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Bruce Amacker

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Wow, what can I say. I spent thousands there when I had the truck shop, but now I'm semi-retired and don't use/need much. I still have several stacks of their pull-out tray assortments of nuts, bolts, you name it, probably 40+ of them. I needed to fill up the flat washer trays and some other misc bolts so I called the local store, or what's left as the local store. (Strongsville closed a few years ago, then Middleburg, then Brunswick, leaving Medina closest) After listening to a 30 second recording telling me that if I didn't have an account (I do) their minimum charge is $50. No biggie, I plan to spend more than that. I finally talk to a sales person when basically tells me they closed my account due to inactivity (it's been 2+ years) and if I want anything to order it online. I don't like their website (I've used it before) and want service where I can walk in and get my trays filled up.

After listening to this I started to tell him how disappointed I was after spending considerable amounts of money with them in the past. The SOB hung up on me! I went to True Value hardware and dropped over $400 filling my trays. F*** Fastenal!
 
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Junkman

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I have found that McMaster Carr has good quality and the prices are not the least expensive, but you get what you pay for. I used to spend a lot at Fastenal until they closed the local store. The best deal that I got from them was some 50 or so blue tray boxes that were returned when a customer went to a new supplier. I paid $5 each for them, and $20 each for 4 40 or 50-hole pigeon-hole bolt cabinets.
 

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I've done a couple of projects using a bunch of Unistrut and I bought the first bunch at Fastenal, right at the edge of our town about 2 miles from my house and shop. A year or so later I went back and they gave me a hard time about having an account, so I called my son and got his account info--but the Unistrut was over twice what it had been before. I ended up driving 20 miles to the nearest Menards and getting it for less than half the Fastenal price. Basically saved hundreds of dollars for a couple of hours going to Menards.
 

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The local one here totally closed the storefront so you can't even walk in a buy anything. ***** because I get a discount cheaper than employee pricing.
 

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We had a Fastenal rep that would come through the shop at the day job always saying we got what you need and you shouldn't buy from anyone else. After many attempts to make a purchase and them saying we would have to order it I told him the last time he came in to GTFO and don't return. All of the local vendors I deal with have it when your company doesn't and can get it faster if they don't.
 

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I had a Fastenal account back in California when I had the tool truck 5 years ago. Two weeks ago I came across a Fastenal store I didn't know was here. Got all excited, walked up to the door and it was locked. Girl came to the door and told me they're no longer open to the public, commercial accounts only. I told her I had an account in Ca., and she said if it was inactive for a year it was closed. I would have to apply for another account, had to have a brick & morter business, no home based business and it would have to be physically verified, in other words inspected by Fastenal. Screw em. I always thought they were overpriced anyway.
 

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Never used them. The few things I looked up weren't competitive.
 

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I used Fastenal as my source of last resort. Then they became walk-in customer unfriendly.

We had a store here, Shamrock Fastener, that had very competitive prices. Then that store closed. Now I use Atwood's, the local farm and ranch store, for the run of the mill stuff.
 

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I guarantee they aren't missing your purchase. As a stockholder (and former employee) IDGAF either. You are going to an industrial storefront and expecting customer service from the 1950s. it doesn't work that way anymore.

Your big purchases in the past have zero bearing on the salesman's commission/bonus today. If you need $100 worth of nuts and bolts, head on down to Ace if you insist in shopping in person. Personally I'd just order it online and have exactly what I need shipped to my door like everything else and not waste their time or mine (and then hop online to rant about it).

I think there are some kids on your lawn you should be yelling at.
 

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I guarantee they aren't missing your purchase. As a stockholder (and former employee) IDGAF either. You are going to an industrial storefront and expecting customer service from the 1950s. it doesn't work that way anymore.

Your big purchases in the past have zero bearing on the salesman's commission/bonus today. If you need $100 worth of nuts and bolts, head on down to Ace if you insist in shopping in person. Personally I'd just order it online and have exactly what I need shipped to my door like everything else and not waste their time or mine (and then hop online to rant about it).

I think there are some kids on your lawn you should be yelling at.
Okay.
 

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I guarantee they aren't missing your purchase. As a stockholder (and former employee) IDGAF either. You are going to an industrial storefront and expecting customer service from the 1950s. it doesn't work that way anymore.

Your big purchases in the past have zero bearing on the salesman's commission/bonus today. If you need $100 worth of nuts and bolts, head on down to Ace if you insist in shopping in person. Personally I'd just order it online and have exactly what I need shipped to my door like everything else and not waste their time or mine (and then hop online to rant about it).

