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What's there to discuss? One is Taiwan the other is USA, the finish looks bad on both of them.
 
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John T

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So I ask you Lord

What do we learn from this?

Please think before you speak
Thank you


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John T

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I guess ragtop is correct

My grandfather was an engineer for Stanley works.
I inherited probably 500 pounds of junk wrenches
Along with a lot of good stuff

But the wrenches were seconds
Rejected for tolerances

And also the obvious in the pictures

I scrapped a lot of them built a few sissy bars for Harley's

And kept the few Lord knows why.

Thought you lot would find them interesting

Free-trade baby.

We will see what the Trump affect will have on this whole BS

A lot of my family work for Stanley works through the years

Then they started moving things to South Carolina
Then overseas

And we all know the rest of the story.




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I have usa stanleys...they are hit or miss. I picked up a couple good ones NOS, but scoured the best copies...out of 20 or 30...the avove finish variation and stylistic incoherence has nothing to do with COO...I can tell you that the USA ones look just like that...same model number with obvious generational or OEM variations...then agaoin, maybe the NOS stash was a bunch of seconds like yours.

They are decently comfy, not quite long pattern, and feel closer to HRC 38-40 than 45.

But the price was not near $20/per each or whatever a good new wrench costs (maybe $40 on the truck-- if youre snap on).
 

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Well I learned Stanley now contracted with SK at least once. AND perhaps SK sold Stanley the old dies to use in a Taiwan forge.

OR SK has been lying to us for 30 years and all their wrenches have been Taiwan forged with a USA embosssing.
 

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So I ask you Lord

What do we learn from this?

Please think before you speak
Thank you


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Given that you:
  • Picked a lousy title for the thread
  • Didn't crop pictures worth a damn
  • Think you can show a relationship between tool quality and COO based on some rejected tools
  • Think that wrench stampings take 7 days

What I've learned is that you shouldn't drink and do drugs on Christmas eve and then post on the internet
I guess ragtop is correct

My grandfather was an engineer for Stanley works.
I inherited probably 500 pounds of junk wrenches
Along with a lot of good stuff

But the wrenches were seconds
Rejected for tolerances

And also the obvious in the pictures

I scrapped a lot of them built a few sissy bars for Harley's

And kept the few Lord knows why.

Thought you lot would find them interesting

Free-trade baby.

We will see what the Trump affect will have on this whole BS

A lot of my family work for Stanley works through the years

Then they started moving things to South Carolina
Then overseas

And we all know the rest of the story.




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It was rejected for either week stampings or bad tolerance or both


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Looks like the Taiwan made wrench does not have "flank drive". I am guessing it was made 30 years ago, even more?
 
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That if it isn't a 70+ year old chisel or plane and it says Stanley on it you should leave it on the shelf where it belongs? Their tape measures are fine but after snapping my last 5 Stanley screwdrivers following the Haynes manual on removing a flywheel and bending a modern chisel with a wooden mallet and an attempt at a mortice I've given up on them. All their stuff looks cheap and lousy to me.
 

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Stanley really fueled the manufacturing of tools to go overseas. The satin finish is questionable.
 
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John T

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Country of origin.

OK thanks.

I think wmm2 should continue to buy ONLY made in Taiwan tools. :D

The Donald is flipping off China and ready to make direct deals with Taiwan...

so things are looking good. :rocker:
 
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John T

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I think the title of this thread is acceptable.... since people are in fact discussing....

what they are discussing is another kettle of fish.


drinking on Christmas eve? well, you got me there...

no drugs...

don't do drugs kids....

Drugs are Bad.
 

Al Borland

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We learned that satin finish tools rust easier due to the surface texture. (But I already knew that).
We learned that Stanley made tools in Taiwan and allegedly made some in the US of A. (But I already knew that).
We learned that fellow G.J. members will give you **** about vague posts. (But I already knew that).
We learned that the O.P. made motorcycle parts for HARLEYS out of rejected, foreign and fake-USA low-quality tools. (Didn't know that).
 
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John T

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By the way I see two wrenches. A Stanley and a Stan-ree.

I think we have a winner.... :thumbup:

sausage bread is in the oven.... smells damn good..

took the dogs out and did poop patrol....

heading over to family in a little bit.

have egg nog, will travel.
Merry Christmas.;)
 
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Definitely time to slow down on the eggnog or maybe to get the meds updated:lol:

To me, the wrenches are from a time when tools weren't polished, didn't receive public displays of affection, or designed to be like jewelry. They're basic, no frills, get the job done type tools meant to be used and not adored.:dunno:

Yes, the may also harken back to the start of globalization and moving production offshore but, there's a lot of hate here for Stanley so, that comes with the territory. :beer:
 
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John T

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We learned that fellow G.J. members will give you **** about vague posts. (But I already knew that)
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Hey Al,
I'll bet we get more milage out of this thread than looking at pictures of screw driver organization... :eyecrazy: :deadhorse

Don't make me post pictures of my Stanley scwoo dwivers. :lol:
 

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Seems like I remember Stanley/B&D being the first ones out the gate to do offshoring. I can name you all the Stanley branded tools in my shop; a few tape measures, a FatMax bag & tool box. They are all very nice.

Every other tool with the Stanley name has been junk for my entire life. There may be an exception I haven't encountered yet, but Stanley has been their lowest level of anything except doors for decades.

If you did the same comparison with Mac's overseas vs US made wrenches, we may have something to talk about. But this is comparing rotted apples to rotted oranges anyway.
 
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