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Digital Multi Meter - what do you like?

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I use mainly fluke at work, a 77. Used them in school too. They are the best meters out there IMO.

I have both the HF meters for around the house (one was obviously free and the other was practically free too), and they are OK for voltage and continuity testing on 12V to 110V. Outside of that I don't trust them and bring my Fluke home.

If that's all your doing, and you use it maybe once a month, you could be fine with a cheapy.

If you're going to spend money on a cheapy, I like this one for automotive stuff. Cheap enough I don't care if it gets damaged, lost or broken. Small enough for one handed use, even comes with a case.

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Rebranding is rampant with this stuff. They probably are very similar. I have used Fluke 87's at work. I have a Tektronix TX3 that was later rebranded as a Fluke when they bought Tektronix. It is 4.5 digit, .05% accurate on DC, came with a NIST traceability certificate and has almost every bell and whistle. As often as not I grab one of those HF freebees that are laying around the house. The DC accuracy is good and you don't need much for a continuity check. The leads are garbage but you can get a good set on eBay for two bucks. You can get a nice booted one with auto ranging for cheap. For garage work, super precision is not required. For home use you are not likely to wear anything out. I would go for a better HF or a Sears or something around $30-50 bucks. Check ebay it will come right to your door, direct from Hong Kong or mainland China.They are all made there, anyway
 

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No love for ESI (Electronic Specialties Inc.)? Worth checking out and used to be a favored brand here.
 

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Eico? You go way back. That was a kit company that operated from NYC. They moved several times. I think Elenco was descended from them. Remember Paco, the kit division of Precision instrument? Did Eico make anything but VTVM's? They were all Heathkit wanna be's
 

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Eico? You go way back. That was a kit company that operated from NYC. They moved several times. I think Elenco was descended from them. Remember Paco, the kit division of Precision instrument? Did Eico make anything but VTVM's? They were all Heathkit wanna be's

Eico had almost as many different products as Heath did. They sold kits as well as assembled units. Allied Radio carried Eico products in their catalog for many years.
 

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Just posting for the sake of the OP having as much info as possible to make a decision.

I used an analog Cman meter from the time I could drive until I bought a digital Greenlee for electronic work with the Cman as a backup.

After a few years I got a new Fluke 115 for a little over $100 and added the alligator clamps to the leads- it's performed flawlessly and doesn't eat batteries.

I repair electronics, use it for my home, vehicles and will never need another.

The Fluke 115 is also notably faster than the non-auto ranging Greenlee.
 
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This is a bit of a risk ("untested" and an ebay seller so buyer beware) but $15 with shipping for a Fluke 27FM without leads (spend another $10-20 to get a decent set) and you have a really nice meter for not too much money.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/302134020629
 

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My entire life I wanted to get a good multi meter so finally @ 56 y/o I bought a used Fluke 87v in great shape for $200 from a coworker, this is overkill for most things I will ever do but so is a tool box with over 50 screw drivers too... YMMV!
 

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Someday I'd like to get a Fluke, but for now I have a cheap Craftsman meter in my garage, and a Southwire meter in my electrical bag. Not a big fan of Southwire tools, but I got that one cheap when I worked at Lowes.
 

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Bought a Fluke 77 in college 32 years ago, and it's still a great meter. Bought an 87 on a Zoro deal a while back which makes some additional measurements possible. The HP/Agilent/Keysight meters are also very good. I've got an HP bench meter from eBay that's amazing.

For low voltage stuff the HF and Extech is OK, but they are marginal for house wiring and you definitely don't want to use them inside your main breaker panel.

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Eico had almost as many different products as Heath did. They sold kits as well as assembled units. Allied Radio carried Eico products in their catalog for many years.
Allied also had their own brand called Knight kits. As a kid I built their 10 watt mono amp. Pretty chrome chassis, 6L6s 12AX7s. I remember Eico making test equipment and power supplies. Heath also had color TVs with the more complicated stuff already pre wired in pc boards, hi fi stuff and weather stations. I think there is an Eico scope in the basement somewhere. There were a lot of smaller players. I made a scope kit by Precise. A local electronics chain, Lafayette Radio had kits and I built their AM-FM tuner. This was tube stuff.

