are different so different CFM. Just doesn't make sense why IR would have 2 similar compressors at the same price point.

 

[1320stang]

Priced relatively the same? Dunno...

I do like the first one though, looks like the filter is pipe thread, easy to take the intake somewhere else. My Delta has a plastic filter, I have to make an adapter to bolt on to be able to go to pipe.

 

[brownbagg]

alot of company will get a name brand item that only that store will have the model number. lowes, HD circuit city does this. Then they can claim lowest price in town, because nobody else sells that model number. the two units are proberly the same unit with just the data plate different.

 

[PAToyota]

Top one is obviously single stage and the bottom one is two stage...

 

[ron in sc]

That first one says, ... Fully Packaged includes an air-cooled aftercooler, auto tank drain and low oil level shutdown switch...

Personally I would pass on the fully packaged business and get the more durable model, if you can determine that. Also the second one has an electric motor that has the profile or maybe a Baldor or Leeson. I can not tell what brand of motor the first on has.

 

[bmwpower]

Top one is obviously single stage and the bottom one is two stage...

Nope. They're both 2 stage.

 

[bmwpower]

That first one says, ... Fully Packaged includes an air-cooled aftercooler, auto tank drain and low oil level shutdown switch...

Personally I would pass on the fully packaged business and get the more durable model, if you can determine that. Also the second one has an electric motor that has the profile or maybe a Baldor or Leeson. I can not tell what brand of motor the first on has.

I'm talking standard package compressors. The web page says that, and the fully packaged models are available for most model lines, but I'm just comparing the 2 above.

Again, the pictures are not of the exact model, just a model of that series, ie the motors will be different. Judging from the JPG filename, I believe the upper picture has a 7.5 HP motor on it. Not sure of the brand.

 

[Charles (in GA)]

After going back and forth between them, I really cannot see any major difference in the specs. They even both weigh the same, 475 lbs. Both are two stage, In the 5 hp version, the V-twin pump does not have a sight glass, apparently the other one does. Both are all cast iron, both appear to use the same mag starter and pressure switch, gauge, and tank. Both are splash lubed.

I have always found it odd that some compressor manufacturers, like IR, use (for the 5 hp units) 1/2 pipe thread outlets on the tanks, (I think Champion does too) while others use 3/4 pipe for the outlet.

One is in the Tools and Equipment line, while the other is in the Air Products line, but I really don't see any differences that point to one over the other. It would be interesting to see the designed life of each unit. My compressor has a 15,000 hr designed pump life, somehow I doubt it will ever run up anywhere near that kind of time.

Charles

 

[bmwpower]

Found the exploded parts diagram for the TS model pump (on the TS model compressor):

http://www.irservicenet.com//filestorage/SCD-942_.pdf



Found the exploded parts diagram for the T30 pump (on the 2340 model compressor):

http://www.irservicenet.com//filestorage/SCD-749_.pdf


I see 2 piece connecting rods on the TS pump and 1 piece rods on the other. Advantages? I dunno...

 

[PAToyota]

Nope. They're both 2 stage.

I stand corrected - didn't have time to look at the specs and went from the pictures...

 

[Charles (in GA)]

I stand corrected - didn't have time to look at the specs and went from the pictures...

Actually I didn't see it at all in the specs for the first unit, but it was "175 PSI maximum operating pressure" and that it had a "High efficiency intercooler", both dead giveaways of a two stage compressor.

Charles

 

[W-Cummins]

I see 2 piece connecting rods on the TS pump and 1 piece rods on the other. Advantages? I dunno...

I knew there was some thing about that pump I didn't like. I would not have the one piece rods. It also appears that that crank is hung on one end only!

William

 

[bmwpower]

More research...

TS4N5 pump runs at 1375 RPM....

Looking more and more like I should go Quincy...

 

[Ford GP]

Just doing a little searching and found one place offering the the 2340N5 as interchangeable withe the TS4N5 (maybe TS=Tractor Supply??). So maybe the post about just being made for that retailer is right.

 

[Uncle Dave]

If you have a choise and can afford it by all means go with the Quincy. Your grandchildren will be able to use it thirty years from now. U.D.

 

[ricleh]

IR T30 type compressors are used commercially all over the world. They are excellent compressors. I have the 7.5HP model of that compressor and I am sure it will last out my lifetime with no problems. I bought it used from a auto repair business.

Rick

 

[bmwpower]

Update.... Just to let you know, I went with a Quincy...A used Quincy pump and a IR tank. Kinda put it together myself, but it works fine so far!

 

[GearBeer]

More research...

TS4N5 pump runs at 1375 RPM....

Looking more and more like I should go Quincy...

Apologies for the necrothread.

I'm looking at a TS4N5 and I'm a little confused. I thought slower pumps were better (quiter and more reliable)?

 

[bmwpower]

Apologies for the necrothread.

I'm looking at a TS4N5 and I'm a little confused. I thought slower pumps were better (quiter and more reliable)?

That was likely the motor speed...maybe. (edit) saw pict above.

But, yea, slower is better, but you still want CFM, so a pump that puts out more CFM/rev is better.

What you said above it right.

Which is partly why Quincy's are better, IMHO.

 

[hetkind]

I have been using a IR 2430 220v single phase compressor for the last six years, now in it's third location, and here to stay. It now shares a special room with the electrical switch gear, computer servers and utilty inlets...and for the first time, wire to code by a electrcian

I change the oil yearly, blowdown the condensate at least weekly, and the only repair part has been a check valve.

Howard