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madcrisis

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So im looking to pick up a decent DMM? is this something I should look for used or just buy new to avoid problems? Do they lose calibration at all? I'm looking for one that will last a LONG time and do whatever I need. (which isnt much, ive gotten by with a couple $20-$30 range so far.) but you never know what might pop up.

Also is fluke the only way to go? looking to spend around 100, so I figure if a used one is safer I can get a better one cheaper.
 
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I got an Equus at walmart for 23$ does everything I need and it 10 meg ohm (safe for auto use). I tested it against a fluke, same values.

Had it for 3 years now.
 

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Klein MM2000 at Home Depot. Does everything most people will need for $109. I have had mine for 3 years now and use it daily and its been great. It replaced a 15 year old fluke 73 that broke. The screen is large and easy to see also has a back light. Does temp readings as well as true rms. Its just an excellent value.
http://m.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-True-RMS-Digital-Multimeter-MM2000/202521275
 

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i have gotten 2 fluke off of ebay. been using 1 at work and 1 at home, seem to work fine. I compared them against known good one and got same values.
 

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Get a used Fluke 87 off ebay. 27 if you can deal with lack of cap and frequency.
 

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I wouldn't be afraid to buy used if it looked to be well taken care of and you knew what you were looking for. If you buy it in person you can check the fuses before hand. I guess if you buy it on ebay you could check the fuses too and then file a claim if its not working.
 

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Uni-T brand on amazon is what ill be getting! Take a look at those if you want, but fluke is always a quality choice
 

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DMMs hold up pretty well but, if you buy used, make sure all the segments of the display work. There can be issues with all the tiny connections between the display and the circuit board.
 

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Got one that I've had since 1984, can't remember the brand, but it's still working just fine.
Got a couple Craftsmans that I bought on clearance that work just fine too. Calibration??
Not sure how much accuracy you need for household and automotive use??
 

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So im looking to pick up a decent DMM? is this something I should look for used or just buy new to avoid problems? Do they lose calibration at all? I'm looking for one that will last a LONG time and do whatever I need. (which isnt much, ive gotten by with a couple $20-$30 range so far.) but you never know what might pop up.

Also is fluke the only way to go? looking to spend around 100, so I figure if a used one is safer I can get a better one cheaper.

My knee jerk is always to buy second hand top quality over new second quality new. In this case, I'm quite sure you can find top of the range Fluke models for under $100. I recommend that approach.

If you decide to go new, there are a couple things you should know about:
1) Most inexpensive models will be made in China or Taiwan. Some are made from old twist ties and cardboard. This can create a real safety hazard.
2) I read several reviews. 2 models stood out: Uni-T and the Chinese Flukes (models 15B/17B).
3) Lead quality and alligator/probe quality is something to consider. Fluke accessories are expensive but generally worth it, safer, and more convenient to use. I eneded up buying a Fluke 15, but spent as much on accessories as I did on the meter.
4) For automotive, where currents and voltages are generally lower, I think you are safer with less DMM. Its when you start dealing with household currents that you need better gear. THAT SAID, you can still hurt yourself with 12V automotive systems.
 

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Also make sure the meter has a high impedance if you are testing anything there than battery voltage in a vehicle. Most are but some cheap models are not.
 

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I would rather buy a used outdated fluke than a new cheap Chinese

Accuracy usually isnt a problem but I have found the refresh rate on a fluke to be a lot better than on the low end stuff.
 

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I thought everyone would recommend new but I also had good luck with used, bought a gen V Fluke 87 here on the classified a few years ago, was a good deal and it is in perfect condition...works great.
 

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I bought an inexpensive fluke 88 off ebay. It was inexpensive because the display was screwed up. But you can get a kit to repair the display on the bay also, which is what I did. Now I have a great meter for cheap.
 

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The Uni-T UT61E is going to be really hard to beat because it's very well made for the price. Sure, some much more expensive meters will be more nicely made, but for the money the UT61E is pretty nice. I've been using one for a little while now and I'm very happy with it with the only thing that really should be improved upon are the test leads. They're OK and still usable, but not great. And it doesn't have a back-light on its display. There are some video reviews on youtube if you search around there.


http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007THZMWI/?tag=atomicindus08-20


https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=uni-t+UT61E
 

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I like the Fluke meters, if you can find a nice used one go for it! It all depends on use. I use one everyday and my life depends on it so I stick with higher quality meters and usually new.
 
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Thank you everyone for the replies. This meter will be used for household, automotive, and occasional electronics work. So accuracy is somewhat important. I will have to look into the Uni-T brand as well. It seems people have also had good luck with used meters so I will have to search for a good deal, new or used. Its not necessary at this current moment but there have been times I had to go to school to use a quality meter, and since im about to graduate its time to get a decent one.

Also are there any even close to my range with a oscilloscope feature? I havent needed one yet but the need my arise some day.
 
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I thought everyone would recommend new but I also had good luck with used, bought a gen V Fluke 87 here on the classified a few years ago, was a good deal and it is in perfect condition...works great.

Have a new Fluke 177 from Ebay and it is a great meter. Even used I would buy one (or another Fluke). Fast, accurate, reliable, safe, actually usable hold and min-max functions etc.