I think there are some kids on your lawn you should be yelling at.
And when everything is online and you can't buy anything local(home inprovement, auto parts stores)when you need it that day, but get to wait a minimum of one but more like two to three IF things go well. Don't come complaining
 

dchawk81

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And when everything is online and you can't buy anything local(home inprovement, auto parts stores)when you need it that day, but get to wait a minimum of one but more like two to three IF things go well. Don't come complaining
Yeah I mean I shop online too but a B&M business being arrogant about who they sell to is ridiculous.

I can't see that lasting forever. It'll trickle down to not buying from them online either eventually.

Hope they do a fantastic B2B to compensate.
 

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I guarantee they aren't missing your purchase. As a stockholder (and former employee) IDGAF either. You are going to an industrial storefront and expecting customer service from the 1950s. it doesn't work that way anymore.

Your big purchases in the past have zero bearing on the salesman's commission/bonus today. If you need $100 worth of nuts and bolts, head on down to Ace if you insist in shopping in person. Personally I'd just order it online and have exactly what I need shipped to my door like everything else and not waste their time or mine (and then hop online to rant about it).

I think there are some kids on your lawn you should be yelling at.
Just a guess, but if THIS ^^ is their typical business attitude, no wonder so many are closing. "Hey, don't waste my time" Wow.
 

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Not sure how this place is still in business. I used to shop there years ago, but even then they wouldn't have what I needed in stock often, or acted like they didn't want/need my business. Their prices were always high as well. I found a local fastener supplier that has 95% of what I need, and I usually order from mcmaster for that last oddball 5%
 

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Similar experience with Fastenal here. We have one just a few blocks away from us at work and up until about last year or so we were spending several thousand a month in consumables, heat shrink, drill bits, etc. however, their pricing started going up so we started using McMaster Carr more and more at work and Fastenal less and less.

For my home shop, I used to be able to go in and buy a few items here and there as needed and they would be very accomodating. However, that has all changed. They will no longer sell single fasteners nor deal in cash and all orders must be over $50. What's worse is they won't give me the same corporate pricing any longer which was the same price as what they charged us at work.

I now use McMaster Carr for most things but I have a very nice Bolt & Nut Supply house a few miles away from home that is more than willing to sell me a single bolt or a box of them and they are much better priced than Fastenal ever was so the hell with Fastenal.
 

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They are going down a slippery slope. Corporate accounts are their bread and butter. During COVID, the storefront was closed and....Made even more money.
So board room bean counters see the future, SMH.

Current employee FYI
 

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They are going down a slippery slope. Corporate accounts are their bread and butter. During COVID, the storefront was closed and....Made even more money.
So board room bean counters see the future, SMH.

Current employee FYI

No offense to you but and although our corporate account was only spending a few thousand a month, it won't be buttering any of the Fastenal bread any longer.
 

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No offense to you but and although our corporate account was only spending a few thousand a month, it won't be buttering any of the Fastenal bread any longer.
The SMH at the end of his first paragraph indicates he doesn't think it's smart long term either.

Our local KFC hasn't reopened the dining area since COVID either though. Citing remodeling. I doubt they'll ever open it again if the drive thru pumps enough revenue through. It's definitely cheaper to operate that way.

Probably similar motivation for the appointment only at Fastenal. Minimum order to make it worth sending someone out there.

I mean I get it but I still think it'll eventually backfire. Maybe. Then again Amazon does fine. Lol.
 
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Just a guess, but if THIS ^^ is their typical business attitude, no wonder so many are closing. "Hey, don't waste my time" Wow.
What was the Ben Franklin quote … or one of those old dudes … watch your pennies and the dollars will take care of themselves. So apparently fastenal doesn’t want pennies.
 

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They've gone way downhill... used to be able to walk in, pick stuff up, have them put it on out account, and walk out. If I needed something shipped, they were there for us. Then, for whatever reason, our local store locked their doors, told us (basically) FY to the shipping stuff, said if we ordering minimum lots weekly then they didn't want our business, and they'd close "our account". From their little podunk store.

Mind you, the account was the, um, "State of California". So I think in one fell swoop in a little local outlet they pretty much told us to get off their dying lawn so they could continue to spray it with Fastenal brand Agent Orange. LOTS of companies providing the same services, IDK if they;re still there (I heard they closed the store down), but they became a non-entity for most of us...
 

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Maybe I missed it but everything I've ever gotten from fastenal was over priced junk. Well other than the Proto tool cataloge.
 

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I guarantee they aren't missing your purchase. As a stockholder (and former employee) IDGAF either. You are going to an industrial storefront and expecting customer service from the 1950s. it doesn't work that way anymore.

