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ToolmanTom

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Due to over crowding of my garage I decided to build a 30' x 40' x 10', 4:12 pitch shop. I have preplanned it since I built the house about 5 years ago. It will be a steel clear span. and will not be completed till at least end of July, thats when the building will be delivered.
 

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So far, Murphy 3, garage 1.
When the contractor parked in front of the house, The backhoe had a split in the hydraulic line to the stabilizer. made a big mess.
after a couple days of work and the pad pour, he had parked the backhoe next to the house for the night, a couple hours later my wife seen smoke coming from the backhoe. Yup, it was on fire. I got the extinguisher and put it out. and disconnected the battery. It had worn through the positive cable, shorted the cable and melted it in half.

I hope this isn't how the rest of the build will be.

PS. threat of rain for the pour was #3
 
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Think you may have to call in an Witchdoctor to calm the spirits. How was the contractor's last job?

Wish ya luck with the build. You must feel like a kid in a candy store!
 

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Think you may have to call in an Witchdoctor to calm the spirits. How was the contractor's last job?

Wish ya luck with the build. You must feel like a kid in a candy store!
I agree. Have you ever seen the movie Poltergeist?
My wife or as I call her (she who must be obeyed) told me I could have my garage built and I couldn't sleep that night just thinking about it. Of course then my daughter told us she is getting married (now I'm a wedding planner and they aren't cheap). Now the garage has to wait.
Anyway good luck on your build.
 

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No worries man. You're just gettin' all the screw ups out of the way early. Pad looks good but that's gonna be a ***** waitin' 'til July. I guess it's good to get a start before the CEO changes her mind. Good luck.:beer:
 

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Looks like you are right up on the fence. Is that the property line? In a lot of jurisdictions you can not build that close to a property line without a variance.
 
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Looks like you are right up on the fence. Is that the property line? In a lot of jurisdictions you can not build that close to a property line without a variance.

There is 3 feet to the side and 10 feet to the back, that is what is min for a 10 foot building. and the back has a ten foot easement. it is also a little more then 6 feet to the house. but all within code.

The weekend project is done, put up the retaining wall.
 

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Well, today we poured about 14 yards. Monday was rained out.
we will pour another 20 yards tomorrow.
 

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Lawnmower coming up for sale!!!! Just concrete and roof over the backyard took care of that:lol_hitti Looking forward to more pics.
 
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One of the crew didn't show, so we only poured 10 yards today, the last 10 will be in the morning.
 

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All the concrete is in. over 40 yards of it. next is some gravel,lawn and sprinkler repair.:bounce::beer:
 

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Latest news was...They will start the build order next week and delivery date is moved up to the end of June.:bounce:
 

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I'm thinking this stretch with the ramp must be outside the building, correct?
 
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I'm thinking this stretch with the ramp must be outside the building, correct?

Yes it is behind the building. I have a 10 foot easement on the back side where the ramp is, and it will be used for outside covered storage. I purchased a 10 x 20 metal cover to use there. the ramp will help roll things in and out of the shop, I didnt make it level with the shop because the slope to the fence would be too much.
 
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Just received the building on wed.
and while I had the FL, might s well start putting this thing together.
 

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Been working on it for a couple of hours each day. So far I have done it all by my self. it is going faster and easer then I thought it would. The rep for the steel manufacturing plant is coming out tomorrow to look at a few problems and bringing replacement parts.
Also went to the Snap-on guys house to see my new boxes, Big Beautiful Boxes(BBB). Its Christmas in July for me.
 

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Here is the latest progress, and I have yet to see a neighbor come over to help.:headscrat

Thank you guys for your support.:beer:
 

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Uh neighbors probably haven't offered to help because you are building that huge metal garage in what appears to be neighborhood. I would be pissed if I was your next door neighbor in a neighbor hood with my house and back yard that close to yours. If you were doing this on a few acres of land it may be different.
 

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slicktoptt;
I was thinking the same thing! While I would have no problem with it, I am sure my neighbors would and that would lead to problems. But, if it meets code...........build it! (Just don't ask the neighbors to like it) :bounce:
 

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Uh neighbors probably haven't offered to help because you are building that huge metal garage in what appears to be neighborhood. I would be pissed if I was your next door neighbor in a neighbor hood with my house and back yard that close to yours. If you were doing this on a few acres of land it may be different.

