Jim greengo
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What he said.
Do I need a larger cable puller or?
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What he said.
nadogail
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IMHO, It is impossible to use too much lube on a wire pull.
I'm trying to find a pulley or something to change the direction of the rope so I can pull the wire. I can't seem to find anything that fits a 3/4" rope.
I'm thinking of renting a backhoe or something and putting the rope over the bucket and pulling it that way but I'm afraid its going to screw up the rope or the wire as it goes over the edge.
I'm thinking of renting a backhoe or something and putting the rope over the bucket and pulling it that way but I'm afraid its going to screw up the rope or the wire as it goes over the edge.
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grounded-b
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You don't really want a "pulley" per say. They're really not going to be rated for that kind of force.
Want we use, is called a "sheave". They are about 18" - 24" in diameter and about 4" wide at the groove.
Possibly you could devise something similar, using a steel wheel and an axle.
Steve
Yeah yeah yeah I want a sheave! The pulleys and ****** blocks that were rated for the 6000lb weight I was looking for is like in the hundreds/thousands of dollars lol.
Shouldn't I be finding something that is rated for that kind of force vs making my own?
I rented https://www.greenlee.com/us/en/ut10-with-mvb-and-all-adapters?w=2&c=159&b=86&r=30&p=1&l=4&v=c
10klb puller. I'm going to try and use this until I need to go longer and then at that point I can just pull passed the winch onto my truck.
Shouldn't I be finding something that is rated for that kind of force vs making my own?
I rented https://www.greenlee.com/us/en/ut10-with-mvb-and-all-adapters?w=2&c=159&b=86&r=30&p=1&l=4&v=c
10klb puller. I'm going to try and use this until I need to go longer and then at that point I can just pull passed the winch onto my truck.
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rabidsquirrel
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As an electrician that does this kind of stuff all the time, if you need a 10k pound tugger for that kind of pull, something is seriously wrong. Either the head is messed up, there's something obstructing the pipe, or not nearly enough lube. You need to pull everything back out and start over. Take a picture of the head you made. If you somehow get it pulled in this way, you definitely need to ring out all your wires to make sure nothing is shorted together.
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Dustball
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So I pulled everything back on Saturday and started over.
First, I pulled the rope back through but with a few rags to clean out anything that may have been in the pipe. Then I had someone working the machine, someone pushing/setting up the cable to go straight in the pipe. And I was at the opening of the pipe with rubber gloves on and a 5 gallon bucket of lube. I lubed every square inch of that thing.
I think the 3000lb puller probably would have worked but when I did it the last weekend I was using the machine and I'm fairly confident the person I had at the feeding end was just letting the machine do all the work. Also we barely used any lube.
Anyway. I got the pull all the way to the LB on my house and at that point I couldn't figure out how to pull all the length I needed to bend it into the house and then continue in one run.
Sooooooo instead, I just pulled it tight into the house and I'm going to splice a separate run in a junction box I'll put in the basement on the other side of the LB that's outside.
Because I started in the middle of the run I had to remake a new head and pull the remainder in the opposite direction towards the garage & generator. It worked out but there was a bunch of extra control wiring because I didn't think that through...
All in all I think it was a success. The only thing that I have to do now is get a few connectors to splice the inside run to the outside run.
First, I pulled the rope back through but with a few rags to clean out anything that may have been in the pipe. Then I had someone working the machine, someone pushing/setting up the cable to go straight in the pipe. And I was at the opening of the pipe with rubber gloves on and a 5 gallon bucket of lube. I lubed every square inch of that thing.
I think the 3000lb puller probably would have worked but when I did it the last weekend I was using the machine and I'm fairly confident the person I had at the feeding end was just letting the machine do all the work. Also we barely used any lube.
Anyway. I got the pull all the way to the LB on my house and at that point I couldn't figure out how to pull all the length I needed to bend it into the house and then continue in one run.
Sooooooo instead, I just pulled it tight into the house and I'm going to splice a separate run in a junction box I'll put in the basement on the other side of the LB that's outside.
Because I started in the middle of the run I had to remake a new head and pull the remainder in the opposite direction towards the garage & generator. It worked out but there was a bunch of extra control wiring because I didn't think that through...
All in all I think it was a success. The only thing that I have to do now is get a few connectors to splice the inside run to the outside run.
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I was afraid of not having a waterproof seal. Also I read on here that it you can con up aboveground then you should
Pingel85
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Seeing that, I would at the very least have an electrician come and megger the larger wires just to make sure the insulation is intact and you won’t have a short.
Mortar around the pipe and cover it with roofing tar if you're still worried. It will be sealed better than the rest of the wall.
In the house I grew up in no matter what my family tried to do there was always a leak in the basement of our house. So it was just a worry of mine.
In regards to the megger comment. What is the difference between doing that and using a multimeter to test for continuity?
Edit: nevermind. I just researched the difference and I just bought a Klein tools one from Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07ZZX5TK8/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This should get the job done. I hope.
In regards to the megger comment. What is the difference between doing that and using a multimeter to test for continuity?
Edit: nevermind. I just researched the difference and I just bought a Klein tools one from Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07ZZX5TK8/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This should get the job done. I hope.
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wyliesdiesels
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A megger injects voltage, up to the voltage rating of the wire (NM-b, Romex is rated for 600v) or higher, into the wire via one end and a connection to ground, to test the insulation integrity.