Do the Hyperlite Hero lights hang cockeyed?

[SouthernIllinois]

I have about decided on Hyperlite's Hero line of lights for a 42X60 building, but while doing some research I came across a YouTube review where the guy mentioned they hung off-kilter.

Can any of you guys that have them comment?

Looking at them it seems like the cord to the outlet is what was pulling his ****-eyed. Seems like you could cut the cord shorter, to length and put a new plug on it to help minimize that.

 

[BLUE72CAMARO]

I can confirm that they do hang slightly skewed. I put a dozen of the 150 watts in my back shed this summer.


Here is a pic of one of mine installed from my loft to show how I did all this. You can see it is ever so slightly titlted but it makes no difference what so ever in the performance of the light and you cant tell from the floor. I dont think this is due to the cord though but more in the hook design or the light being out of balance vs the center point slightly. Honestly I think I remember being pretty certain it was the hook design but that was 6 months ago.



Edit: I just noticed your screen name what part of southern IL are you located? I am about 50 minutes North East of STL.

 

[SouthernIllinois]

I can confirm that they do hang slightly skewed. I put a dozen of the 150 watts in my back shed this summer.


Here is a pic of one of mine installed from my loft to show how I did all this. You can see it is ever so slightly titlted but it makes no difference what so ever in the performance of the light and you cant tell from the floor. I dont think this is due to the cord though but more in the hook design or the light being out of balance vs the center point slightly. Honestly I think I remember being pretty certain it was the hook design but that was 6 months ago.



Edit: I just noticed your screen name what part of southern IL are you located? I am about 50 minutes North East of STL.

Thanks, I appreciate the info and pictures.
My plan was to put up 100W Hero's up on a relatively low, finished in white metal ceiling.
I think the ****-eyedness of them would drive me nuts.
As much as I like them, that may be a breaking factor.

May go back to looking at 8' LED strip, surface mount, lights. If nothing else, those won't require an outlet per.

 

[BLUE72CAMARO]

I dont know how low your talking but ufo's in general arent good for lower ceilings as there light is pretty focused. Also a white ceiling wont make a huge difference with them as they put out 0 light upward. Check out the sidewalls on my shed and you can see what I mean the top couple foot of them are pretty dark and the lights are only 6' away.

Again the **** eyed is probably only a couple degrees and you cant even begin to tell from the ground on my 13' high lights. But I admit it took me a little bit to ignore it during the install.

 

[eejack]

It is easy enough to balance them with small weights. Last time I had to deal with a customer who was upset over a similar light being a touch off a couple of wire nuts did the trick. I suspect tire weights would work better.

 

[SouthernIllinois]

I dont know how low your talking but ufo's in general arent good for lower ceilings as there light is pretty focused. Also a white ceiling wont make a huge difference with them as they put out 0 light upward. Check out the sidewalls on my shed and you can see what I mean the top couple foot of them are pretty dark and the lights are only 6' away.

Again the **** eyed is probably only a couple degrees and you cant even begin to tell from the ground on my 13' high lights. But I admit it took me a little bit to ignore it during the install.

My ceiling will be about 10' 6"

It is easy enough to balance them with small weights. Last time I had to deal with a customer who was upset over a similar light being a touch off a couple of wire nuts did the trick. I suspect tire weights would work better.

Pure genius!!
I just retired and my side hustle was commercial fishing / Charter boat Captain.
I have a ton of fishing weights which would be ideal for that - a few sinkers and some super glue

Thanks!

 

[dave*99]

My ceiling will be about 10' 6"

LED strips or tubes will be a better option for even light at that height. UFO's need to be up higher than that.

 

[Sumboodie]

LED strips or tubes will be a better option for even light at that height. UFO's need to be up higher than that.

They usually spec at least 14-16ft ceiling it seems.

 

[WillyBoy]

Is the stiffness of the cord pulling the fixture off vertical? Some of the plastic based cords are really stiff and may not let the fixture hang freely. Maybe some twisting on the cord would do it.

 

[BLUE72CAMARO]

Is the stiffness of the cord pulling the fixture off vertical? Some of the plastic based cords are really stiff and may not let the fixture hang freely. Maybe some twisting on the cord would do it.

