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nuklbstr83

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we have a thread about our new tool purchases... what about one for tools we have purchased and they turned out to be junk. we can make sure no one else buys the same ****.

I recently bought the Dewalt DCR015 12V/20V MAX Worksite Charger Radio, and it is not worth the money ($180). I bought it to bring to job sites; it has terrible reception for radio and on MAX volume it is still pretty tame. it has 2 outlets for 120Vac, usb, aux. no bluetooth.
 
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Ryobi makes a lot of neat little sets of drill/driver tools. They are all garbage. You get a hundred tools in the set and not one of them is worth a nickel. Makita, while better, is not very good either, especially the driver bits. I have found that Milwaukee make the best driver bits from the brands you can get at the big stores like Home Depot and Lowe's, but by far, if you use driver bits regularly, the best money spent is on Wiha. They are way cheaper in the long run.
 

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I personally wont buy another rigid cordless tool, the impact driver I got was a piece of poop out of the box. It got hot as hell under any sort of work and then burned up 6 days after home depots 90 day return policy. One of the batteries also stopped charging. They found a technicality to not warranty the tools, apparently I didnt register them properly.
 

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I personally wont buy another rigid cordless tool, the impact driver I got was a piece of poop out of the box. It got hot as hell under any sort of work and then burned up 6 days after home depots 90 day return policy. One of the batteries also stopped charging. They found a technicality to not warranty the tools, apparently I didnt register them properly.


IMHO

ridgid's limetime warranty has too many hoops to jump through, i've heard directly from a ridgid warranty center, that ridgid's warranty is one of the most difficult to deal with.

thats one of the reasons i went with milwaukee, especially for the abuse that i put my stuff through in my service truck.
i figure if i get 5 years out of an abused cordless tool, it doesnt owe me anything, and it served it's purpose.
as fast as technology changes, i figure there will be something even better by then. :bounce:


:beer:
 

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I personally wont buy another rigid cordless tool, the impact driver I got was a piece of poop out of the box. It got hot as hell under any sort of work and then burned up 6 days after home depots 90 day return policy. One of the batteries also stopped charging. They found a technicality to not warranty the tools, apparently I didnt register them properly.

+1

No more Rigid for me.
The warranty is nothing more than smoke and mirrors and the tool/battery quality isn't any better than Ryobi, IMO.
 

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Chinese tools in general. I'd MUCH rather buy an older, corded Milwaukee tool than ANY new Chinee tool. Same with hand tools. I despise Chinese metallurgy. I once bought a pair of Chinese rear wheel cylinders for my Dodge/Cummins truck. I go to a great, old-line auto parts store, one that has an attached machine shop and the original owners sons still run the place. They had two types of wheel cylinders. (1)--U.S.A. made and $38 each. (2) Chinese and $9 each. I bought the Chinese, and when I was installing one of them the cast iron broke like a soda cracker. Lesson learned. I've also had Chinese bolts break waaaaay too easily. And Chinese nails where every 5th one either bends driving it, or the head pops off. We can only hope the same people who are building this **** are also building their aircraft carriers and warplanes.
 

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Kobalt pipe wrenches - slip more often than they grab

Kobalt groove joint pliers - not much bite and the grooves are apparently not undercut like channellocks are cause they jump the groove while in use mashing your fingers and jamming the pliers, the grips also slip off with use.

Harbor Freight tap set - while the threads per inch are not a problem on my set, the depth of the cutting threads are. While chasing threads I can literally wiggle the tap in the hole.

Harbor Freight right angle die pneumatic grinder - had a co-worker buy one, started getting loose almost right away, didn't take long for the gears to completely strip in the head.
 

53chevy5

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Dewalt 20 volt corded/cordless shop vac. Thought it would be the best thing ever, and it would have been if they would have put a little more engineering into the suction part of the vacuum. Everything else about it was great, just no power, they shot themselves in the foot on this one.
 

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Dewalt 20 volt corded/cordless shop vac. Thought it would be the best thing ever, and it would have been if they would have put a little more engineering into the suction part of the vacuum. Everything else about it was great, just no power, they shot themselves in the foot on this one.
Interesting, I loved mine. I have the Milwaukee now and though it does have a slight edge in suction, I miss the Dewalt. Maybe you're expecting too much from a cordless vac or perhaps have a blockage or defect.
That being said, I'm not a Dewalt fan. Stay away from any Dewalt consumables, blades, bits, OMT accessories, etc. All garbage in my experience.

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Dewalt 20 volt corded/cordless shop vac. Thought it would be the best thing ever, and it would have been if they would have put a little more engineering into the suction part of the vacuum. Everything else about it was great, just no power, they shot themselves in the foot on this one.

:( I literally just borrowed my brother's tonight to try out.

I think my blue point angle drill was a waste of money. Things SCREAMS and i've accidentally engaged reverse several times while using it.
 

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Cordless Brushed Angle Grinders. Only last for 5 minutes. Even with lithium batteries they don't last for more than a few minutes.
Also please don't list Harbor Freight tools, there is a separate thread for that.
 

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Harbor Freight right angle die pneumatic grinder - had a co-worker buy one, started getting loose almost right away, didn't take long for the gears to completely strip in the head.


I've had at least a dozen of them. I used to work with a bunch of thieves but was right across the street from hf. About half have been like that. Some of the others worked for a long time. Locktite fixes the problem but now that the store is out of my way I wouldn't buy one.


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Hf pliers. I bought a set to go in the van because things get lost when I'm doing on site work. They rusted so fast and pretty much sucked at their purpose. Cutters didn't cut well long nice flexed and bent and couldn't grip rope if I tried. Cheap but not even worth what they charge.
 

