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bobj49f2

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I bought this unit maybe ten years ago, used it maybe six years and then moved and had it sitting on my desk drawer until now. First thing we did is update to latest version of firmware. If this isn't going to do what I want I'll just have to get a switch. I don't want to spend any money if I don't have to.
 
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bobj49f2

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So far the internet seems to be working a lot better with my phone. I've been playing music via blue tooth without the signal dropping out like before when I was depending the signal from the house. I even was able to bring the ATT unit back into the house, not between the two windows.
 

SGKent

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We found that they worked, it was just that the Internet was slower than it could be. The choke point turned out to be the old Linksys and not the modem or ISP.

A switch would be just for cat5 or cat6. For the phone you want 2.4 (older devices) and 5G wifi. My understanding is that you have already run a cat 5e or cat6 cable between one of the LAN ports on the ATT modem/router combo to the garage. That got your full network speed to the garage. cat5e or cat6 is generally good for up to 300' +/-. What you need really is wifi in the garage, and the ability to add more cat5e or cat6 cables there to any computers you put out there. Let me see if that router has an access point only mode which will remove the router and any slowdowns. What happens is that the router has to change the address on everything coming in from the old network to the new network. Imagine if your mail carrier had readdress everything sent to you because you changed you house number before he/she could put it in the mailbox. Then change the from address too on everything sent out. Most of the data (TCP) that gets sent has a header in it, and the data. As that data is sent the device receiving it has to acknowledge every packet of data or the sending device sends it again, assuming it has been lost in transit. The translation to another network in both directions slows things. When you are getting something that streams - it usually uses UDP. That protocol does not rely on a return from the device saying I got it. So if a packet gets lost the device simply skips over it. That is Ok for music or streaming, but in a file that relies on it being perfect it has to use TCP to be sure all the packets are received. Ever go to a webpage that is slow and times out? The packets get lost or corrupted on the way so eventually the receiving computer says I'm done waiting.
 

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There are a couple articles written in 2006 and 2007, essentially the same instructions, that give a how to use the current Linksys as an access point. Reading them it is a work around and I don't see much gain over what you have now. The wifi ends up on its own network and the lan ports end up the same as the other computers in the house. It's clunky and management wise hard to manage if something goes down. I would say when you get ready to transfer files between the house and the garage, use a USB stick until we can find you an inexpensive simple access point that doesn't require a lot of configuration, is easy to place, and is reliable.
 

Vintage Veloce

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Network engineer here. Run a cable, or forever struggle. Really, a little pain of a trench and some connectors will insure PERFECT internet in the garage. NOTHING else will.
 
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Network engineer here. Run a cable, or forever struggle. Really, a little pain of a trench and some connectors will insure PERFECT internet in the garage. NOTHING else will.

He ran a cable back on April 6.

I bought a premade 100' Cat6 cable from Menards and pulled it through the conduit the previous owner had running from the house to the pole building.
 
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andyvh1959

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I will soon be digging the trench for the service entrance cable from the meter on the back of the house 30' to my detached shop garage build project. Based on what I see here its best for me to also run a cable in the conduit and into the house at the meter base. I also plan to move an older 42" LCD flat screen to my shop (gotta watch those Packers games).

I already have a shop stereo running, using my old Samsung Note2 as my pickup for Pandora. So given all that sounds like I should run a cat5e or cat6 cable in the entrace cable conduit to the shop garage.
 

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I will soon be digging the trench for the service entrance cable from the meter on the back of the house 30' to my detached shop garage build project. Based on what I see here its best for me to also run a cable in the conduit and into the house at the meter base. I also plan to move an older 42" LCD flat screen to my shop (gotta watch those Packers games).

I already have a shop stereo running, using my old Samsung Note2 as my pickup for Pandora. So given all that sounds like I should run a cat5e or cat6 cable in the entrace cable conduit to the shop garage.

My garage is 50' from the router.

I use "powerline networking adapter" to bring WiFi to the garage. Not as fast as running direct cables, but fast enough for my security camera, and youtube.
 

Vintage Veloce

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Run two cables, and if you can afford it, drop in two fiber optic cables as well for the future.
In my garage, I ended up using the second cable for a NAS server I placed in the garage so that it has its own direct run to the primary router in the house.
It is always best to run a cable! Really.


I will soon be digging the trench
for the service entrance cable from the meter on the back of the house 30' to my detached shop garage build project. Based on what I see here its best for me to also run a cable in the conduit and into the house at the meter base. I also plan to move an older 42" LCD flat screen to my shop (gotta watch those Packers games).

I already have a shop stereo running, using my old Samsung Note2 as my pickup for Pandora. So given all that sounds like I should run a cat5e or cat6 cable in the entrace cable conduit to the shop garage.
 
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