Your big purchases in the past have zero bearing on the salesman's commission/bonus today. If you need $100 worth of nuts and bolts, head on down to Ace if you insist in shopping in person. Personally I'd just order it online and have exactly what I need shipped to my door like everything else and not waste their time or mine (and then hop online to rant about it).

I think there are some kids on your lawn you should be yelling at.
Wow, I can see this company was built on customer service. I work in the auto industry, next time you need air for your tires its a 100$ and dont waist my time with small talk!!
 

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IIRC the founder started selling fasteners out of vending machines, so I'm not sure what you are referring to as 'customer service' ever existed within the company

Sounds like you work at a Mercedes dealership?
 

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Interesting. I guess I've not been since before THE COVID, but I always liked it. They would let me use an account I knew of and most everything I bought was priced very well. I would buy 100pk of zip ties for less than $1 a pack. Guess I should've built up a good nut/bolt stash when the getting was good.
 

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I have never had the opportunity or need to shop Fastenal, so my experience is zero.
What hearing all this tells me is that this company is not at all interested in anyone but the big money customers.
As someone who built his own successful business from very little, I learned that you never say “no” to a prospective customer (unless you couldn’t actually supply the requested service). As soon as you say”no”, your customer is out the door and not coming back. It seems that doesn’t matter to Fastenal. Sad.
 

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I've never been a fan on fastenal because they're more expensive than local fastener houses, that will also deliver for business accounts. A year or so ago I tried to buy a 1/2" shaft collar (nothing special) from them, I place my order online that said they have those locker things out front. So I drive over there, nothing out front but a sign on the door saying they had a 2 hour window every work day for pickups. What's the point of using pickup lockers if you have to go during a tiny window of time. Ended up going to Ace, because they might have it and I needed it that friday. Worst part is I still haven't gotten my $1.06 refund from fastenal.
 

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I'm not a Fastenal fan either. For years, we've been purchasing hardware from McMaster and tools from Grainger. Over the last year or so, purchasing has been pushing us to order from Fastenal instead. What a joke. Yeah, we can save a few bucks here and there because their prices are a little better and they let us order small quantities of hardware for special projects, but you have to really pay attention to the inventory status of anything you are ordering. If the box is yellow and says "Ships within X days" don't bother ordering. It might be a few days or a few months before you actually get it.

About a month ago, I get a bag with 5 impact sockets from them. I didn't remember ordering them, and the bin in the crib was full. Scratching my head and thinking maybe they were supposed to go to a different department, I looked up the PO. I'd ordered the damn things in October. Mind you, these were just generic 3/8" drive 12mm impact sockets. Nearly 5 months to ship me something that was supposedly going to ship within a few days. I then went through my orders and saw that I'd placed another order through Grainger a few weeks later, which is why the bin was filled.
 

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Glad I'm not the only one. Most of our suppliers still use them and they buy by the pallet, although I've tried to link some up with other wholesalers. Totally agree with ripoff prices, terrible hours and worst of all is accounts are all store by store, no central system, and without an account in each store you visit you'll get lousy service. Some places will even make you call a branch you have an account with to pickup at a branch you don't have an account at.

I buy from Belmetric, Yankee Industrial, NH Bragg, Bolt Depot, and other local places in any town I go to, although all the above will also ship. Much cheaper and better hours. The corporate accounts Fastenal sells to won't be on top of the game forever, and if the continue to sour all the up-and-comers they won't be doing so well in a few years.
 

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Our local fastenall went to appointment only. They have 2 storefronts in town. Since forever, they have only had like 9-5/M-F hours. So the times when most people are busy working. You had to take time off work to go to the fastenal store. If you're doing projects on the nights or weekends, festenal was closed.

Then last time I tried to go to the store, they had a sign up that said they are appointment only. You need to call ahead of time when you are planning on needing. a bolt or a washer. The store is a joke. It is run like they dont care to actually make any profit.
 

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Fastenal had several locations and I'd been in to get some PPE since the prices were competitive as well an easy in-out pick-up task. For the machine stuff, the prices were not so competitive. Prices went up more and the rep that knew me had moved on so the treatment was like coming in off the street. The staff was constantly changing so it must have sucked working there. That location closed. I see that the ones in the area are by appointment, that crazy.
 

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Wow, what can I say. I spent thousands there when I had the truck shop, but now I'm semi-retired and don't use/need much. I still have several stacks of their pull-out tray assortments of nuts, bolts, you name it, probably 40+ of them. I needed to fill up the flat washer trays and some other misc bolts so I called the local store, or what's left as the local store. (Strongsville closed a few years ago, then Middleburg, then Brunswick, leaving Medina closest) After listening to a 30 second recording telling me that if I didn't have an account (I do) their minimum charge is $50. No biggie, I plan to spend more than that. I finally talk to a sales person when basically tells me they closed my account due to inactivity (it's been 2+ years) and if I want anything to order it online. I don't like their website (I've used it before) and want service where I can walk in and get my trays filled up.