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I have a Craftsman 82344 at home. It does everything I need it to do. I can't justify a Fluke 87v for home use.
 

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I am in the market for a Digital Multi Meter (DVM).

I have read very good reviews on this one sold at HF.
http://www.harborfreight.com/5-in-1-digital-multimeter-98674.html

However, I don't want to spend that much. It frustrates me that a few years ago you could have picked it up for about $20 less.

I will mostly use it for Automotive and Appliance repair. I see having a thermo couple input as a bonus and not a requirement.

I have gone through some cheap ones and some mid range ones. Eventually they don't work or become inaccurate and make using them a chore.
I want something that will be reliable, robust and easy to use.

What have you guys used and liked?

Most of HF stuff is manufactured by Mastech. Usually pretty shoddy built quality and not worth the price, but crammed with features to try to make up for it.

No love for ESI (Electronic Specialties Inc.)? Worth checking out and used to be a favored brand here.

ESI doesn't make anything. They just rebadge meters from random Chinese companies. For example:

ESI 380 is a rebadged 830 model (made by a crazy number of manufacturers, no telling exactly who makes it). This is like the chocolate chip cookie of multimeters. There are a million makers who all make it and they vary in quality but pretty much none are outstanding.

ESI 597 looks like a rebadged Uni-T

I recognize most of the others are common Chinese manufacturers with slight decorative tweaks, but don't feel like tracking down the specific models.

Fluke is generally quite good but quite expensive.

Shockwave, the 87 and 88 are very similar but I prefer the 87. The 88 has a few features such as reporting frequency as an RPM reading vs Hz, the 88 defaults to the 60V DC range because that's the best range for 12V signals. The 87 defaults to auto-ranging. Basically any measurement you can take with an 88 can be made with the 87 if you do some math. I think the 88 is often packaged with the accessory leads that are more useful for automotive work.

Personally I would rather have an 87 because it's a better universal meter.

Completely agree. The 87-V is a very good all around meter with an excellent track record of maintaining performance. The phone interference issues are overblown, they only apply to specific board revisions. If you do have a meter that has this issue, contact Fluke and they will replace the board with a newer revision at no cost (be prepared to show that it has this issue). They will also recalibrate your meter (with NIST cert) for free as part of that process.

For the OP's $50 the Fluke 101 is about the only Fluke option. It's high quality but very limited in functions. If the OP is willing to search ebay I would suggest an older Fluke like a 73-iii (the last generation of the box model) or a 73-4 (or 77-4 or 23-4), the family of swoopy ones. The Fluke 25/27/8025A/B are also very good options. The reason why I like the older meters is they have "touch-hold" while the newer, low end Flukes don't. Touch-hold is a super useful feature. Turn it on, then touch the probes to what ever you are measuring. The meter beeps, you can now remove the probes and look at the reading. This lets you keep your eyes on the probes when getting a reading. Most "hold" features just freeze the display the moment the button is pressed.

The Fluke 25/27/8025 can be a great value. These are the old military model. Super durable (and big). They have the touch hold and often can be had for under $50 off ebay.

Also agree here for the most part. Though I would mention the former military surplus 27/FM is a dramatically better meter than the 27. If the choice comes down to the two, I would take the 27/FM every time. Too bad OP isn't looking a couple of years ago when the government cleared out THOUSANDS of these meters. You could get them for $20 NOS never used in a case with a 40KV high voltage probe on eBay. No chance of that now, it was a ridiculous deal. I would add the Amprobe AM-510 to your list of Flukes at this price range (Amprobe is a Fluke subsidiary). It is UL-listed, has a lot of features and is well made. It only costs $50 which makes it one of my favorite meters at this price point.

Greenlee's DM200, DM210, DM810, DM820 are also great options and can be found on ebay in the ~$50 range if you wait around. The 210 and 820 can read themocouples. All are rugged (the DM200 family is also sold as a Matco meter) and well made. The OEM for those meters is Brymen. I think they are to Fluke what Gearwrench is to Snap-On. Perhaps not "the best" but often so good for the money we just don't care.