No, as you can see in my install I have the cord zip ******* even pulling it up and down the lights wanted to hang slightly crooked. The problem with these is in the hook design, I dont have a good picture to explain but the center of the hook is not above the center of the threaded hole/stud that they attach with. While not dimensionally correct I drew the example below real quick to show what I am talking about. Either way, yes you could balance them out with weights if need be. Stick on tire weights would be the ideal solution I think. I also agree with others that I would not put these in 10' building. That is what my shop is and these do not spread light near enough at that height, I think if you have somebody do layouts you will end up with a lot of lights at tight spacing to have even light.

 

[SouthernIllinois]

LED strips or tubes will be a better option for even light at that height. UFO's need to be up higher than that.

May go that way any way. Cheaper anyway
FWIW, Hyperlite recommended the 100W Hero lights based on that 10' 6" ceiling height.

They usually spec at least 14-16ft ceiling it seems.

Hyperlite recommended the 100W Hero lights based on that 10' 6" ceiling height.





This is my Plan "B" - on both the ceiling and on the perimeter walls

 

[dave*99]

How much variation is in the numbers in this chart, it's not readable in you post. This will show how even/uneven the light will be.

 

[SouthernIllinois]

How much variation is in the numbers in this chart, it's not readable in you post. This will show how even/uneven the light will be.

IDK - What they sent me was unreadable as well

 

[dave*99]

For plan B, take a look at frosted tubes. Easier on the eyes. I love a lot of light. I hate harsh glaring light and hot spot fixtures.

 

[dave*99]

IDK - What they sent me was unreadable as well

I used the lighting calculator on the Lithonia website. I designed for 50fc at the work plane. When done I measured the light and it was 53fc at the work plane.

Here is the link to my project. You can select any fixture they make or put in the output specs of any fixture you want.

Lighting for 24x28 shop

So I think I'm off to a rocky start..... I've been reading the best light fixture ever thread for a long time. And I still think I need some help. The basics: Woodshop above garage. Under construction. I have some woodworking machinery to go in the shop. It will have drywall finished...

www.garagejournal.com

 

[SouthernIllinois]

I used the lighting calculator on the Lithonia website. I designed for 50fc at the work plane. When done I measured the light and it was 53fc at the work plane.

Here is the link to my project. You can select any fixture they make or put in the output specs of any fixture you want.

Lighting for 24x28 shop

So I think I'm off to a rocky start..... I've been reading the best light fixture ever thread for a long time. And I still think I need some help. The basics: Woodshop above garage. Under construction. I have some woodworking machinery to go in the shop. It will have drywall finished...

www.garagejournal.com

Thank you

 

[cybrdyke]

People often ask about the differences between quality fixtures and the stuff they sell on Amazon....
CD

 

[BlindViper]

I have 10 of the hyperlite 150watt lights in my shop. If you can look up and tell they are a skew you have accomplished something. They are so bright you are instantly punished for trying to look at them.

 

[cccoltsicehockey]

If you are worried about them hanging skewed you could use these. This is how I plan to wire mine up. My will be mounted from a flopped ceiling so just need to figure out a swivel now for the other end up the pipe.

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[BlindViper]

If you are worried about them hanging skewed you could use these. This is how I plan to wire mine up. My will be mounted from a flopped ceiling so just need to figure out a swivel now for the other end up the pipe.

RUN BISON Black Lifting-Bracket for LED UFO High Bay Light, Cold-Rolled Sheet LED UFO Lights Accessories LJC-LIFTING-BRACKET - The Home Depot

Bring the best and ultimate addition to your electrical application by selecting this RUN BISON Black LiftingBracket for LED UFO High Bay Light ColdRolled Sheet LED UFO Lights Accessories.