After listening to this I started to tell him how disappointed I was after spending considerable amounts of money with them in the past. The SOB hung up on me! I went to True Value hardware and dropped over $400 filling my trays. F*** Fastenal!

TLDR. Needed $300+ in coupling nuts for the following morning. 2 local Fastenals turned me down for not having an account. Local HD/Lowes combined didn't have enough. Fastenal over an hour away said they will hold until closing(within minutes of my gps ETA). Arrived to a locked door and sign "closed to general public". 3rd phone call the door opened. Guy checked me out without a problem. He did comment that corporate wants them to focus only on commercial accounts for the profit but he will continue to sell the whoever so long as he has the time. Guy saved my, well my boss's ***.


About a year ago for work we needed somewhere around 150ish coupling nuts for the following day. Boss not knowing what a coupling nut was gave the task of finding them to me. My first thought was Fastenal since ive always drove by one a few times a week and i know they deal in fasteners/hardware. 2 closest fastenals(one near home and another not far from the job) wouldn't talk to me after i told them we didnt have an account. Went online and started searching and if i cleared out every home depot and lowes within an hours drive(literally would of been at least 7 HD/Lowes off the top of my head) i still wouldn't of had enough.

Called a Fastenal for the hell of it just over an hour from home down in Berks County. Told him what i wanted, told me his system showed 7ish more than i needed in stock. Told him id be driving over an hour, was willing to pay for them over the phone just to ensure they would be there. Put me on hold for a few minutes, came back and said i couldnt pay over the phone. Im just waiting to be asked "do you have an account?". Instead he said he counted them and was actually a few shy of the number i told him i needed but i had until closing to get there or they were going back on the shelf.

I arrived less than 5 minutes before closing to a locked door and a sign on the door stating something along the lines of "closed to the general public". I was furious. Called the number 3 times until someone picked up. Told him who i was, that i just drove over an hour there, and that the door was f*cking locked. Got real quiet, heard some talking in the background. My trucks clock said it was 2 minutes past closing and i thought he hung up on me. Another voice says come in and as I'm about to repeat that the door was locked someone walked out. Apparently the guy who walked out was the guy who locked the door early to get done whatever and go home. The whole time the guy i spoke to was checking me out i was waiting for the "account name?" question but it didn't come.

I waited until after i paid and asked about the sign on the door. He blamed it on corporate, that they dont think its worth selling to the average guy when they can focus on commercial accounts which bring in more money. One commercial order which they can load, haul, and deliver in hours profits more than the store front in a week or even a month. But as far as he was concerned a sale is a sale. Priority goes to commercial accounts but if he can make sales between them he will continue to do so. He commented that commercial accounts may make big money but can also lose big money since some locations they service barely go through much of any fasteners yet they are still required to stop by, check the bins, friendly chitchat, just ******* money away and the one transaction with me taking all of 10-15 minutes total profited them more money than many accounts they have in months and that if my employer decides to look for a supplier we will have their name in mind, The way he made it sound i assumed he had to of been upper management at that store, or maybe just not a *******. Thanked the man, Took me both Lowes and finally the last HD before home to get the last few i needed with an extra.

Just to make the boss sweat it out i waited until 5am the next day when i was leaving to tell me i acquired them. He thanked me. Fired me a few months later. Guess i shouldnt of told him i did my part and he could spin them all on?? Was rehired 2 months later. Water under the bridge? Sure, something like that but remember there is only so much water and eventually it comes back around.
 

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I have had the same experience. Overpriced, out of stock, underwhelming customer service, and now they won't even sell to me. I went local brick-and-mortar and now have phenomenal pricing and great customer service. They'll sell me a single screw with a smile, so they get my big orders too. I've never looked back.
 

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I love all the bitching that an industrial supplier doesn't want to deal with homeowner hank and his $50 of random bolts.
 
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Fastenal's main focus now is putting their stores and vending machines on customer property. They even have pods/containers full of their vending machines for outdoor sites. It is supposed to save the customer money by having a single vendor for purchasing, automatic replenishment, and Fastenal owns the product until the customer removes the item from the store or the vending machine. This model is also supposed to reduce consumption of some items as they are not out in the open and usage is tracked back to the employee.

I can see why Fastenal is closing branches because the branch is no longer their main focus.
 
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