Do most put gutters on their pole barns

[cvcman]

I have 1 ft overhangs an the land slopes away, should I consider gutters ?
Will snow slide rip them off ? What would be a good guess for cost to do the two 40 ft sides with down spouts, 16 ft high walks

 

[jmlcolorado]

I’d say yes, but I’m in an area with lots of snowfall. My pole barn will have gutters for sure. Without them, I’d think yoi’re Going to wash away the soil as well as get a ton of splash onto the building making it dirty constantly.
Snow guards can be installed on the roof to help prevent snow from sliding off if the eve is in a high traffic area.

 

[jd_1138]

I'd have some put up. Don't want all that water near the bottom of the place. Also I'd put long drain extensions on the downspouts. Gutters are a lot cheaper than messing up the building.

Should be about 1,000. I'd probably go with aluminum.

 

[blair683]

Yes gutters are a must. I went a year without gutters when I built my pole building. The ground around it was always very wet and I had a trench down both sides where the water ran off of the roof. I always worried about water getting under my concrete and freezing. Although that never happened.

Gutters are much cheaper if you do them yourself. I had a quote for the seamless gutters. I needed two 29’ runs and 12’ downspouts. I got quoted $400. I did it myself with seams for $180. Menards sells 16’ sections of 5” gutter for like $18 a section. If you do your seams right you can hardly notice them. Especially with your 16’ walls.

If you have good fascia boards and use the hidden screw in gutter brackets then the snow is not an issue. I put my brackets 2’ apart. There are plenty of YouTube videos to show you how to do the seams and downspouts. It is really very easy.

 

[Musicinabottle]

My building was erected for free, including all the materials. I never put gutters on mine, but it does have 2 foot eaves. I couldn't stand having a building without any sort of eave, but I know they are nice if you have lots of wind.

 

[coljar]

I had them put gutters on my pole building when it was built. I have a 1ft. overhang too. Snow has only been one foot on it, but no problems so far.

 

[bobbyjean]

i don't have gutter's ...1 foot overhangs....yes snowslide is an issue...pole barn only been up for a year.9(2winter's)..my friends with gutter's on them say they will need to be respiked every few years....snow blocks can be installed ...i dont want holes in my metal roof so i may opt for the adhesive route to mount.

 

[tom-ky]

Last year it was $600 to do my building with 82 feet of gutters.

 

[flushcut]

I have never seen a shed with gutters, ever.

 

[lakeroadster]

I have 1 ft overhangs an the land slopes away, should I consider gutters ?
Will snow slide rip them off ?

Yes, you want gutters to keep the water away from the building and the poles in the ground. And yes snow can rip them off if you have a steel roof.

Steel roof on your pole barn? If the answer is yes, as others have said if you want gutters, you'll need snow trim. It's basically long steel pieces of angle that prevent the snow from sliding off.

But, that being said, you'll need to ensure that the roof / trusses are designed for snow trim, again, only if you have a steel roof. Steel roofs shed snow, until you add the snow trim. Because the snow trim will hold the snow on the roof, this creates a higher snow loading.

It's also nice not having a big pile of snow in front of your doors... you ever tried to shovel snow that has slid off a roof? It's compacted and can be quite difficult to remove.

I have never seen a shed with gutters, ever.

You really need to get out more.. ;-)

 

[ilovevocs]

If your looking for DIY and want seamless you could likely find someone that would do a “chop and drop”.

We offer it as a service. You give us the lengths you need, we show up with our machine, run them, put them on the ground, and leave.

Al seams fail over time. Coefficient of expansion and contraction is high, Rivets holes will oval out.

We stock coils of 24 GA kynar steel and that is my preferred material and the commercial standard in our region.

 

[wbclassics]

Timely discussion, as I've been watching the behavior of snow on the roof of my pole barn this winter as well here in the Syracuse area.

While my trusses are rated to handle 55psf snow load, I can't see any good reason to let snow sit on the trusses when the roof has demonstrated that it wants to shed it after 5-6" have accumulated. My pole barn is 36x72, with the front half at a 7/12 pitch, and the rear half of the structure at a 5/12 pitch. 18" overhangs along the eave walls, and I have one man door along the eastern eave wall.

So along both of my eave walls I'll be doing gutters with some sort of leaf cover, that should prevent sliding snow from catching, and allowing it to slip continuously past the gutter. That said, along the eastern eave wall, I will install snow guards along the length of eave wall roof up to and about 4ft past the location of the man door, to insure that I or someone else doesn't get slammed by an avalanche of snow when entering or existing the door or walking alongside that part of the building.

I have SnowDefender 4500s to match my roof color. See:

https://www.levisbuildingcomponents.com/snow-guards/4500-snow-guard.php

Levi's website also has a handy layout calculator, that takes into consideration your roof pitch and snow load, to determine how many rows and the spacing of the Snowguards. In my case, I have to run two rows to handle the snow load we have here.

I do not like the look of snow bars. Although if you have a standing seem metal roof, I like that the snow bar can be attached without the need to put hundreds of holes through the roofing.

