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Do I really need a 7.5 hp compressor?

MrSurly

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Presently have a 11 cfm husky 60 gallon unit that seriously held me up ------------- But not really impressed by the cfm at 18.

Two points to consider: 1. 18CFM is a 70% increase over 11CFM. Seventy Percent. Don't be so hasty is dismissing the difference. Maybe you can find a local buddy with a 17~18 CFM and get him to let you carry YOUR die grinder over to test and compare run times before you buy.

2. If your Husky is significantly worn, it may not even be delivering the original rated CFM, leading you astray. (It's possible that a fresh rebuild may make it suddenly enough)
 
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Two points to consider: 1. 18CFM is a 70% increase over 11CFM. Seventy Percent. Don't be so hasty is dismissing the difference. Maybe you can find a local buddy with a 17~18 CFM and get him to let you carry YOUR die grinder over to test and compare run times before you buy.

2. If your Husky is significantly worn, it may not even be delivering the original rated CFM, leading you astray. (It's possible that a fresh rebuild may make it suddenly enough)



Thanks. Unfortunately I seem to be the buddy with all the stuff.
This one was a great beginner unit but always was lacking. Good point on the exponential increase.


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I have 2, the pressures set similar if I have them both on but I have all the tanks tied together, about 200 gallons. I have a 3 and a 5, I have the breaker off the 5 and pump with the little one. I wire wheeled about 20 minutes the other day, maybe more, almost steady and I was finishing just as the air was running down.
Ifiam going to blast or would have to work longer could flip the backup on but it's so rare I leave it off. My stuff is on 24/7.
 

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It's really going to depend on what air tools you use and how you plan to blast. It is probably easier to buy the 7.5 HP and smile than pay a lot for a 5 HP and wish you bought the 7.5 HP instead.

I have die grinders that use around 20 CFM and angle grinders that are rated at 35 CFM. For angle grinders, they use the most with a grinding wheel. With a cutoff wheel through thick steel they slow down enough that even a 5 HP could keep up. Air drills, if you using those at full speed, can also use a bunch of air. I am not experienced in sand blasting. Some people seem to do OK with 5 and others prefer a 7.5.

Another vote for large air storage. Some of us on here have 200 or more gallons. By putting the tanks in series it also dries the air without the need for after coolers or air driers. I would vote to use your existing 60 gallon for this purpose, iff the data plate says its rated for 200 PSI. Some of these single stage pumps are on tanks that are not rated high enough to safely be used with dual stage compressors. If you wanted only a single large tank, tank size does help a little bit with dropping moisture, but I'd still want to have an after cooler package. They do sell 5 or 7.5 on 120 gallon though its not as common.

I have 2 x 5 HP on 240 gallons but because I live at 6500 feet, it performs like a 7.5 HP unit (downrate for altitude). This is enough for my needs on all the tools I listed. The extra air storage means the compressors don't come on that often using impacts and stuff like that. A couple tire rotations/ brake jobs before they're ready to come on. I can also do cutoff wheel work like cutting a collar and bearing off an axle shaft without them coming on at all.

Good 5 HP units will make around 17-18 CFM and good 7.5 HP units will make around 25-27 CFM.

Going to a dual stage setup is also a huge leap over your 3 HP 60 gallon single stage. They operate at 140-175 PSI so not only do you get more air volume in the tank, it also eliminates compensates for pressure drop across air lines and couplers, you're air tools won't be down on power. I have my regular set at 112 PSI using a 25 foot hose so the tools see around 90 PSI working pressure. Imagine on a single stage compressor with a 50 foot hose, the cutin is 90 PSI so your air tools is probably seeing around 60 PSI when the compressor is ready to come in... and even less than that if you've got those little swivel fittings in your tools.

The lowest cost thing you can do is simply buy another 3 HP / 60 gallon compressor and run both at the same time. But you won't get any of the dual stage benefits.
 
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buy a 3phase compressor put on single phase motor with new motor starter, done

its what i did 10hp 3 phase to single phase 7.5hp and changed pulley diameter to match all with the help of the manufacture service department.
 
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Been a long time coming. This will be the last compressor I will probably buy so I went with the 7.5 polar air. Also was going to build a room to quiet down the noise so instead of spending on 2x4s I got their one with a quiet muffler box. Only sold by factory as no dealers around me. 2158 for the compressor which was close to the bel air compressor. But I had to pay 460 for shipping and the bel air was free shipping. Looking at the weight this is 160 pounds heavier then the bel air most of that is in the better components so hopefully will be problem free. This thing is a beast.
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Been a long time coming. This will be the last compressor I will probably buy so I went with the 7.5 polar air. Also was going to build a room to quiet down the noise so instead of spending on 2x4s I got their one with a quiet muffler box. Only sold by factory as no dealers around me. 2158 for the compressor which was close to the bel air compressor. But I had to pay 460 for shipping and the bel air was free shipping. Looking at the weight this is 160 pounds heavier then the bel air most of that is in the better components so hopefully will be problem free. This thing is a beast.
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Ha what a coincidence. I'm looking at that very model. I stopped by their facility the other day (30 min away) to listen to it and all they had was a 10hp model available to hook up. I was blown away how quite it was and how fast it filled up the 80 gal. tank. They said the 7.5hp model is a little quieter since it turns a lower RPM.
 

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In using both a 5 hp 80 gallon IR and a 7.5 80 gallon IR, I'd say 7.5. The 7.5 didn't care what you were doing with say a cut off wheel, kick on, do its thing and kick back off while I never stopped what I was doing. With the 5 hp, it never caught up. Also with the 5 hp with the impact, if it didn't take it off at first, spin the gun until the compressor kicks on and wait for a full head. Night and day especially with the 3/4". All that said, I'm leaning hard towards a 60 gallon Quincy for my next compressor for space saving and the fact that a little 20 gallon I use now at home does 98% of my needs pretty happy.
 
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Ha what a coincidence. I'm looking at that very model. I stopped by their facility the other day (30 min away) to listen to it and all they had was a 10hp model available to hook up. I was blown away how quite it was and how fast it filled up the 80 gal. tank. They said the 7.5hp model is a little quieter since it turns a lower RPM.



Honestly the ONLY drawback was I had to pay for shipping. Five year bumper to bumper warranty???!! If you can pick it up and save shipping it’s a no brainer. The pump on this is massive. Haven’t even run mine and I already love it. Like having a blown big block sitting in the corner of a shop.


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Honestly the ONLY drawback was I had to pay for shipping. Five year bumper to bumper warranty???!! If you can pick it up and save shipping it’s a no brainer. The pump on this is massive. Haven’t even run mine and I already love it. Like having a blown big block sitting in the corner of a shop.

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Good call on the Whisper option. Once you have it hooked up you'll realize the need for a quite room is unnecessary. Aside from filling tires, any air tool you'll be using will drown it out 10 fold.
 
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I didn't "NEED" it either, but I got it if I do "NEED" it.



Plumbed a 3/4" RapidAir loop system while I was at it. :cool:



I picked up the rapid air 3/4 as well. How’s the water output on your polar? I’m considering a heat sink before the tank to eliminate hopefully all of it before it hits the tank


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I picked up the rapid air 3/4 as well. How’s the water output on your polar? I’m considering a heat sink before the tank to eliminate hopefully all of it before it hits the tank


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Haven't really had a chance to run it for extended periods just yet, but when it has went through a few cycles there was nothing to report. Nothing out of the auto drain or any drops. The true test will be once I get a blasting cabinet..
 
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