If they don't like it they can move. It's his land, do what you want. I would be pissed if some nuisance neighbor came over to give me his 2 cents about what to do with my property.


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I am currently building a 30 x 50 garage with 16' walls.

It is within code but my neighbor threw a fit when he saw it.
All I had to say was you live in the city if you dont want my garage next to your house you can put a for sale sign in your front yard.

Lets face it to many people want to dictate what you can and cant do.
If my neighbor was building the same thing I would have made a positive comment and offer some help :)
 

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how are you getting the roof trusses and perlins up by your self? I'm doing the exact same size and have the pad done. just waiting to get the cash to do the shop. Haven't decided on metal or stick build and since most work will be done by me I was wondering about the build methods?
 

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Steve if you were asking me, You put the trusses up by raising the one side of the truss up on the wall with some help of a good friend, then carry the other side up on a ladder so the peak is facing down. Once you get the other end up on the wall you use a long 2x4 to push the peak up into place. I hope that helps.
 

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If I was your neighbor, i'd be coming over to help, along with dragging a cooler over too.

I put my wooden trusses up like you are talking about....Some good Jeep'n friends
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Being within code and fitting into the surrounding neighborhood are two different things. While I generally hate homeowners associations I understand their purpose...to create standards throughout the neighborhood that maintain property values for all neighbors.

I feel bad for the neighbors of you guys that say "if my neighbor doesn't like it he can sell". Well no he cant' because no one will want to buy his house with something like that next to it. Would you guys be happy if your neighbor decided to paint his house bright pink and yellow when all the other house in the neighbor hood are brick? Try selling your house with an eyesore next door.

I don't like HOA's telling me what I can do with my property either so I bought 2 acres of land not in a neighborhood. That is where buildings like this belong.

Other than that it's a nice space and would be cool as hell to hang out. Just my thoughts.
 

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While I'll be the first to say that a property owner should be able to do as they please with their property, there are also limitations that should be in place to some point.

In this case, I think the metal building is out of place. IMO at a minimum the exterior should have been made to match the house, which I think would have gone a long way towards helping the neighbor's attitude.
Unfortunately there are no cut and dried answers to what exactly the limitations should be because there are alot of variables.

We just went through a 5 month ordeal trying to a foreclosure home on a 1.25 acre lot. Would have needed a shop built, and while their codes were fairly loose in most areas they had a limit that said the "accessory" building should be no taller than the house. Well, the house on the place was a ranch with a low pitched roof, so the shop building by their latest code would have been limited to 15' tall. This would have been all fine and good if all the neighboring houses were ranch styles, but instead the neighbors on either side had raised ranch/split foyer styles that were considerably taller. Plus, there were other buildings in the neighborhood that had been built prior to the code that were well outside the present code.
So, I would have only been able to build a 15' total heighth, while the neighbors on either side would have been able to build close to 20' high. Plus others already had "noncomforming" buildings. In this case, IMO the new codes were discrimatory as there was no "standard" in the neighborhood. Had all the homes been 15' tall ranches a 20' tall accessory building would have been really out of place in the overall look.

However, we have now finally told the mortgage company holding the forclosure to stick in their ear and went a bought another property.
In THIS case, the new property is also 1.2 acres in an 18 home development, but it is in a large grove of trees. This time of year you have to look really hard to even catch a glimpse of the neighboring house or buildings. Nearly every lot in the development has an extra garage or pole building, but even from the street you have a hard time seeing most of them. It really doesn't matter what the extra buildings look like.

I think we all need to take these things into consideration when we build our shops, AND when we're doing our work in and around the shops after they're built. Basically, lack of consideration for others has been the reason why homeowners associations and covenants were formed in the first place. Think about it.

Yes, a property owner should have the right to do as they please, however so does the property owner next door. If you please to make horrendous amounts of noise while they're pleasing to sleep, or if you please to build a 3 story shop right across where they please to watch the wildlife there's gonna be troubles.

BTW, the property we signed on this week has 2 stalls on the house AND a
30x40x12 existing polebuilding:beer:
 
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