Brymen makes some very solid quality stuff. They have some UL-Listed CAT IV 1kV meters, something that almost no other manufacturers offer. Some of the safest meters on the market. A better comparison would be Snap-on to Matco or something like that. Fluke hasn't been innovating as of recent (Danaher has a tendency to do that to their subsidiaries). I hope that now that Fluke is independent again we will see them start to innovate. The BM869S (Greenlee DM-860A) is a killer meter that goes toe to toe with the Fluke 289 but at around 1/3 the price. In general, Brymen and Keysight (formerly HP and Agilent) are on par with Fluke or close to it. Others that can be just as good as Fluke are Gossen (European brand, their 30S is insane with an insane price), Yokagawa, Hioki, etc.

I'm not as familiar with it but Kline's 1000 and 2000 meters seem to be on ebay a lot for under $50 in great condition. Probably a good buy.
Klein is hit or miss, their lowest level stuff is made by Mastech. I think the 1000 and 2000 are the mid-range which is made by Fine Instruments out of Korea. This is the same company that makes TPI multimeters, Snap-On multimeters and of course BluePoint multimeters. They also rebrand for a few other companies. The quality is pretty good, but not up to Fluke level. The high-end Klein meters are made in the USA (not sure if by Klein or whom) and are VERY good quality.

Finally, Southwire isn't a bad option. Southwire's stuff is made by the same OEM as the newest "better" Craftsman and Extech meters. A Southwire with temp function can be frequently had for under $50 in near new condition on ebay. Not bad for the money but I have found the meters a bit slow to auto range and slow to buzz for continuity.

Yep, these are all CEM China made meters. Oddly enough, Extech is the worst quality of the bunch (horrible DOA rates, indicate they are scrimping on QA/QC). I would agree with calling them not bad and all of your points about their performance.

Lastly, I would avoid the FLuke 11x series of meters entirely. Fluke recently cut the warranty to 3yrs (from the previous 10 yrs). Additionally, they are very precisely designed to lack certain features to prevent them from stealing sales from the more expensive meters. They are manufactured in China by Uni-T, not the USA, though they are Fluke USA designs. The general quality is significantly lower than Flukes USA made meters. At that price point I would be drawn more to the Brymen BM257S or BM235 which are dramatically more well featured and better performing meters for the price.
 
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Brymen makes some very solid quality stuff. They have some UL-Listed CAT IV 1kV meters, something that almost no other manufacturers offer. Some of the safest meters on the market. A better comparison would be Snap-on to Matco or something like that. Fluke hasn't been innovating as of recent (Danaher has a tendency to do that to their subsidiaries). I hope that now that Fluke is independent again we will see them start to innovate. The BM869S (Greenlee DM-860A) is a killer meter that goes toe to toe with the Fluke 289 but at around 1/3 the price. In general, Brymen and Keysight (formerly HP and Agilent) are on par with Fluke or close to it. Others that can be just as good as Fluke are Gossen (European brand, their 30S is insane with an insane price), Yokagawa, Hioki, etc.

Agree 100% on the Brymen meters. I bought a Brymen BM867s last year to replace my Fluke 83.
 

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I have older Flukes, an 8020B, and an 8050B bench meter. Both are in good shape. The 8050B is ex-military.
 

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I have a Klein MM1000, I use it mostly for automotive work. FWIW I'm not a professional. :lol:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-Digital-Multi-Meter-MM1000/202521270

I have the MM2000 4 years ago when my Fluke 73 died after 15 years of almost daily use. I bought it as a temporary solution until I could buy another fluke. I never bought that Fluke. In fact I then bought the Klein CL2000 AC/DC clamp meter. Both have been great with no issues. They are great meters for the money.
 
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Agree 100% on the Brymen meters. I bought a Brymen BM867s last year to replace my Fluke 83.