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Harbor freight airsaw. The safety feature to keep it running is a PITA. The Allen screw used to hold the blades in stripped out after changing the blades 3 times. We luckily got it to work to finish cutting a hole in my hood.


Ryan
 

erty67

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Agree with the Kobalt and HF pliers as well as the HF airsaw. Tried them all and they all failed. Also I'll add Blue Hawk hand tools. I purchased a bunch marked down but still feel my money was wasted. Most pieces have been poor quality and some broke with little use.

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+1

No more Rigid for me.
The warranty is nothing more than smoke and mirrors and the tool/battery quality isn't any better than Ryobi, IMO.


I have tons of the 18v Ryobi lineup and did just get into a few of the Rigid 18v tools this year. I like Rigid USED and thus cheap. I haven't and probably won't ever buy any new. Used and cheap, the warranty does not apply and they are like any other brand of tool then. Ridid is OK, they are made a little higher quality or power than Ryobi, but ARE made by TTI just like Ryobi AND Milwaukee. I like a few of my Ryobi better than the same Rigid! Just each tool on its own merits! But mostly, the Rigid are better, but typically heavier and more solidly made. Milwaukee is a step up from both, but only matters for some tools. You can get lots of drilling done with a Black and Decker cordless drill just fine. - Paul
 

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Ryobi makes a lot of neat little sets of drill/driver tools. They are all garbage. You get a hundred tools in the set and not one of them is worth a nickel. Makita, while better, is not very good either, especially the driver bits. I have found that Milwaukee make the best driver bits from the brands you can get at the big stores like Home Depot and Lowe's, but by far, if you use driver bits regularly, the best money spent is on Wiha. They are way cheaper in the long run.

I've not had problems with the Ryobi sets and consider them good deals. I have had Makita fall apart on me and fail. Milwaukee is ok, Wiha is awesome of course. I've found the newer Dewalt sets to be VERY VERY GOOD and easily trump Milwaukee or Makita. Another sleeper are the impact bits through Lowes, Kobalt sets. These are very very good too, I've found as good as Milwaukee. The Milwaukee sets are made by TTI, who also makes the Ryobi and the Rigid sets, so saying one is trash and the other treasure is rather silly. They are all in the same bucket, but the Rigid or Milwaukee may have slightly better features or set contents. I like Dewalt or Kobalt better than all of those. - Paul
 

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The only Ryobi tool I ever bought was a suitcase planer and it was the NOISIEST planer I've ever used. Since then I have observed that most of Ryobi's corded tools are too loud
 

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Never and I repeat never buy the following item from sears just pure dog ****!

Craftsman Adjustable Mechanics seat Model # 51164

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-adju...p-00951164000P?prdNo=2&blockNo=2&blockType=G2

Darn thing fails at the same weld spot every time and it must be thrown away.

I don't dispute your experience. I bought one about 4 years when it was marked down to $15 and it has been one of the best I have owned. I detail cars (well not so much now that I'm retired) and use it to detail the lower body panels and wheels & tires and wheel wells. It moves up and down as desired and rolls great.
 

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Snap on soft grip punch and chisel set (PPCSG710). I think snap on went for cheese instead of steel as the material to make these from. Changed to a Facom soft grip set now and they are a completely different animal.

Rich
 

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3/8 air ratchet. Got a nice IR one about twenty years ago. Rarely use it except for maybe a water pump or oil pan bolts or an application where you have a bunch of the same size fasteners to run down. Quality tool, just doesn't develop a lot of torque. HF would probably fit my needs if I didn't already have the IR.
 

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Tekton 16-piece precision screwdriver set #2987. Absolute junk, from the case (which droops when you pick it up) to the handles flaking chrome everywhere to the driver tips which are made of steel that's very soft. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NPZ3J0 I ended up springing for a Wiha set...could not be happier!

Sorry to hear about the trouble with that set. It is a pretty basic set, that Wiha set isn't even in the same realm. Glad you got something you like.
 

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Sorry to hear about the trouble with that set. It is a pretty basic set, that Wiha set isn't even in the same realm. Glad you got something you like.

They resembled the old Archer set that Radio Shack used to sell, which were made in Japan and quite good, so I thought I would take a chance. Live and learn.
 

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Never and I repeat never buy the following item from sears just pure dog ****!

Craftsman Adjustable Mechanics seat Model # 51164

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-adju...p-00951164000P?prdNo=2&blockNo=2&blockType=G2

Darn thing fails at the same weld spot every time and it must be thrown away.

Maybe just the newer ones? I've had mine for over 10 years and its been great. My driveway was pitted and cracked, so it beat the hell out of the shells rolling it around. Still going strong.
 

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Just thought of another. The HF orange soldering gun. That is the biggest POS ever. The tips failed first. And you can't buy replacements. Then soon after the gun itself started smoking and stopped working. Yes it was very cheap but not even worth that. The whole thing lasted like a week. Spend a couple more dollars and get the craftsman or Weller.
 

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Never and I repeat never buy the following item from sears just pure dog ****!

Craftsman Adjustable Mechanics seat Model # 51164

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-adju...p-00951164000P?prdNo=2&blockNo=2&blockType=G2

Darn thing fails at the same weld spot every time and it must be thrown away.
I have had great luck from the one I bought 3 years ago. If it can hold up to my big ***, it has to be pretty good. It doesn't feel reassuringly well built, but it hasn't broken yet.

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I have the v18 vacuum , impact wrench and rotary hammer. Got a older made in Europe Milwaukee drill driver that came with Nicads. The Nicads and v18 lithium power the same tools. The old Nicads are better than the junk v18 batteries. The v18 tools are great.
 
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