 

[4 FN 27]

And yes snow will rip them off if you have a steel roof.

I have had gutters on my building since it was built. 3 Winters so far and they are still there. I don't have snow stops either.

Morton recommended I put the Gutters on to keep the water away from the foundation. They put them about 1.5 inches below the roof line. When the snow does slide off it sounds like an earthquake and the snow lands about 6-12 feet away from the building. Just slid off yesterday will I was welding.

 

[cvcman]

First price for 6" .032 gutters, hidden hangers ( the good ones).withdown spouts, installed 700.00 for tan colored
That's for 82ft

 

[OH_Varmntr]

128’ of 4” seamless gutters with downspouts on each corner was $760 installed.

I wanted 6” downspouts on one end of the building only but the guy said it was too much for 64’ runs and the late winter ice/rain would eventually tear them off the eaves. It’s not ideal for drainage for my site but it is what it is.

I haven’t installed snow bar or cleats yet but it’s on my list of things to do.

My grandfathers shop has no gutters on it and 20 years of it has resulted in nearly every grade board being rotted and the posts are showing signs of rot as well.

You spend this much money on a shop, you’d be crazy not to protect it with a <$1000 investment in gutters, IMO.


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[kbs2244]

The short answer is "yes"
And then not DIY!
Going oversized and seamless at those lengths and heights takes experience and equipment.
Morton's advice to 4 FN 27 is good.

 

[Aberdale]

I purposely didn't install gutters on any of my new buildings. I hate cleaning out gutters, and once they get clogged with leaves and twigs, it's worse than not having gutters at all because all of the water will run over the gutter at the lowest point rotting out the eaves and making a lake below.

I have 2' eaves, and aggressively slope the grade away from the building. On two of my buildings I poured a 20' concrete apron along the wall to carry the water away from the building. If I build any more buildings, I wouldn't hesitate to do it again.

Did I mention I hate to clean out gutters?

 

[Musicinabottle]

I purposely didn't install gutters on any of my new buildings. I hate cleaning out gutters, and once they get clogged with leaves and twigs, it's worse than not having gutters at all because all of the water will run over the gutter at the lowest point rotting out the eaves and making a lake below.

I have 2' eaves, and aggressively slope the grade away from the building. On two of my buildings I poured a 20' concrete apron along the wall to carry the water away from the building. If I build any more buildings, I wouldn't hesitate to do it again.

Did I mention I hate to clean out gutters?

That's me too. If you landscape like you stated, then it really isn't needed. I've never missed them anyways.

 

[Bert_]

I bet about 50% of shops and machine sheds have gutters. Many put a gravel strip ~3' wide around the building.

 

[jd_1138]

My building was erected for free, including all the materials. I never put gutters on mine, but it does have 2 foot eaves. I couldn't stand having a building without any sort of eave, but I know they are nice if you have lots of wind.

$500 in gutters is cheap insurance. Especially when the building was free, that leaves a lot of funds for gutters. lol

 

[lakeroadster]

That "Snow Trim" thread..... Metal Roof Snow Stops

My New shop, a typical metal roofed pole barn is only a few years old. The first winter i did not have snow guards, when the snow slid off the roof, and it came off in one slide,like a avalanche the heavy wet snow compacted when it fell off the 12 foot high end and i coulndt even plow it,6 feet deep and it compacted so hard my plow rode over the top of it!. I knew that was going to be a problem. I'm in upstate NY, we get a good amount of snow. So last year I put up snow guards mostly over the doors as i also wanted to have the snow slide off, just not where the doors are! It worked pretty good, we a tremendous amount of snow last year,
The snow guards did there job, none broke, it allowed the snow to slide off, and would melt off eventually where the guards were.
I did not have permanent heat yet last winter but i did have a stack for a future heater. well the snow did take that down last year, so this summer i made and installed a uhh, snow cutter, i guess.. i look alum diamond plate about 12"w x 6 feet long and mounted it to some alum angle, and screwed it up there in a V or wedge shape past the stack, my theory is when the snow slides it will cut it and divert is past the stack Its almost January and we got no snow! the jurys still out on that one..
last year

 

[sr71]

seems like an easy button to me .....<$1000 installed and no worries about water getting near the foundation

 

[3rdgendslmech]

I didnt worry about it too much at first.....2 severe summer thunderstorms later I hustled to get some gutters up before the 3rd storm in a week. 4 16ft sectons and brackets every 2 feet with 12' of downspout each...did the work myself for just shy of 250

 

[blair683]

I would make sure you need the oversize gutters. Most of the time you do not unless its a big commercial building. The 6" gutters are huge and hold way more snow/ ice. You can always use larger downspouts rather than bigger gutters.

 

[mikegt4]

I am on 5 acres out in the country and I had to put gutters on per county code!! It was a surprise that I wasn't expecting. Inspector said it was because of lawsuits over people falling on ice (roof run off in the city, in Ohio during the winter!!!).