I've never had a "Brymen" meter but I've had 2 Amprobes and 2 Greenlees that were Brymens. The Amprobes (AM-270 and an AM-someting that looked the same) are both great meters. The 270 used to be $90 on Amazon and was a heck of a great value, nearly as nice as a Fluke 87-5 but for under $100. However, the housing wasn't as nice as the Fluke or most Brymen rebadge meters. The Greenlee DM-200A and DM-820A are exactly the same housings as the Brymen meters. Only colors and some features are different. I got the 200A for almost free and liked it a lot. Ended up giving it to my Dad. The 820A is my current go to meter. I bought it used for $50. Because it's beat up I don't worry about abuse. My Fluke 187 is "better" but I keep it on the electronics bench, not out in the dirt.

If Brymen had a touch hold function I would have a really hard time ever suggesting a Fluke over the Brymen. Fluke would still be my favorite but not for 2x the money.
 

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My 28 year old Hioki is still my go-to meter. Got a ~ 10 year old Amprobe 220 and I lost confidence in it pretty soon. It has more features than the old simple Hioki, but It's given me false low current readings and sometimes the probes seem to loose connection or the selector switch. Honestly I wouldn't mind if someone drove over it with a bulldozer.

Your budget is $50 in G.J terms that really means $100-150. :evil:
I would take a close look at Fluke, Hioki and possibly Brymen offerings in this price range. I would lean towards Hioki since they do have "made in Japan" meters in this price range.
 
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I was just looking on eBay and saw a new Fluke 15 for $90.

I also saw one for less but it was shipping from China. What are the odds that it is a counterfeit?
Are Flukes now made in China?
 

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I was just looking on eBay and saw a new Fluke 15 for $90.

I also saw one for less but it was shipping from China. What are the odds that it is a counterfeit?
Are Flukes now made in China?
Yes Indeed, just at the lowest range of their DMM's. Some models selling for around 100 or less are sold for the Asia market only, E.g. outside of authorized Fluke dealers. No counterfeits are involved but there is No support or warrantee coverage in USA. As they say 'buyer beware'.
Like every global tool maker / seller they must import to stay relevant in todays economy.
You are paying a premium for the name brand, so at their low end models you are losing many features /specs ( crippled ) to get you back into the higher end models.
 
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I'm looking to get a meter for auto work, but one function I really want is a tachometer. The only meter I have found that has an "RPM" setting is Innova 3340. Are there any others? Thanks.
 

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Yes, I just got the weekly ad from a local auto tool distributor called Eppys. They are on line and there was a multimeter that came with an inductive clamp for the tach function as well as the other leads. It was on sale for $44. They run it like a member club but they sell to anyone for a slightly higher price. I am sure you can find their site. They have a store in Brooklyn, NY and another in Howell, NJ. and are on line as well. I think they also sell on eBay

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I'm looking to get a meter for auto work, but one function I really want is a tachometer. The only meter I have found that has an "RPM" setting is Innova 3340. Are there any others? Thanks.

The Uni Trend UT100 series of meters all have the tach and dwell feature

http://www.uni-trend.com/productsca...=897&CateID=897&CurrCateID=897&showCateID=897


But none come with the pick up clamp like the Innova you've referenced.

Just looked around and you can find them all listed on Amazon
 

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I have no useful insight other than to say i have one of the lower end Milwaukee clamp meters. I do light electrical troubleshooting on dock equipment and it works good.
 

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I have the meter linked in the OP. I bought it back in 2012 when it was only 39.99.

I set it up next to a Fluke on the same battery, they read within .01 of a volt of each other. It also has a backlight and peak hold functions, which are nice.

One day after using it, I set it on the tire of my truck and forgot about it. I unknowingly ran it over and pushed it into the dirt. It still works, although a couple of modes have quit, thankfully ones I never use.

I also have a General that I can pair with my phone and view the display. You can hook up the meter, walk away, flip a breaker or do what you need to do and still read the display from a distance.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FHQ3V8O/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I have not seen the need for an expensive meter in my use. I appreciate a high end tool, but only ones I can justify.
 

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You can find a vintage Fluke 77 on eBay for <$40. I have had mine for 30 years, built like a rock and the rubber case protects it.
 

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I like flukes, I have one at work that I've dropped from a pole and it still works fine.

IMO a meter is almost worthless without a set of leads with clips on them. Sometimes I use a combination of clip and probe leads.
 

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