When using one for grid tied stuff I would consider a meter with a good and true CAT rating. When checking car electronics you need good accuracy too.

http://www.eevblog.com/forum/testge...ot-appear-to-meet-their-claimed-safety-specs/

maybe the Fluke ones are overkill for your use, I can´t judge that.
 
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Thanks for the link Botje. Through that link I found a list of reccomended meter. Anyone have any experience with Agilent meters? They seem to be well regarded as the post reccomended all of them.
I always look at it as overkill and more features is better than not having enough. Now I feel like I'm overthinking thinking the decision of which one to get haha
 

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I just picked up a Klein Tools Electrical Test Kit. It contains a MM100 Meter, a NCVT-1 non-contact voltage tester and a RT100 Receptacle Tester.

Is it top of the line? Not likely, but it's rugged enough for me to use in the house or out in the garage or out alongside the highway. It fits my needs. I no longer need voltage accuracy to 4 digits.

Pick a good meter for your needs.
 

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You can get a good used Fluke 87 on eBay for around $100 dollars. Get a Fluke and be done with it, you won't be disappointed. If you want something new take a look at Extech. I'd stay away from the Uni-T meters, they aren't that great in my opinion. The EX505 from Extech is a great meter and it's in your price range. It's got 11 functions, true RMS, .5% basic DC accuracy, has all the basic functions you would need in a general purpose meter, and it's even waterproof. Check out Tequipment.net they've got some of the best prices on the net.
 

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Being involved with industrial maintenance for 30 years I'll share my opinion as that you must remember that you may be trusting your life to your meter and even Fluke (the industry leader by a large margin) but even Fluke has had recalls were their meters were giving false negatives ( showing no voltage when in fact there was). I know people are going to reference the technique "Live-Dead-Live" but that is not always something someone can do, so having a solid meter is imperative. Of note check out Fluke's safety videos, my company has made then part of our electrical safety program, key fact not all meters that are so called designed to a given voltage rating or class can safely work to those voltages.

TheGrooveking

PS, I own more than 50 meters and have worked with voltages as high as 24,400 volts AC.
 

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I use Fluke meters every day. I can say that i really trust my life to them. Agilent also makes a very solid meter, as does Extech and B&K. The Simpson 260 is still a great meter, I have several, Just a bit large and easy to drop and break. 28 years in the maintenance field and just as many meters in the collection!
 

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I would rather buy a used outdated fluke than a new cheap Chinese

Accuracy usually isnt a problem but I have found the refresh rate on a fluke to be a lot better than on the low end stuff.



The price of meters has gone in the toilet when OSHA and NEC said need to use rated meters on jobsites.
Most of the Flukes are good for general auto and homeowner use.
I have 3 Flukes and none are current enough to use on a jobsite.
Also have a Simpson 260 which is the Cadillac of analog meters
 

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Except for one or two, I have Fluke meters I have bought used. No need to pay a lot of money unless maybe if you use them daily.

A trick with used meters: it surprises me but even high quality meter leads can fail sooner than they should. If the meter display works but it does not read, or reads intermittently, try a different set of leads.
 
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madcrisis

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Ok guys ive run into a diagnosis i need a really good meter or a scope. Will a fluke 87 or 115 be able to diagnose max voltage on an ignition system? I am having problems on my outboard and need to find where the issue is. Its the stator, power pack, or voltage regulator. However my current meter is not quick enough to pick up the voltage spikes to diagnose it. Will either one of these flukes be fast enough and hold the max voltage value or am i forced to get a scope? if I cant find it I will have to take it to someone and that would just kill me (I'm sure many of you know the feeling)
 
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Anyone? I know a scope would be the best tool to use but its not often I need one so if i can get away with a DMM Id rather just expedite this purchase. Any thoughts?
 

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The 87 might catch a fast glitch, it depends how fast, My 289 would, but a really expensive meter. Do you know anyone with a Simpson 260? that will catch a really fast glitch, then match the meter to the glitch!
 
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madcrisis

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I don't. I tried a craftsman professional which did pick up a voltage of 33v. its supposed to be reading 125 but the craftsman reads RMS(i believe) so I'm not sure if this is a proper reading. I do however have access to nice oscilloscope, volt meter, and signal generator. The problem is these are at school and I cannot take them home or bring an outboard to school. Does anyone know a way to test a stator and power pack while not being hooked up to the motor?

I know I'm hi-jacking my own thread but its getting annoying. I might buy a scope but apparently the ones around $100 arent worth a darn most of the time.
 

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So im looking to pick up a decent DMM? is this something I should look for used or just buy new to avoid problems? Do they lose calibration at all? I'm looking for one that will last a LONG time and do whatever I need. (which isnt much, ive gotten by with a couple $20-$30 range so far.) but you never know what might pop up.

Also is fluke the only way to go? looking to spend around 100, so I figure if a used one is safer I can get a better one cheaper.
If you want new, check out the Brymen BM257S. Can be had for $130 a nice, very accurate meter, ul-rated safety standards, from a trusted company. Brymen is the OEM for most of Greenlees upper end meters. For example, the Greenlee DM-860A is a rebadged Brymen BM869S. Which speaking of the BM869S by the way, it is one of the best meters on the market right now; higher safety rating than any Fluke (Cat IV 1kV), higher accuracy than even the Fluke 289, more features, etc. Let alone the price is cheaper than the 87V new.
 
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