 

[Outlander]

Metal roofs shed snow? I need to "encourage" by hiring the local guy to cut through the layers. He did the house and the garage today.

Agree on the compacted snow comments - in the end I was actually unable to cut through all the snow with the snowblower.

 

[jives]

Size of eaves is irrelevant. You want to keep the pouring rainwater from eroding the ground, splashing up on the walls, and pooling -- even with a sloped grade. Good gutter design will not be broken off by snow falling off the roof.

 

[rusty1]

have two buildings, one stick built on a concrete slab, 33 years now, no gutters to worry about, no problems with water or snow;..other building is a 20 year old polebarn,...no gutters , no problem with snow/water,..both have 2 foot overhang on all four side...
snow sliding off the polebarn can be a problem when it all slides off but snow is a problem anyway, that's what the 50 Allis Chalmers tractor/plow is for...

 

[NUTTSGT]

I bet about 50% of shops and machine sheds have gutters. Many put a gravel strip ~3' wide around the building.

I have a 12" strip of river rock on two sides of my garage with a perforated tile buried under the river rock to carry the water away.

 

[davethorik]

A couple years back I was looking at a house for sale, and it had a large detached shop without gutters.

A combination of no gutters, and wood siding, maybe other unseen issues...that building was possibly one strong gust of wind away from collapsing due to a rot line. It didn't look "that bad" from the exterior, but on the interior it was straight ugliness. A number of the 4x6s framing the side walls were rotted completely through. The roof peak also had a low spot in the center ofthe building.

It was a nice piece of land, but the shop along with the house having a whole other set of issues (most or all caused by being inhabited by an elderly woman in a wheelchair, who didn't have a family or any money, so a lot of forgotten basic maintenance items snowballed into bigger problems).

I had no problem walking away from that one.

 

[Aberdale]

A combination of no gutters, and wood siding, maybe other unseen issues...that building was possibly one strong gust of wind away from collapsing due to a rot line. It didn't look "that bad" from the exterior, but on the interior it was straight ugliness. A number of the 4x6s framing the side walls were rotted completely through. The roof peak also had a low spot in the center ofthe building.

From the description, I would have a hard time believing that the condition of the building was caused by no gutters. Obviously I have not seen it personally, but I suspect there were other causes.

 

[stm317]

1ft eaves with 6 inch seamless gutters/downspouts here. I buried the downspouts (6 inch PVC) and routed the water at least 10 feet away from the building. I'll be putting a border of rock around the building this year too in order to reduce erosion and keep dirt from splashing back onto the building.

 

[rburke65]

I could not get a build permit with out first getting a Down Spout Permit. Sanitation Dept. and/or Soil and Water Conservation Dept. want to know where the water coming off my roof was going to go. It either had to go to a stream, a pond, to the drainage ditch by the road.....it cannot go to the ground!???? Otherwise I was required to dig a dry well and catch all the rain water. I have 5.3 acres and I have to dig a dry well? Was told this was because of new business and housing developments just dumping water and causing potential flooding. So, as we were trenching the drain pipe, and before we dug the well, the inspector showed, said forget the well, gave me the "Approved" sticker. I still had to have the gutters and down spouts. And no, if properly installed, the snow won't rip off the gutters.

 

[johninct]

I had them put on mine and the gutter company did a bad job, dented the roofing metal and had leaks. Unless you have to stop water for a specific reason, I say no.

 

[Buckgnarly]

Syracuse gets the same if not worse snow than us, no one up here has gutters on anything.... well, maybe for a Winter or two they do, but nothing holds up to the snow we get.

I would put some stone down on the ground like was said earlier, but don't bother with gutters.

 

[metschers]

I also have 1 foot eaves and had 5-in guttering. I incorporated the downspouts into the french drain that is buried around the perimeter of the shop. I though about having snow guards installed , but haven't yet. (It's been about 4 years now).
I've driven around and checked out a lot of buildings. No one uses them unless the building is commercial per code.
It ran about $600 for 96' and 4-12' downspouts. No regrets or wash outs.


Cheers

 

[mrobins297aaa]

I don't have them, I have good drainage away from the building and I don't have any doors on the eve sides of the building

 

[bcradio]

$500 in gutters is cheap insurance. Especially when the building was free, that leaves a lot of funds for gutters. lol

Insurance for what? Gutters are not needed and many many many people do not have them and have no problems at all.

 

[nes999]

I dont have gutters but I do have a product called rain handlers. My neighbor suggested them because he has them on his barn. Its breaks up the water stream and almost turns the water into a mist. The best part is nothing gets hung up in them so no cleaning.

I also like they are not an eye sore. My neighbors barn is on the property line and I never noticed them.

They are available at home depot but much cheaper online.

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[matt_i]

I had Allied Building Materials (a roofing and siding supply yard) roll my gutters. I debated on getting a 40' seamless length but was not sure how I'd transport it the ~6 miles home. Instead I put a joint at the center which I can see but wasn't a bad choice.

If snow was ripping them off I'd double up on the hangers. I wouldn't even bother putting anything in that didn't have a screw as the fastener.