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square or round box?

https://www.gordonelectricsupply.com/p/Garvin-Sc-75-4Sq-Swivel-Fix-Hanger/6252595?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA5L2tBhBTEiwAdSxJXw1JhChxVFf_tixAYTGgMObPpQhPk4VyeAQoFrD-oUsSW_RmxxtIwRoCRncQAvD_BwE

https://www.gordonelectricsupply.com/p/Garvin-Sc-75R-4Rd-Swivel-Fix-Hanger/6252597?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA5L2tBhBTEiwAdSxJX8V9ngWotqmZ30S2Bn4M9ZCrGX-922-bbOymeFZ5Pn5diC5h1Mk3RBoC-T0QAvD_BwE

 

[cccoltsicehockey]

square or round box?

https://www.gordonelectricsupply.com/p/Garvin-Sc-75-4Sq-Swivel-Fix-Hanger/6252595?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA5L2tBhBTEiwAdSxJXw1JhChxVFf_tixAYTGgMObPpQhPk4VyeAQoFrD-oUsSW_RmxxtIwRoCRncQAvD_BwE

https://www.gordonelectricsupply.com/p/Garvin-Sc-75R-4Rd-Swivel-Fix-Hanger/6252597?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA5L2tBhBTEiwAdSxJX8V9ngWotqmZ30S2Bn4M9ZCrGX-922-bbOymeFZ5Pn5diC5h1Mk3RBoC-T0QAvD_BwE

Appreciate these but unfortunately a data sheet on them seems to say they can only do 20 degrees from vertical. My roof is a 12/12 pitch. Half debating on maybe buying some sloped ceiling ceiling fan mounts.

 

[BlindViper]

Appreciate these but unfortunately a data sheet on them seems to say they can only do 20 degrees from vertical. My roof is a 12/12 pitch. Half debating on maybe buying some sloped ceiling ceiling fan mounts.

You could make some wood/mdf sloped pieces. With a 12/12 pitch you just need some 45deg blocks. You could also hang the lights from 1/8" steel cable. They will naturally hang plumb.

 

[cccoltsicehockey]

You could make some wood/mdf sloped pieces. With a 12/12 pitch you just need some 45deg blocks. You could also hang the lights from 1/8" steel cable. They will naturally hang plumb.

Blocking them might be the answer. I am worried about them swaying with a 84in fan in the middle of the space. Although, they will be mounted 3-4ft away from that.

 

[alfredeneuman]

I just retired and my side hustle was commercial fishing / Charter boat Captain.
I have a ton of fishing weights which would be ideal for that - a few sinkers and some super glue

I've used pebbles inside of sandwich bags (duct taped to the inside of the fixture) to accomplish the same thing.

 

[Reata210]

I have 11 foot ceiling and installed 6 100 watt Hyperlites with diffusers. The light output is amazing and with my ceiling height the light was spread out making for very even output. The diffusers also minimize any shadowing. My shop is now very well lit. Much brighter than any strip light would provide. Very happy, time will tell on longevity.

 

[Dr_Pippin]

I have 11 foot ceiling and installed 6 100 watt Hyperlites with diffusers. The light output is amazing and with my ceiling height the light was spread out making for very even output. The diffusers also minimize any shadowing. My shop is now very well lit. Much brighter than any strip light would provide. Very happy, time will tell on longevity.

I wish those diffusers weren't so expensive, I'd like to get some for my lights.

 

[Reata210]

I wish those diffusers weren't so expensive, I'd like to get some for my lights.

I agree, initially did not have them but bit the bullet. Made a huge difference. I couldn’t be more happy with the lighting.

 

[cccoltsicehockey]

Wanted to come back and add some info to this thread on another mounting solution vs the hook that these lights come with.

I went and used the mount I had posted earlier here for the top of the lights. It is for 1in threaded rod which is also commonly used for most ceiling fans.

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After much searching, I narrowed it down to this ceiling fan mount. The main reason for this is most companies have started selling adapter pieces that use half the pieces still that come with your fan purchase. This one has almost everything. You still need to get the pin that slots into the ball for the dowrod as that is the only piece they expect you to use from the original kit. Fortunately, a couple of cut up M6 bolts solves this problem.

Slope adapter kit

Amazon.com

Down rod

Amazon.com

Everything put together and mounted

 

[Dr_Pippin]

Really nice. Creative solution to your use case. Looks fantastic.